awful programming: feature flags and suffering

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outhole surfer: Mar 18, 2003

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

should i name my new library achilles or dionysus

diogenes. always diogenes.

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# ? Apr 23, 2024 11:40

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

should i name my new library achilles or dionysus

diabetes

# ? May 22, 2022 07:42

mystes: May 31, 2006

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

should i name my new library achilles or dionysus

Achilles and make sure it has a some sort of fundamental design flaw that you refuse to fix

# ? May 22, 2022 15:35

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

MrMoo posted:

There's a Vogue photoshoot at NYSE or something, and the premise is utterly

My tech for several days in a row has been recording screen caps of hours of live output, sending off to some random company that has been distorting the content, then previewing on the floor for the big event.

There is a big catastrophe and only models survived, ...

just starting if anyone remotely cares:

https://www.balenciaga.com/en-us

# ? May 22, 2022 16:57

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

quote:

Jitter started
Any idea what?

Boomers are awesome.

# ? May 22, 2022 17:15

Truman Peyote: Oct 11, 2006

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

should i name my new library achilles or dionysus

Dionysus, and only write it at the ballmer peak

# ? May 22, 2022 18:00

Pythagoras a trois: Feb 19, 2004; I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

Name it Hades

# ? May 22, 2022 18:18

Pythagoras a trois: Feb 19, 2004; I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

As in Hades nuts ain't suckin themselves

# ? May 22, 2022 18:18

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

Cassandra because you know it's gonna be bad and you can't do anything about it

# ? May 22, 2022 18:25

mystes: May 31, 2006

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

Cassandra because you know it's gonna be bad and you can't do anything about it

Taken and it met the expected fate for an apache foundation project

# ? May 22, 2022 18:35

DaTroof: Nov 16, 2000; CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

sisyphus because it will inevitably get stuck in an infinite loop

# ? May 22, 2022 18:36

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

mystes posted:

Taken and it met the expected fate for an apache foundation project

i assume given the way c* worms its way into organizations that :thejoke:

# ? May 22, 2022 18:36

Pythagoras a trois: Feb 19, 2004; I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

DaTroof posted:

sisyphus because it will inevitably get stuck in an infinite loop

No no no, name it syphilis and add it to the dependencies but don't tell anybody

# ? May 22, 2022 18:46

sb hermit: Dec 13, 2016

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

Cassandra because you know it's gonna be bad and you can't do anything about it

# ? May 22, 2022 20:23

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

that prolly was why the actual cassandra db was named that, wasnt it

# ? May 22, 2022 20:27

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

nudgenudgetilt posted:

diogenes. always diogenes.

gonna name the protocol classifier in my router OS diogenes

behold! a packet!

# ? May 23, 2022 12:56

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

I am currently embarked on a project to identify how hard it would be to port an old abandoned Python 2 project to Python 3. It has something resembling a test suite.

README posted:

This directory contains a gzipped PostScript file, master.ps.gz, obtained by printing to a file a part of the SlashDot.org website from the Galeon web browser on July 2nd 2004.

Oh dear.

# ? May 24, 2022 10:40

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

# ? May 24, 2022 10:58

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

# ? May 24, 2022 11:02

champagne posting: Apr 5, 2006; YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Antigravitas posted:

I am currently embarked on a project to identify how hard it would be to port an old abandoned Python 2 project to Python 3. It has something resembling a test suite.

Oh dear.

Does it say anything to the effect of "why"?

# ? May 24, 2022 11:08

Sagacity: May 2, 2003; Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

champagne posting posted:

Does it say anything to the effect of "why"?

"Why not?

# ? May 24, 2022 11:19

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

The why is fine. It's a library for calculating pages and ink coverage of print jobs, so using a well-known print file as its reference it can test the implementations of a myriad of horrid printer languages.

But because it's printer languages, everything else is extremely not fine. The fact that some of them are turing complete is the least of its problems.

I am going to jettison almost everything in this project, but I drew the shortest straw in the universe that led me to this hell�

# ? May 24, 2022 11:21

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

code:

"""This modules implements a page counter for Structured Fax documents."""

mscrap.py

Python code:

"""This module implements a page counter for Microsoft Word (r) (tm) (c) (etc...) documents"""

class Parser(pdlparser.PDLParser) :
    """A parser for that MS crap thing."""
    format = "Microsoft lovely"

I can relate, lmao. Only file with swearing in it.

Antigravitas fucked around with this message at 11:29 on May 24, 2022

# ? May 24, 2022 11:23

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

Antigravitas posted:

lmao at the lone comment

# ? May 24, 2022 11:28

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"The BBC are reporting that despite 'the very best deal possible,' a failure to agree terms between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation has meant that we will not being seeing TV's most evil villains in the new series, starring Christopher Eccleston and Billy Piper."

concerning news

# ? May 24, 2022 11:51

leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

josh04 posted:

"The BBC are reporting that despite 'the very best deal possible,' a failure to agree terms between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation has meant that we will not being seeing TV's most evil villains in the new series, starring Christopher Eccleston and Billy Piper."

concerning news

You _are_ talking about terrible programming, so I'm not sure if you're posting in the thread you thought you were.

# ? May 24, 2022 13:30

Pythagoras a trois: Feb 19, 2004; I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

Antigravitas posted:

The why is fine. It's a library for calculating pages and ink coverage of print jobs, so using a well-known print file as its reference it can test the implementations of a myriad of horrid printer languages.

But because it's printer languages, everything else is extremely not fine. The fact that some of them are turing complete is the least of its problems.

I am going to jettison almost everything in this project, but I drew the shortest straw in the universe that led me to this hell�

I didn't expect the zipfile to be redeemed in the second act drat

# ? May 24, 2022 15:07

Osmosisch: Sep 9, 2007; I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."; Grimey Drawer

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

lmao at the lone comment

I mean, where's the lie

# ? May 25, 2022 07:26

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

goddamn segfault with no stacktrace

((

# ? May 25, 2022 10:14

Armitag3: Mar 15, 2020; Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.

Carthag Tuek posted:

goddamn segfault with no stacktrace ((

segfault but no one to segblame

# ? May 25, 2022 10:43

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

it's nobodies segfault but your own

# ? May 25, 2022 12:24

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

segma balls

# ? May 25, 2022 15:42

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

well im sure core dumps were properly configured, right?

# ? May 25, 2022 18:45

mystes: May 31, 2006

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

it's nobodies segfault but your own

# ? May 25, 2022 18:45

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

god these vendor docs loving suck and their engineering team are walled behind 3 layers of people so everything is routed back through emails so a question of 'ok so how are you integrating with Docusign? Which of the Auth methods is it? Why do you want to be able to provision users instead of impersonating' gets an answer 2 days later of 'we use Oauth 1.0' which is deprecated by Docusign...

also docusign (whose docs are pretty bad but at least detailed) have 4 different OAuth methods and integration types and the use case you describe isn't one of them

# ? Jun 1, 2022 22:47

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

trying to shore up our oss license compliance from nothing and dear god how the gently caress does anyone do this in a modern software ecosystem

even with an automated tool to assist it's a crapshoot cause golang's module dependency introspection is so inscrutable. why the gently caress is there a "go mod why <fartlib>" command that just repeatedly tells you "actually, this library is unnecessary!" despite something in the toolchain clearly having a reason to shove poo poo into go.mod as indirect

wasted a couple hours trying to figure out how we'd apparently included a gpl3 lib. as best i can tell someone used "go get" to install a tool for cli use while in their project directory, which of course added it to the project go.mod, and pushed because their repo has no linter test to see if you've run tidy or not. this library wormed itself into the infinity vendored thing clusterfuck in docker/docker and then into our go.mod because our test suite uses docker golang calls to run poo poo. i still can't find a tool to confirm that there's definitely no other reason for an indirect dep, and while it seems unlikely it's a bit iffy since go mod graph will still look at the automatically added mod entry and say "actually, your app includes this module directly!"

i dont feel too bad though, between some of the no-license deps are there because libs authored by google (who i'd sorta expect to have the resources to do compliance right) and because the immediate goal of providing a licenses.txt that meets MPL requirements for the stuff we do use is still met--ain't no rule that says you can't also just include a bunch of other random poo poo that isn't actually linked in the end product!

# ? Jun 3, 2022 03:48

leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

trying to shore up our oss license compliance from nothing and dear god how the gently caress does anyone do this in a modern software ecosystem

even with an automated tool to assist it's a crapshoot cause golang's module dependency introspection is so inscrutable. why the gently caress is there a "go mod why <fartlib>" command that just repeatedly tells you "actually, this library is unnecessary!" despite something in the toolchain clearly having a reason to shove poo poo into go.mod as indirect

wasted a couple hours trying to figure out how we'd apparently included a gpl3 lib. as best i can tell someone used "go get" to install a tool for cli use while in their project directory, which of course added it to the project go.mod, and pushed because their repo has no linter test to see if you've run tidy or not. this library wormed itself into the infinity vendored thing clusterfuck in docker/docker and then into our go.mod because our test suite uses docker golang calls to run poo poo. i still can't find a tool to confirm that there's definitely no other reason for an indirect dep, and while it seems unlikely it's a bit iffy since go mod graph will still look at the automatically added mod entry and say "actually, your app includes this module directly!"

i dont feel too bad though, between some of the no-license deps are there because libs authored by google (who i'd sorta expect to have the resources to do compliance right) and because the immediate goal of providing a licenses.txt that meets MPL requirements for the stuff we do use is still met--ain't no rule that says you can't also just include a bunch of other random poo poo that isn't actually linked in the end product!

Have you confirmed your beliefs with your legal team?

# ? Jun 3, 2022 05:08

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

no luck with git blame go.mod ?

also pro tip. just remove it and see if stuff breaks

# ? Jun 3, 2022 05:37

Truman Peyote: Oct 11, 2006

go.mod and go.sum are just placebos, nothing you do in there actually affects anything

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Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

go get

a job working in a less lovely ecosystem

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