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Man never read gray forums. was catching up on the coding horror coc thread and it's just idiots whining about codes of conduct like not yelling racial slurs on a mailing list killed their mom
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i actually didn't think it was that bad, the only person suggesting that they were bad is coc's resident idiot savant who has a knack for being completely wrong literally every time they post i guess there were a bunch of people engaging with him though
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Jabor posted:i actually didn't think it was that bad, the only person suggesting that they were bad is coc's resident idiot savant who has a knack for being completely wrong literally every time they post quark jets seemed pretty mad about them too and a bunch of other people seemed to agree that things like "tweeted inappropriate things in an outside but public forum " weren't damaging offenses. there was a whole spectrum of excusing abusive and toxic people in there
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i was gonna say well what does inappropriate mean, some things are appropriate for twitter but not the workplace eg man i just farted and it smells so bad lol but thats not what inappropriate means :/
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the people gettin hosed up over twitter, they already know in the real world, if they're in a restaurant and wanna drop some n-bomb bullshit, they look over their shoulder first they just haven't learned to do the same thing on twitter, where 100% always someone is over their shoulder gently caress em you don't get to say "i'm not the type of person to do this" after you publicly do it
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Nov 3, 2018 03:43
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hailthefish posted:everything is bad i actually own, i just come by this thread cause im slumming it, like a 30-something visiting baltimore and dropping wire references all the time
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i actually own, i just come by this thread cause im slumming it, like a 30-something visiting baltimore and dropping wire references all the time drive to inner harbor, eat lunch at bubba gump shrimp co, high tail it out of there. "phew that was close"
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inner harbor loving sucks and gently caress all those sunglasses stands there because lol
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my favorite part about the MTA is listening to music on my phone through the speaker, and being able to piss in a moving cart with zero judgement
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:my favorite part about the MTA is listening to music on my phone through the speaker, and being able to piss in a moving cart with zero judgement I liked the mta when I visited but my comparison was the cab I took from the airport and holy poo poo was that a ride
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i take the train every time downtown but when i leave baltimore im always super hungover and late so i take an uber back to the airport because everything is closed on memorial day
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terrible programmer nested mvc mess update : despite the hangover I had on Friday I got the embedding a json serialisation of the object into the view and then deserialising at point of use working and woah I wish i'd thought of this ages ago however I did spend an hour debugging what I thought was some weird caching issue that turned out to be that I forgot to remove an element before adding a new one so was just stacking up repeat elements in the background and opening the same one over and over. felt pretty dumb after finding that tbh. Also funnily enough, json.net has the same issue I had with mvc when 8 started which is that it flips its poo poo if you try to instance an interact and then has the exact same solution which is to set a type property on the model, include it in your view and then cast to it and bind time, so its good to know that is at least a standard issue fudge.
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Nov 3, 2018 23:16
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jit bull transpile posted:Man never read gray forums. was catching up on the coding horror coc thread and it's just idiots whining about codes of conduct like not yelling racial slurs on a mailing list killed their mom it's very eye roll inducing to hear from people about how codes of conduct are bad when they have no experience moderating a high-traffic open source project.
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jit bull transpile posted:Man never read gray forums. was catching up on the coding horror coc thread and it's just idiots whining about codes of conduct like not yelling racial slurs on a mailing list killed their mom man, i was trying to read gbs yesterday and it was also full of unfunny racists and people making fun of the mentally ill.
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brap posted:it's very eye roll inducing to hear from people about how codes of conduct are bad when they have no experience moderating a high-traffic open source project. does the volume of garbage decrease when such a project adds a code of conduct? or do you mean you can point people at the coc and kick/ban instead of getting dragged into a ten round argument about how someone didn’t technically violate the rules because 
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pokeyman posted:does the volume of garbage decrease when such a project adds a code of conduct? or do you mean you can point people at the coc and kick/ban instead of getting dragged into a ten round argument about how someone didn’t technically violate the rules because if you kick/ban people when they complain about having to not be a dick you'll probably have less garbage. and maybe even less software if you're lucky
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akadajet posted:man, i was trying to read gbs yesterday and it was also full of unfunny racists and people making fun of the mentally ill. has gbs quit with fat shaming threads yet? those are the most incredible examples of spiteful projection on the internet
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hot take: gbs is no better than reddit
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jit bull transpile posted:has gbs quit with fat shaming threads yet? those are the most incredible examples of spiteful projection on the internet it's really nothing but the shittiest of poo poo posts now.
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akadajet posted:man, i was trying to read gbs yesterday and it was also full of unfunny racists and people making fun of the mentally ill. wait this is a thing again? loving moderators, what’s the point?
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eschaton posted:wait this is a thing again? i guess when you're competing with reddit
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is this more “we can’t have so many rules because it makes things less funny” “GBS 2.0” bullshit? because come the gently caress on, just kick and ban the racists and misogynists already
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I actually think the current gbs mods are deece, the posters are just dedicated to producing too great a volume of trash to moderate
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be the change you want to see in this world instead of complaining about other people not doing it
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akadajet posted:if you kick/ban people when they complain about having to not be a dick you'll probably have less garbage. this dude gets it i'm not even being slightly ironic
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:be the change you want to see in this world instead of complaining about other people not doing it ya that's dumb if you post good amongst those people they shout slurs and SJW at you until you go away
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:be the change you want to see in this world instead of complaining about other people not doing it I can't ban u tho
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Captain Foo posted:I can't ban u tho lol
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re: coc it’s pretty much about not needing to wring your hands about whether to ban/suspend someone and just say “yep they violated a rule, bye bitch” can’t say it’s less volume of garbage but it’s important to have some kind of process for when people in the community do unacceptable things
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brap posted:re: coc it’s pretty much about not needing to wring your hands about whether to ban/suspend someone and just say “yep they violated a rule, bye bitch” it's also meant to signal to skittish potential contributors that they won't be abused. if a project has clear rules people who might otherwise fear harassment are more likely to make valuable contributions.
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If the OSS projects I run had more contributors, I’d enact a CoC just so the dipshits who always argue against CoCs — and who generally are the hugest rear end in a top hat in any community — go away and never come back. I now see the value of CoCs more in scaring away ‘free speech at all costs’ morons who tend to also all align full alt-right on the political spectrum than I do moderating day to day.
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makes sense re: coc, was just curious as nothing I’m involved with has enough contributors/bullshit for it to matterMononcQc posted:align full alt-right this is so close to a tabs v spaces joke but I can’t quite get there
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pokeyman posted:makes sense re: coc, was just curious as nothing I’m involved with has enough contributors/bullshit for it to matter all man's rights
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jit bull transpile posted:if you post well there's your problem
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real talk though: gbs has become a lot more mild since the last mod switchover, but if you still feel it's too racist/transphobic/anti-gay or whatever, you can start reporting posts you think are bad, open a thread in QCS with your grievances, or contact lowtax via email/twitter through the sticky at the top of each forum. complaining about it in the terrible programmer thread is probably not going to make a difference.
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pokeyman posted:this is so close to a tabs v spaces joke but I can’t quite get there something about an unjustified ruler and marginalized groups
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It's OK to be whitespace? Yeah I got nothing
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Sapozhnik posted:It's OK to be whitespace? Please don't post esr's blog.
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Sapozhnik posted:It's OK to be whitespace? boooo!
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flakeloaf posted:something about an unjustified ruler and marginalized groups Non-ascii orphaned children
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