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precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Please keep all meltdowns and drama out of here. The old thread was not a "safe space" but the mods did ask that you keep it on topic and not poo poo it up with memes or no-content shitposts. Thanks!

Exterior. Space. 2 Years later.



No Man's Sky is coming out on XBOX, and it's a whole new world.

- Multiplayer
- Character Customization
- Clouds
- Better animals
- Better procgen (more "Earth like")

The NEXT patch will be free for all owners of No Man's Sky.

Join us in the Official Goon Discord(tm):

https://discord.gg/cPA3BsC

precision fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jul 24, 2018

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precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town





precision posted:

If you need lots of Gold and Silver for Freighter Command Rooms

Herox breaks down into Silver (1:250)
Lemmium breaks down into Gold (1:250)
Magno-Gold breaks down into Gold
Living Slime (and goop and viscous fluid) breaks down into Silver as well

If you have a Personal Forcefield, you use it with L1.

You can put three Movement Upgrades in each of your main suit Inventory and your Technology tab. Do this. You can get up to 1200% Jetpack duration this way. Yes, twelve hundred per cent.

You only ever need one colored Hyperdrive upgrade - they are "backwards compatible". The order is Cadmium, Emeril, Indium. You can find the materials for each drive in the star color of the previous drive; in other words, Red stars often have Cadmium, which is used to make an Emeril drive, which allows you to visit Green stars, which often have Emeril, which allows you to make the Indium Drive, which allows you to visit Blue (or any) stars.

Powershift posted:

I'm sure there's some stuff i'm missing, but here's my attempt:

Simple quick start guide:


1. Follow the tutorial until it gives you the option to free explore
2.a. mine enough to build a few warp cells, warp to a few new sectors visiting the station and pick up all the missions except deliveries. or
b. join random games, and visit the station, pick up any missions, etc
3.similar missions stack, so completing one completes them all, this should give you a supply of nanites
4.with nanites buy S-level upgrades for the phase cannon, life support, mining laser, scanner. Don't buy upgrades for photon cannon
5.build a base, build and populate the specialist terminals, follow through the missions to learn how to farm and get the exocraft
6.make money(see below)
7.teleport to each station from step 2, behind the leftmost vender is an exosuit upgrade you can buy. warp/join until you have as many slots as you want/need. ignore drop pods, drop pods suck.

Examples of how to make money:

-3 S-class scanners stacked in your tool will give you 150-400k per plant/animal scanned
-Farming mushrooms/mordite/cacti in their native biomes allow you to make liquid explosive that is $1m a pop
-Missions will eventually start rewarding you with expensive items, some of which can be combined to make even more expensive ones
-scanning every animal on a planet and uploading it gives a large bonus. there are nocturnal and cave specific animals that can be hard to find

How do i?

-get a freighter: the first freighter you save from pirates is given to you for free, make it count
-Find crashed ships: find navigation data in the stations, land on a planet, build a signal booster, use the navigation data to search for distress signals
-Repair all these broken bits on it!: don't, wait until another ship lands on your freighter and trade your busted one for a working one
-get formulas: use navigation data and the signal booster to search secured frequencies to find manufacturing facilities. shoot the door with the ship or use the plasma launcher. you can reload if you get the puzzle wrong
-get bluerprints: use your visor to search for burried technology, these look like downward pointing arrows, each one will either give you nanites, or tokens to use in the blueprint scanner you can build at your base


Things to have at all times:
Signal booster: good for finding ships/manufacturing facilities/ancient sites. Don't keep forgetting it everywhere like a jerk
Portable refiner: you never know when you'll need a more advanced material
Ferrite dust

Things you should know:

-magnetic ferrite goes a lot farther to charging your terrain tool than the lower forms of ferrite
-upgrades don't carry over to your new ship/tool, but you can disassemble them for 50% of the parts before trading
-every station has 5-6 blue/orange cubes or small black circles on tables/desks, touching them gives you nanite clusters or navigation data
-buy fuel or the parts to make it in bulk. launcher fuel stacks 20 deep in regular inventory
-some ships come with a launcher efficiency module, this reduces the fuel used per launch to 10-15% and helps greatly in the early game.
-The first freighter you save from pirates is given to you for free
-Broken ships you claim but don't repair appear on your freighter when you get one. You can trade them for working ships that land on your freighter
-Don't claim more than 8 additional broken ships or there is nowhere for new ships to land in your freighter to trade
-Multi-tool/suit/ship upgrades in the same category have to be touching for the effects to fully stack
-Fly backwards shoot forwards until you have a good fighting ship
-you don't have to stay in the refeiner for it to keep working
-the stationary refiner doesn't need fuel
-you get a full refund on components for base parts you delete
-hit the melee button then quickly hit the jetpack button to fly forward at high speed
-if a sentinel can see you, you get a white arrow in your central vision and a flashing sentinal sign. if it turns blue, stop destroying poo poo because you're being scanned
-you can zap stuff from anywhere into your on-base storage but can only remove it manually
-the 3 hyperdrive upgrades allow you to warp to different colored stars with different/advanced planets and materials
-quick charge stuff by pressing down on the d-pad/arrow keys, it automatically goes to whatever is lowest.
-don't leave the atmosphere with sentinels on you, you can't lose the ships, or use your pulse engine with them on you. Just hover low to the ground until you lose them before going to space
-you can restart missions you get too far from in order to bring them closer to you.
-you can only add 3 letter-graded upgrades to each device, but you can have 2 groups of 3 in your suit and poo poo by having 3 in your main storage and 3 in your tech slots.
-don't plant plants on modified land, the game might eventually fill it in

Funkmaster General posted:

How to find your 24-slot S-rank Multitool :

* Install an economy scanner in your ship and unlock and build a save point (carry this with you).

* Find and warp to a rich star system (last word of the economy report should be something like wealthy, oppulent, booming, etc). These have higher chance of selling an S-rank multitool. As an added bonus, they also have a higher volume of ships, which equates to a higher chance you'll find an exotic ship while you're working on the tool.

* Visit the space station and check the multitool shop display. This is important: The class ranking of the tool displayed here will never change. If it's an A-class tool, it will always be an A-class tool. Keep warping until you find an S-class display. Don't forget to buy exosuit upgrades from each station!

* Once you find the S-class display case, we're going to use a trick to reroll the contents of it. Fly to one of the planets and land. Place the save point on the ground and use it. Wait a second for the save to register, then go into the menu and reload the last manual save (the one you just made).

* Fly back to the station and check the display again. If you don't like the results (it isn't 24-slot, you don't like the color or model, or you'd rather try for an experimental or alien tool), fly to a different planet and repeat. You can do this once for each planet and moon in the system.

The reason this works is that every planet has a multitool associated with it, that you can buy from one of the buildings on that planet. However, some planets don't have that building. Each system also has a multitool, which is for sale on the space station. The station tool is determined when you warp to the system, but if you load a game and never warp, the station just sells the last planetary tool it loaded up instead. For some reason, it's the display case that determines the rank and stats of a tool, but the planet determines the model, color, installed tech, and number of slots.


precision fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Aug 3, 2018

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.


I am cautiously optimistic this will make the game better, though I am still not sure what to do in this "chill simulator".

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


So...you dont know how to be chill then?

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


To make it even funnier, use the first post just for the discord link because lord knows why its reserved lol

xilni
Feb 26, 2014






Because inevitably weíll want to to post a FAQ to capture that 10% of people who read the OP instead of just poo poo posting away.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Six AM posted:

To make it even funnier, use the first post just for the discord link because lord knows why its reserved lol

I intend to post pretty pictures there once I get the update.

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


Heres the faq

The game wont ever be the fantasy you secretly want it to be. Get high, go around and see proc gen planets and animals and plants. Build your base however you want. The nms sky peeps on here seem incredibly weird sometimes because it seems to me like you are clinging to some delusional poo poo that you understand to some degree is delusional but you refuse to let go.

Anime_Otaku
Dec 6, 2009


GTA is doing what is probably their last big update tomorrow but Iíll give this a few days to let the first impressions come out and probably grab this on Xbox by the weekend unless something horrible has happened as it had me kinda interested in getting a PS4 until everything was terrible as I remembered Elite from when I,was a kid but found the reboot a bit hard to get into, this kind of looked like Elite light.

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


precision posted:

I intend to post pretty pictures there once I get the update.

No one will ever go back to the first page to look at them as they continue to share pics with each other in the following pages just like they did in the last thread lol

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?

Ramrod XTreme

Six AM posted:

Heres the faq

The game wont ever be the fantasy you secretly want it to be. Get high, go around and see proc gen planets and animals and plants. Build your base however you want. The nms sky peeps on here seem incredibly weird sometimes because it seems to me like you are clinging to some delusional poo poo that you understand to some degree is delusional but you refuse to let go.

With weed being legal now in Canada come September I'm going to take advantage of free build mode to chill and explore.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




I beat Subnautica, albeit on Easy because Food and Thirst meters can suck it, and I liked that it had a plot and ultimate goal. This did mean that the world was handcrafted with no RNG so replays would be samey. The real sins of that game was the pop-in, the atrocious land-controls and graphics on the two islands, and the cumbersome inventory management. Also the last act of the story was just two scavenger hunts which is take it or leave it.

If NMS gets a price-drop and the NEXT update is well received I'd take it, and I do hope the game is fleshed out enough to merit exploring. Joseph Anderson said two years ago that the only point of farming materials is to upgrade your tools to get better at farming materials, so I'm wary if the game is still a monotone grind. At least there's grass.

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


/\/\ it is just an empty grind and it wont ever change, but there is creative mode to ignore the grind completely. The game is just to go around and look at neat little poo poo withiut any expectations.

Hamelekim posted:

With weed being legal now in Canada come September I'm going to take advantage of free build mode to chill and explore.

Hell yeah. Ive never done the creative mode before, but i think thats the way to go this time. I want to see where you can build these bases and just how big they can be

Six AM fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jul 23, 2018

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.


Is survival obnoxiously hard or just an actual good challenge? Is that what most people play?

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever



Itís been mentioned but I want a way to capture and keep animals. Theyíre easy to feed and we can build bases; why canít we also build pens to keep our penis deer and dogcows in? I also want fishing. I want fishing in every drat game I play but especially this one.

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


Yeah, i wish the base building was basically just mgsv base building but with stuff like fishing. Let me have a personal zoo

Six AM fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jul 23, 2018

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.


God fishing is so stupid and boring and I agree I want it in every god drat game ever. Why the gently caress is fishing so dope?!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005





Toilet Rascal

Survival to me just seems obnoxious. Increased resource costs across the board, increased hazard intensity, and a more annoying death penalty. I'm sure some people like the challenge and risk but I just want to see the new content and play with friends.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009



Grimey Drawer

It's still just space exploration and base building, just now with 4 friends and random people along for the ride. It's not going to be EVE Online but there's communities that all go to one part of space thanks in part to a portal system.

You can chose to follow the story to head to the center of the universe. Following the story allows you to select from one of four new procgen seeds (Same as before, more extreme, more earth like planets, abandoned.) Just reaching the center advances the seed by one (to the same as before universe.) The end message of the story is nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody's gonna die. Now watch out for the whip fern.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Knifegrab posted:

God fishing is so stupid and boring and I agree I want it in every god drat game ever. Why the gently caress is fishing so dope?!

Let me tell you about Final Fantasy 15...


haveblue posted:

Survival to me just seems obnoxious. Increased resource costs across the board, increased hazard intensity, and a more annoying death penalty. I'm sure some people like the challenge and risk but I just want to see the new content and play with friends.

Knifegrab posted:

Is survival obnoxiously hard or just an actual good challenge? Is that what most people play?

Yeah Survival is just a masochistic grind, I don't expect that's changed for NEXT but maybe eventually they'll balance it into something more "fun". It's kinda fun to escape the first planet but then after that it's just a pain in the rear end.

Eyud
Aug 5, 2006



Six AM posted:

Get high, go around and see proc gen planets and animals and plants. Build your base however you want.

Hell yeah, looking forward to doing a bunch of this tomorrow!

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion


So are they ever going to have barren or actually untouched planets? Because being a 'planet explorer' really gets ruined when every planet has the same outpost with 3-4 NPCs in it.

Six AM
Nov 30, 2008


Away all Goats posted:

So are they ever going to have barren or actually untouched planets? Because being a 'planet explorer' really gets ruined when every planet has the same outpost with 3-4 NPCs in it.

I feel like ive been to really barren planets with no plants or animals, but im not sure if they had any outposts or not. Its been awhile since ive played

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever



While weíre talking about barren planets, how about black space for once? All the multicolor space clouds lose their wow factor when there is never a black backdrop to compare them against.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009



Grimey Drawer

https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Biome_-_Dead

quote:

Low-atmosphere worlds with an Dead biome are characterized by a complete lack of flora and fauna. They have rocky and dusty surfaces and are comparable to some real life airless terrestrial bodies like Mars or the Moon. Some worlds have an atmosphere while others don't. These worlds tend to have higher amounts of resources compared to other biomes. Bring sufficient Power Gels and Thamium9 when exploring these worlds, as they increase the strain on Life Support.

Yellow stars in Tranquil galaxies have 1/4 the chance to have dead planets, and yellow stars in Ancestral galaxies have 2x the chance, compared to other star types.

Unlike other biomes, dead worlds never contain any structures such as trading posts.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but far different.


I've played plenty of Survival on NMS and yeah it's a needless gind on anything crafting (I think it's a flat 3x multiplier on all costs) and you use up all your fuel to launch so landing epsecially early on is a huge loving risk if you land and surprise the planet is a hellhole and there's no fuel nearby. That said, survival at the start is actually a fun challenge as you try to repair your poo poo. Making trips miles away to find enough resources while also avoiding the elements or hostile creature is a really experience. Getting off the planet is this really rewarding thing that takes a few hours (to do it safely) and I appreciate survival for that. Unfortunately the oppressive fuel and crafting cost really limited how much exploring and base building you could get away with unless you sank A TON of time into grinding materials. I still manage to carve out enough of a base to set up a farm to make money, it just took a lot more time.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




26 minute preview video from the XBOX version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwgRvtohPE8

edit: check out 18:40 for a fun surprise

precision fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jul 23, 2018

SoR Blaze
Apr 12, 2006


I've been enjoying survival, because the increased hazards make exploring some planets more risky, but I wish there was a way to toggle which survival options you want. The fact that taking off uses up all of the fuel in your launch thrusters seriously discourages exploration, which seems counter-intuitive for this game, but if you make sure to recharge the thrusters as soon as you take off you won't be stuck anywhere. I also will sometimes carve up gold deposits for cash, so money isn't really much of an issue for me, and I use the cash to buy plutonium from space stations instead of farming it myself(though I do collect it where I see it when exploring).

Before I had all of this figured out, I got stuck on a planet with frenzied sentinels, and I had very little life support when I had gotten out of my ship, so when I died, I had to run around trying to collect enough thamium to recharge my life support, and enough plutonium to lift off, all while being chased by sentinels. Eventually it got too frustrating and I had to load an earlier save, which I'm glad was an option. If I could play Survival mode without the increased resource costs, or Normal mode with increased planetary hazards, that would be a sweet spot for me.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

precision posted:

edit: check out 18:40 for a fun surprise

Thatís cool, but those creatures look super rigid and awkward. You know from what I could see since the player pussied out and ran the gently caress away.

xilni
Feb 26, 2014






So apparently thereís another goon discord up and we donít want to duplicate/split the community.

Can you please change the link to https://discord.gg/cPA3BsC

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005





Toilet Rascal

precision posted:

26 minute preview video from the XBOX version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwgRvtohPE8

edit: check out 18:40 for a fun surprise

I'm glad those loving vines still appear inside buildings where you can't draw your gun

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before


the planet gen looks way better in that preview, he flies towards a blue and orange planet and that's actually what it is when he lands on it. I also like the fact that the game can now spawn decently sized flora.

I'm pretty excited for this update, I always felt that NMS (after all the previous updates) was like 90% of the way there, and this might tip it to being the game I originally wanted when it came out which was essentially just a space exploration game with crazy good procgen.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




xilni posted:

So apparently thereís another goon discord up and we donít want to duplicate/split the community.

Can you please change the link to https://discord.gg/cPA3BsC

No probs

abigserve posted:

the planet gen looks way better in that preview

yeah it really does, it finally looks like what i wanted from the base game

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008





If this game is at least as fun as moonbase alpha I'll probably enjoy it, can anyone confirm or deny

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 2010
I am trash mon
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS


i saw in one of the videos the player was on a ring planet and you could see the ring in the sky and god it looks pretty

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

and if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

I haven't played since last October. I can't wait to get back into this weird and beautiful universe.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Augus posted:

i saw in one of the videos the player was on a ring planet and you could see the ring in the sky and god it looks pretty

The clouds look almost too good if that makes sense.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA



Okay, I'm going to bed and when I wake up I want the update to be out and the stuff of dreams.

clone on the phone
Aug 5, 2003



heard there was a new thread. wanna play this update

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emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

and if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

precision posted:

The clouds look almost too good if that makes sense.

clouds are absolutely the dopest thing shown from Next so far, which is funny because Seanís magical cloud tech was one of the first things promised after launch and could reasonably called vaporware (heh) after it failed to appear in a year of subsequent updates. (in fact, clouds were completely broken on PS4 when Atlas Rises launched, and if memory serves it wasnít until the last patch pre-hibernation that they finally got fixed)

the subreddit has already gone through a whole loop of (1) being amazed at the clouds (2) seeing a brief leaked clip and panicking that the clouds in the trailer were faked (3) rationalizing that the leaked copy is running on an OG xbox one without the launch day patch, and also the clouds might be different on this planet (4) begging for and receiving a clip of only the clouds, proving theyíre real as hell and not bullshit. so here is a minute of some nice clouds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2gTYZBXnvA

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