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eschaton posted:and get this: I’m a guy who has used, implemented, and likes ORMs! absolutely disgusting. how can you live with yourself
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Carthag Tuek posted:a thing i do is obsessively add checklists to my tickets one of the (few) things I liked in Radar 8 was the new “add subtask” feature where one could just type into a text view, and when you press return whatever you typed create a new Radar with the subtask relationship already set and of course any Radar could have subtasks…
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thanks yall for this minimum viable product insights/nonsense, i'm lead on a project with an... interesting budget 8 figures O_O and after having only one high level overview discussion w/ timelines i told an exec i had doubts on one of the first deliverables. this will deffo help me out ![]()
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eschaton posted:one of the (few) things I liked in Radar 8 was the new “add subtask” feature where one could just type into a text view, and when you press return whatever you typed create a new Radar with the subtask relationship already set what can i say i like creating checklists and checking them off ... hard
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I actually loving hate the "as a poster I..." Story poo poo, it's reductive and lets people think that they've written something implementable without understanding anything about what they're actually doing. yhis is how we've ended up with a dev team that know nothing about what the application platform is actually supposed to do and stuff as simple as "replace the file upload component" turns into a multi hour cluster gently caress off meetings because the person that is supposed to be writing the actual implementation steps thinks that "as a user I want to upload files so that I can upload files" is an acceptable way to do this while complaining that my full top level detail of what needs doing and what the outstanding questions theyre supposed to be answering are is "verbose" I got so fed up with this I drew up a wireframe and effectively said "this is what you're supposed be doing, now join the dots" and they still hosed it up
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One MVP story that just reads "As a user I want to do everything a user can do"
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moderately vile program mostly vomit & piss e: masterfully vain project Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Feb 9, 2025 |
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moron via programming
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Dripp Pisso posted:One MVP story that just reads "As a user I want to do everything a user can do" sounds like the slogan on the type of inspirational poster they hang up in elementary schools
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most vexing project
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Main Paineframe posted:next step: combine all the teams into one giant megateam so everyone is in the same standup meeting and can coordinate there i think I’ve said this before but the last “release” i was a part of involved 30-50 person daily meetings (not everyone spoke, though), was nominally agile, crossed four domains of implementation, and had such cumbersome validation processes that the sprint took 12 weeks and ended in a death march over thanksgiving
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Dripp Pisso posted:One MVP story that just reads "As a user I want to do everything a user can do" As a user I want to be all I can be
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whenever I have to do these because someone forces me to I always add "with appropriate permissions because apparently nobody ever considers the need to distinguish read/write from "read this, read that,write this, but don't write that" in a process. this is why today there's stuff like "hey why did that guy touch my stuff he's in a different team?" And the answer is "to us, you are all users"
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Dripp Pisso posted:awful programming: As a user I want to do everything a user can do
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eschaton posted:lots of people seem to avoid doing any sort of detailed work breakdown as part of defining an MVP, which makes no sense because then how do you have any idea what actually makes it M, V, or P? this all sounds like stuff that takes away time from writing code. your coworker shipped five new features while you were doing all this nerd poo poo. also, all of our customers are reporting massive bugs after the release of our latest five new features, so you're going to have to pause your project while everyone investigates them.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:whenever I have to do these because someone forces me to I always add "with appropriate permissions because apparently nobody ever considers the need to distinguish read/write from "read this, read that,write this, but don't write that" in a process. tbf a lot of people do dont that
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user stories are awful. if you need a conops you should write a conops, not try to hide a conops in your requirements.
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if you don't know what you're doing (and you probably don't), user stories can be a good starting point for figuring out what your requirements actually are. and having those user stories to provide context for the requirements can help you check that your proposed solution meets the spirit of the requirements and not just the letter. but if you try to implement something directly from user stories instead of using them to come up with requirements then you're going to have a bad time. and if you're taking your existing clear and well-defined requirements and trying to write them down as user stories then you're just completely loving everything up.
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I/we did such a bad job running a feature requirements planning group that we basically got told to go away and so I told everyone to go away and think about what they should do because you're in my private data hell now and I unironically love this poo poo
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user: as a user I want the least effort prototype that could possibly solve my problem management: hire this user!!!
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You can have everything planned down and the work proceeding well, and you'll still get derailed by the web team telling you at the last minute that they're shutting down a service they developed 3 weeks ago and now you need to pivot immediately to implementing support for the service they're replacing it with instead. Bonus points if you're only informed of this via an off-hand comment while on a seemingly unrelated meeting I did get to call people loving idiots right on their face, so, silver linings and all
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Jabor posted:if you don't know what you're doing (and you probably don't), user stories can be a good starting point for figuring out what your requirements actually are. and having those user stories to provide context for the requirements can help you check that your proposed solution meets the spirit of the requirements and not just the letter. a concept of operations works the same way but without the stilted language and formatting (and baggage) surrounding user stories
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Dripp Pisso posted:One MVP story that just reads "As a user I want to do everything a user can do" a pro-gram-mer's lot is not a happy one
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Dripp Pisso posted:One MVP story that just reads "As a user I want to do everything a user can do" sounds like a really easy ticket to close as completed
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as a user I want to provision all the users who don't provision themselves
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Subjunctive posted:as a user I want to provision all the users who don't provision themselves you joke but I'm in a fight with a vendor because they don't have a mechanism to preprovision users
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Subjunctive posted:as a user I want to provision all the users who don't provision themselves gently caress, lol
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mvps are great but a company has to be extremely small to know whether or not something is Viable in advance. most of the big places I've worked (with more than a hundred devs) refuse to understand their customers in any way, even if they are internal customers just down the hallway
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not everything has to be loss
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all that poo poo is utterly standard if you read the papers and gobbledegook if you don't. gotta be beat into the gradient-toucher gang
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I know what a loss function is, bob
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anything can be loss
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you got beat in too. dearsirxnormadam is wriggling during the beating
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gonadic io posted:most vexing project
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gonadic io posted:most vaxing project
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i've first heard of "concept of operations" itt. i understand wanting to get away from anything tinged by the agile manifesto this is much more involved than a typical user story in that a user story will typically cover a much smaller component or function so different levels of description imo based on those two articles, like user stories would comprise sections 3 and 6 of that nasa outline Share Bear fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Feb 10, 2025 |
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Plorkyeran posted:sounds like a really easy ticket to close as completed yeah just link them to zombo.com and boom you're done
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hrm weird got an old php app that runs fine in a local docker container but when deployed to elastic beanstalk it just doesnt output anything (but http status is 200 in both the browser response and in the log on the ec2 instance) e: ah ok, changed error level and now it shows the error (db priv problem) Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Feb 13, 2025 |
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wtf the account works fine from my machine, it just cant connect from eb?? (db is also running in aws) e: lol the docker instance wasnt picking up the env so it was tryig to connect to localhost Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Feb 13, 2025 |
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