'tis thread for general programming chat, but also learning environment and sandbox for any topics in or around programming, without prejudice - however silly or irrelevant any given idea may feel please mind a few things, namely: 1) forum and yospos rules 2) dont be jerk to people just because they do a coding thing 3) mind your ciclejerks, a lot of this thread is serious questions and advice given last thread - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3836929 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 15:49 |
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2024 13:06 |
mystes posted:Sorry, the thread title must contain at least one number and at least one emoji. will be added in next version, wontfix
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 15:54 |
Gazpacho posted:What’s mcafee up to now?? last i heard it was selling cryptocoin startup tweets for $100k a pop
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 16:24 |
im just being terrible coworker and audibly giggling as the fallout from deleted prod database seeps in
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 16:54 |
for reference, dude currently deemed responsible for the deletion was adamantly against having a dba or taking some control off laravel orm
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 16:55 |
Shaggar posted:giving developers access to a database is a bad idea. you and me and our dwh team. not the rest of our organisation, however. it’s a necessarily evil in my opinion, but it’s completely unregulated here, with widely ranging consequences
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 16:59 |
Corla Plankun posted:is this the one you posted about saving to disk like 16 hours ago or is this a different vulnerable prod database? different, new product that just launched. yesterday i was saving to disk all custom tables from our dwh (mostly created by my team manually), since the information was that there are no backups and normal etl process would naturally not regenerate them now, as it turns out, there are alleged backups for all servers, and allegedly they've already restored that prod database from the nightly backup. but, the data size there should be just a few hundred megabytes yet the replica has not propagated yet for some reason? tomorrow is going to be a funny morning i feel
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 17:06 |
Toady posted:why are there two terrible programming threads there are?
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 17:27 |
Toady posted:yeah, there's always two programming threads for some reason. i guess it's the current hipste oh thats the theory of being bad thread, here we are just bad
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 17:34 |
i mean i for sure am, im not sure what half of yall are hiding from here
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 17:34 |
actually the other programming thread is just maven mailing list
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 18:21 |
gonadic io posted:like is that it? end of the company? nah, it’s a new recently launched product that is our attempt to expand into a different field of our industry, so it’s not the end of the world by any means. worst case scenario we will incur direct losses in low six digits of usd - in case the nightly backup was yet another spur of the moment lie or unfinished feature too early to tell right now since when we discovered the problem it was 9pm in our it timezone it’s just funny, in a sad way, to watch crisis scenario happen after being softly told to gently caress off with process improvement proposal aimed at remediation of such problems
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 18:39 |
another cjs: our developers on a different product don’t know why double digit % of records in one of they key tables of their database have their updated_at field changed each night when the records otherwise are unaltered
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 18:42 |
Powerful Two-Hander posted:agreedo we currently also have “our it is being overwhelmed by tasks so we have hired student interns with access to our prod to solve problems” while cto is busy double time to hire as many of his friends into his team and take as many critical developments on them as possible to make him politically irreplaceable before the poo poo of corporate reorganisation hits his fan
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 19:21 |
also we have no docs for anything so if any developer team leader is on vacation then it’s “boss knows but is vacationing” season
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 19:23 |
Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:at least that skips the step where you look up the doc, read it, and then realize that the actual design has changed completely since then and no one bothered to update the doc god drat it
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 20:22 |
Share Bear posted:i really like python ive found it very easy to work with and get stuff done in as long as i never ever have to deploy it outside one specific environment if you dep to windows the conda env is an option, otherwise (and maybe in general) check out pipenv, it’s the new hotness
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 22:03 |
Soricidus posted:is where i stopped reading enjoy platform-agnostic python deployment planning i guess
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 22:19 |
MrMoo posted:I saw this on Twitter, I think it applies to any JS thing not just React, im dying
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 07:04 |
DaTroof posted:if you wanna be overpaid to make the world worse go into fintech
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 07:09 |
refleks posted:terrible programmer checking in. aksually im a DATA SCIENTIST which means i do data and the sciences thereof or thereto. hey data science pipenv club
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 09:12 |
as for phd i kinda want to do it at some point, partially as personal challenge, and partially due to higher profile data science positions being fond of it as a credential. it helps that in eu phd is 3-4, seldom 5 year affair with guaranteed stable salary in any decent place, but that salary is still pennies compared to commercial rates and im not sure about the opportunity cost. before that, however, i should sort my masters degree and health out at the very least
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 09:14 |
refleks posted:represent. were you also in denmark or just near here? other baltic coast, latvia
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 12:06 |
i did smoke danish cigarettes way back if that counts
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 12:06 |
refleks posted:Same poo poo - in america we would be the two closes cities in the midwest it’s one day car drive due to existence of Poland but less than 2 hours by plane yeah
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 13:48 |
HoboMan posted:also thank you cinci for doing the needful and making a new thread. it had been almost 6 months since the last thread got in a tabs v spaces slapfight sapozhnik was displeased with my thread title, had to compensate
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 19:51 |
re: dropped prod database. turns out a team lead confused two projects and thought he was in the test environment of project B, when he was in prod environment of project A. thankfully there were actual nightly backups and everything was restored in order fashion, sans literally a dozen primary licence keys being invalidated
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2018 10:37 |
Boiled Water posted:and the backup works as well? wonders never cease weirdly enough i only had to remind twice about broken replication, otherwise it did work as advertised
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2018 11:30 |
MALE SHOEGAZE posted:lol @ having a database schema , what a peasant no longer friends with male shoegaze, now shaggar is my best friend
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2018 04:43 |
MALE SHOEGAZE posted:honestly i don't want to touch a database ever again. mongo is so bad. mongon't
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2018 04:49 |
as a data scientist in europe, the paycheck bit is true but with physics degree i don’t feel confidently competitive (wrt “hard skills”) with folks who have degree in math or stats or bioinformatics or something like that. cs degree in data science is more of a red flag, honestly, unless it’s a machine learning specifically (and even then it’s debatable) - there’s noticeable stigma that cs graduate have tunnel vision and need to be herded around. also all the creme de la creme positions here (six european figgies) prefer, if not require, a phd. ive not seen many positions that outright require a phd, but it is very common for phd to be seen as equivalent of 3-5 years of professional data science experience but this is eu, mostly eastern/northern
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2018 08:38 |
gonadic io posted:Lol I studied monads, complex analysis, graph theory, and crypto and not much else in my math degree. Better watch out I'm coming for all your stats jobs! please no
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2018 09:15 |
returning to topic of job scheduling: anyone knows alternatives to rundeck? my job needs a gui shell for cron jobs with basic tooling like logging or execution emails, since one of our senior developers still doesn’t know how to work with ssh tunnels or command line linux
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2018 20:04 |
it’s literally to janitor 1 machine and i can’t be arsed to spend a week reconfiguring rundeck and fixing process leak (it’s basically “threads away” and whoops you have 3rd of your ram occupied by ~something~)
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2018 20:05 |
Corla Plankun posted:how often do they need to be rescheduled/tinkered with? it sounds like Luigi might be need-suiting maybe the most common use cases are to 1) read log after failed execution 2) manually run the job before schedule
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2018 20:10 |
Mao Zedong Thot posted:Fire ur Sr developer that can't be assed to do their job ive made my comments about this at work already but the reality is that his core job he is doing exceptionally well, he just has only windows experience
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2018 20:39 |
tef posted:i'm just mad all the time
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2018 04:38 |
it’s not that bad, i just with everything related to computers was different at my work
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2018 05:09 |
normally this is the case where you curl up and succumb to the sweet embrace of the void
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2018 06:36 |
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2024 13:06 |
c cron gui replacement gui update s: me: here i found you option to do the same but this one is used by real and reputable people sr: no but this piece of poo poo with have systematic problems with was used at the last job so ill try to work around it or ask you to janitor it if everything fails. thanks for looking cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jul 25, 2018 |
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2018 15:41 |