Nessus posted:I mean, people who live in an area tend to clean it up at least a little. People don't voluntarily live in muddy filth despite what postapocalyptica has conditioned us to believe. 
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Not as a whole though. I literally lived in Detroit projects and people really did try.
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Nov 21, 2018 01:39
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The apartments I lived in in college had crack heads and dealers and they were very clean, the laundry room included Later in life I lived in a revitalized ghetto and it looked like suburbs of Washington state 
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Nov 21, 2018 02:01
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precision posted:The apartments I lived in in college had crack heads and dealers and they were very clean, the laundry room included The reason why people are saying this is because the idea that upper middle class people have of how poor people live is different then how they really live. If your poor, grew up poor, or born in a non-first world county you know that people try even if they don't have the money.
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Nov 21, 2018 17:17
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Nessus posted:I mean, people who live in an area tend to clean it up at least a little. People don't voluntarily live in muddy filth despite what postapocalyptica has conditioned us to believe. Yeah, I'm just going on what I remember seeing in the anime all those years ago though. I remember junk falling from the flying city shown multiple times through it, junk just sat in the streets, abandoned and tin shack buildings with wonky signs on them, packs of dogs feeding from overturned bins, tech thrown together from bits and pieces... Junkyards and junk. Maybe the manga is different, I've never read it I'm just noting the live action trailer being a little too clean looking in comparison.
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Nov 21, 2018 23:47
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It's more or less the same in the manga. The city's very much a lawless place with the only thing resembling a government being the factories that manufacture stuff to ship up to the floating city. Edit: This made me reread the first few chapters to see the city's look. It's mostly a decaying factory aesthetic. Also: shout out to Makaku's talking pighead codpiece battle computer. Alita doesn't even bat an eye when it pipes up out of nowhere 
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Nov 22, 2018 00:03
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Kassad posted:It's more or less the same in the manga. The city's very much a lawless place with the only thing resembling a government being the factories that manufacture stuff to ship up to the floating city. I'll bet the story behind that is that it started off as just a  sick metal-as-gently caress decoration that Kishiro drew, and then he needed something to narrate and just was like "gently caress it I'll have it be the boar head on his crotch!"
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Nov 22, 2018 02:08
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Yeah, I'm just going on what I remember seeing in the anime all those years ago though. I remember junk falling from the flying city shown multiple times through it, junk just sat in the streets, abandoned and tin shack buildings with wonky signs on them, packs of dogs feeding from overturned bins, tech thrown together from bits and pieces... Junkyards and junk. Maybe the manga is different, I've never read it I'm just noting the live action trailer being a little too clean looking in comparison.
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Nov 22, 2018 02:33
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The city in the manga is the kind of place where no one looks twice at Ido when he's bleeding from the stomach and carrying the severed upper torso of Alita through a crowd. They're at least polite enough not to trample them when the two collapse in the street though.
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Tormented posted:The reason why people are saying this is because the idea that upper middle class people have of how poor people live is different then how they really live. 100% this. Plus something else I think people miss with this is that, like if we're going to go back and look at Blade Runner since it was so influential on this. I think people say they want it to look "messier" because that's magically more "dystopian" but what I think they're really looking for is the detailed density to all of the clutter everywhere in stuff like Blade Runner or Hardware. Like Deckard's apartment is absolutely full of stuff, but, it's super detailed, but I think with distance people look back and see it as messy or not upkept or whatever. I do think this is something Alita does miss out on a little bit from what we've seen, like in a cyberpunk dystopia I'd expect the infrastructure itself to be ramshackle or or in bad shape (something this movie doesn't quite seem to have nailed) but there's a huge difference between that and like garbage covering every surface. But the comic really did that have that kind of high detail that the movie seems to lack so far.
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Kassad posted:It's more or less the same in the manga. The city's very much a lawless place with the only thing resembling a government being the factories that manufacture stuff to ship up to the floating city. Yeah, the only thing looking like government are the Deckmen, which are largely lobotomized head-in-jar clerks that do all the clerical, logistics work around the Junkyard. Everyone is largely subcontracted from them, such as the Hunter-Killers and the Rail Mercenaries. There IS a military/security section, but it only appears whenever there's an actual threat to Zalem/Tiphares, like when the Barjack actually try to make a move on city and even that's after the Tuned and the central computer largely deals with external threats.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puKWa8hrvA8 New trailer with a slew of new stuff. The terraforming wars (or whatever they'll make of that), armblade and more motorball. Actually getting excited for this now!
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I am looking forward to the movie, but I do worry that they are trying to cram too much into one movie. It really feels like enough for two or three movies.
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Lockmat posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puKWa8hrvA8 Blue Oyster Cult logo spotted on Zapan's forehead, movie saved.
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Ryuujin posted:I am looking forward to the movie, but I do worry that they are trying to cram too much into one movie. It really feels like enough for two or three movies. Seconding this. Somewhat worried  that it'll be way too packed-in, but I am getting increasingly hyped for the action, which is starting to look extremely cool.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Blue Oyster Cult logo spotted on Zapan's forehead, movie saved. Not seeing it! Also armblade! Motorball segments look straight out of the manga. Hugo / Alita on the transport tube ending looks straight out of the anime. This is look great!
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MonsieurChoc posted:Blue Oyster Cult logo spotted on Zapan's forehead, movie saved. We have trenchcoat, I say again we have trenchcoat.
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Dec 10, 2018 17:20
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A lot of the scenes are word-for-word translations of the actual scenes in the manga!
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Looks from the trailer that she was involved in some sort of ground assault on Tiphares during the war and not her manga origin, which is sort of disappointing but I can live with it. Still I gotta say that surviving re-entry sans limbs woulda been metal as gently caress, super-terrorism or no.
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Tormented posted:Not seeing it! Pause when he's slamming Yugo. It's small but it's there.
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Dec 10, 2018 17:38
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MonsieurChoc posted:Pause when he's slamming Yugo. It's small but it's there. Wow its flesh colored. It was hard to find even when I directly looking for it. 
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It seems like a self-inflicted scar.
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Now that we've seen many more robots, I'm a bit let down by their design and color. They all look too busy and too gray. I don't know if it's a deliberate reference to Kubrick's AI, but that's what most of the bots remind me of. The way I remember the manga, there where a lot more flat surfaces and pipes and whatnot involved in the design of most robots.
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Needs more neon, I agree. The heavily saturated aesthetic of GDT's film's is how always imagine a live action Battle Angel would look like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwDfwrHuMRI
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teagone posted:Needs more neon, I agree. The heavily saturated aesthetic of GDT's film's is how always imagine a live action Battle Angel would look like. Oh my god. Imagine: Battle Angel directed by Jean-Claude Jeunet.
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DrSunshine posted:Oh my god. Imagine: Battle Angel directed by Jean-Claude Jeunet. Yeah, as bad as Alien Resurrection was, I was always loved the look of that film of his the most.
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I hope this does well and somehow leads to a live-action Armitage III movie.
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Holy loving oh my god this looks amazing  I can't wait for February holy gently caress
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NmareBfly posted:Looks from the trailer that she was involved in some sort of ground assault on Tiphares during the war and not her manga origin, which is sort of disappointing but I can live with it. Still I gotta say that surviving re-entry sans limbs woulda been metal as gently caress, super-terrorism or no. Have... have they cast Nova?
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DrSunshine posted:Oh my god. Imagine: Battle Angel directed by Jean-Claude Jeunet. Jean-Pierre!
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Nessus posted:Well the problem with the manga origin is the complication of how she gets to that point, while "a soldier, who fell off the side, and then, to Earth" is simple and if they only make the one movie, self contained. This is true, but they don't necessarily need to have an answer to a lot of her amnesia in the course of one movie even if it's a one-and-done. Like, have a flashback of her falling through the atmosphere without much other context? That's just as simple. Could also keep the flashback soldier stuff without directly connecting it all, make it seem like she was in a spaceship that got hole punched. Isn't that what happened in the original series ending before TLO retconned it? Right now I figure they're doing it this way for a narrative echo when she tries to save Hugo from falling off the same cable. Also little detail, in the flashback she has 99 on her shoulder.
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Scrapyard definitely looking shinier than I'd've liked but otherwise WOOOOOOOOO
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You reckon they've (please excuse the pun) scrapped the scrap yard?
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Olympic Mathlete posted:You reckon they've (please excuse the pun) scrapped the scrap yard?
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Clipperton posted:Scrapyard definitely looking shinier than I'd've liked but otherwise WOOOOOOOOO Man anyone who had a problem with Gal Gadot being "too small" to be Wonder Woman are gonna lose their poo poo, understanding that Alita is a cyborg or not
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I'm more so disappointed about the lips tbh. Otherwise I think she looks great.
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Dec 11, 2018 22:44
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And they're still writing "Alita" the same way as on the manga 
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I think you’ll find that in the manga they spelled it “Gally.” 
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Aces High posted:Man anyone who had a problem with Gal Gadot being "too small" to be Wonder Woman are gonna lose their poo poo, understanding that Alita is a cyborg or not Maybe we can be offended that they didn't cast an actual quadruple amputee for the role.
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I can't believe they didn't cast an actual full-body cyborg! This movie is bullshit!!
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