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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



sb hermit posted:

I am also the shitbag and my code is the poo poo that comes out of the bag

hell hyea high hfive

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champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Carthag Tuek posted:

update on this:



my guy up and gave notice cause he wants to work at some compliance startup so "that department" now means me. his last day is is july 31, but because he has to burn off 5 weeks vacation and i have to burn 3, we will only be in the office together for the next two weeks lmao

i guess im the senior dev now, so poo poo is gonna get real weird

welcome to being a senior dev! this job mainly entails seeing disasters coming from extremely far away and then running straight into them!

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



champagne posting posted:

welcome to being a senior dev! this job mainly entails seeing disasters coming from extremely far away and then running straight into them!

thing is i dont wanna be a senior dev and im not gonna be. imma go with "ill take these nibbles of the shitcake if you gimme big cash". you can hire another dude if you want a senior dev.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
idk what things are like in euroland but in the us unless this is the first year of your first programming job you are a senior dev. it is more or less synonymous with "experienced hire", as in, somebody who is not fresh out of education. or that's the theory anyway. in practice the standard is something along the lines of "can be given a small to moderate sized task to carry out independently and won't start pushing crayons up their nose if left unsupervised for more than five minutes", which is a bar that not every experienced hire seems to meet.

you're probably thinking of a position that is nowadays referred to as "principal engineer" or "staff engineer".

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Sapozhnik posted:

idk what things are like in euroland but in the us unless this is the first year of your first programming job you are a senior dev. it is more or less synonymous with "experienced hire", as in, somebody who is not fresh out of education. or that's the theory anyway. in practice the standard is something along the lines of "can be given a small to moderate sized task to carry out independently and won't start pushing crayons up their nose if left unsupervised for more than five minutes", which is a bar that not every experienced hire seems to meet.

you're probably thinking of a position that is nowadays referred to as "principal engineer" or "staff engineer".

oh right yeah, that is what i meant. his official title is "special consultant" which is one of the highest below leadership in public service (theres chief consultant above that and i dont think any others)

ive been working solo on a bunch of projects, just sparring with the other guy, so in that sense im not a junior im just a dev lol

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



but basically im at the highest paygrade i can get in my current position. i can get some extra grades based on vague qualifications/responsibilities but if i want to ascend more, thats what the "special consultant" title is for. problem is, that one is probably hard to get when youre on partial disability :|

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

tef posted:

money

edit: also garbage collection is so great, it makes up for many problems

just don't have garbage problem solved

mystes
May 31, 2006

tef posted:

edit: also garbage collection is so great, it makes up for many problems

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Brain Candy posted:

something bad got into the water at google because this is the same garbage that happened in proto3, someone got really happy to make it impossible to tell if something was defaulted or unset

this is from a few pages back but proto3 made the weirdest goddamn choices and there's a reason 90% of stuff internally still uses proto2

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

quiggy posted:

this is from a few pages back but proto3 made the weirdest goddamn choices and there's a reason 90% of stuff internally still uses proto2

inertia

also proto2 made some whacky loving choices, as did thrift

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
proto2 made some dumb choices but they're understood enough that you can just avoid any problems they cause.

proto3 introduces a whole lot of new and exciting dumb choices

DX24TB1
Dec 30, 2022
I’ll just leave this here

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



is this the cell phone thread?

here is a mid 90s commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_RHbjFeF1U

being able to call someone even when youre on ice, on a trailer, that is new technology.

at the time it cost 70 øre per minute (roughly a dime)

haruspicy
Feb 10, 2023

Carthag Tuek posted:

wait not like that. theres a danish expression "opening your shitbag" is just letting it all out. but it doesnt work in english so here we are.

i thought i was opening it, but lo: i am become the shitbag

what is it in danish for i work with many danes

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Sapozhnik posted:

you're probably thinking of a position that is nowadays referred to as "principal engineer" or "staff engineer".

think there’s a lot of title inflation in devs nowadays. comparing titles won’t do you much good.

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker

Carthag Tuek posted:

wait not like that. theres a danish expression "opening your shitbag" is just letting it all out. but it doesnt work in english so here we are.

i thought i was opening it, but lo: i am become the shitbag

I am also Danish and I have no idea what expression this is supposed to be, so this is probably some domain-specific term used just for your code base.

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->
you just bought 1.000 litres of milk

DX24TB1
Dec 30, 2022

tef posted:

you just bought 1.000 litres of milk

Kamelåså?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



haruspicy posted:

what is it in danish for i work with many danes

åbne for lorteposen

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

tef posted:

you just bought 1.000 litres of milk

:hmmyes:

animist
Aug 28, 2018

DX24TB1 posted:

I’ll just leave this here



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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

DX24TB1 posted:

I’ll just leave this here



good

RokosCockatrice
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.
How is rtmp still the standard. How is flv still the loving standard.

mystes
May 31, 2006

RokosCockatrice posted:

How is rtmp still the standard. How is flv still the loving standard.
where are they still the standard?

RokosCockatrice
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.
If you want to stream to an nginx server you're stuck with rtmp. To be fair my opinions ossified when office life fell victim to covid, but I'll blame webrtc's lack of a proper ecosystem on the fact it only had its first stable release last year (meaning 2018).

Edit: How mature can a piece of video software be if it's not even supported by ffmpeg?!

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





I have been programming on an rpi400 (a raspberry pi 4 in a keyboard enclosure which gives it a big heatsink) for the past few days for a hobby project and would like to share with the thread some observations:

  • keyboard is terrible but still useable
  • raspberry pi on a desktop os requires a lot of patience
  • programming in C++ on this box is fun for hobby projects but I can see it getting tedious for anything real
  • a lot of web pages seem to do a lot of heavy client rendering which makes them impossible to use on a raspberry pi and I have to use a real laptop
  • consequently, man pages are a godsend because they just work and don’t require a web browser
  • valgrind doesn’t work with sdl because apparently valgrind really does require knowledge of every single instruction so I have to recompile it on pc to test for memory leaks

if you want your students to refrain from googling the answer then just make them use a raspberry pi

also, I just use vi to edit code so I have no idea if any electron based IDEs run at all on a raspberry pi, much less run with acceptable latency

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





I can see an rpi400 running a full screen kiosk or a word processor no problem but it’s the modern web where you really can’t do without anything less than a 40 watt processor and 4 to 8 GB of RAM.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Read
The
Manual
Phucker

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

RokosCockatrice posted:

How is rtmp still the standard. How is flv still the loving standard.

RTMP is almost the only choice for publishing (not the consumer side) a stream with low latency adaptive encoding over the interwebs. Only below 4K though.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853702

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
I made a lil website recently and intentionally used as little as possible, just default browser everything with a little css for text and table formatting. holy poo poo is it fast and usable

dialog element was clutch. eight million ways to float an element over top and dismiss on click outside or when clicking cancel button? nah there's just one way: dialog

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

pokeyman posted:

I made a lil website recently and intentionally used as little as possible, just default browser everything with a little css for text and table formatting. holy poo poo is it fast and usable

dialog element was clutch. eight million ways to float an element over top and dismiss on click outside or when clicking cancel button? nah there's just one way: dialog

You're under arrest for framework evasion.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

pokeyman posted:

I made a lil website recently and intentionally used as little as possible, just default browser everything with a little css for text and table formatting. holy poo poo is it fast and usable

dialog element was clutch. eight million ways to float an element over top and dismiss on click outside or when clicking cancel button? nah there's just one way: dialog

css is bad but javascript is incredibly worse and removing it fixes so many issues

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





pokeyman posted:

I made a lil website recently and intentionally used as little as possible, just default browser everything with a little css for text and table formatting. holy poo poo is it fast and usable

dialog element was clutch. eight million ways to float an element over top and dismiss on click outside or when clicking cancel button? nah there's just one way: dialog

:nice:

RokosCockatrice
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.
Trying out vscode and compared to the jetbrains ecosystem... oh my god. It's like I've been wandering around in a fog of ~400ms latency for the past two years.

Definitely stands out that input latency is ordered somewhere along the lines of console you get when grub is broken < sublime text < vs code < arbitrary modern website <<<< jetbrains tools

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

i def feel like iterm2 and vim w/ale introduce a ton of input lag on osx

i see people zip around much faster on the occasional programming stream i stumble across, i wonder whats the difference

havelock
Jan 20, 2004

IGNORE ME
Soiled Meat

pokeyman posted:

I made a lil website recently and intentionally used as little as possible, just default browser everything with a little css for text and table formatting. holy poo poo is it fast and usable

dialog element was clutch. eight million ways to float an element over top and dismiss on click outside or when clicking cancel button? nah there's just one way: dialog

Coming back to front end after having been away for quite a while I was similarly pleased with the state of html/css. I ended up using pico.css and it worked great and looks pretty good by default, too.

MrQueasy
Nov 15, 2005

Probiot-ICK

Share Bear posted:

i def feel like iterm2 and vim w/ale introduce a ton of input lag on osx

i see people zip around much faster on the occasional programming stream i stumble across, i wonder whats the difference

Skill issue.

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

MrQueasy posted:

Skill issue.

very much could be! but it seems like there's less delay between keys pressed and things happening, or like less key repeat time for people that dont use movements and use arrow keys

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
is Next.js good?

im seeing it a lot in job descriptions and i dont know why anyone would bother with serverside rendering in 2023

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mystes
May 31, 2006

Corla Plankun posted:

is Next.js good?

im seeing it a lot in job descriptions and i dont know why anyone would bother with serverside rendering in 2023
search engines

it's really dumb that you have to add all this extra complexity to an spa that can't actually be used without javascript just for that but that is where we are in 2023 I guess

there's also dumb poo poo like hydration which is even uglier

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