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Aleph Null posted:loving sucks that he (and others) are firing talented, popular people who make them money just because of their politics. Here's me, arguing in favor of capitalism. Never thought I'd see the day. Are we still talking about Wendig?
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Oct 13, 2018 04:24
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GrandpaPants posted:This doesn't relate to Hollywood, but it relates to Marvel. They fired one of their Star Wars (comics) writers for calling shitheads such as convicted felon Dinesh D'souza and Ben Shapiro shitheads. Tweeting like this guy did might get you fired at any job, but apparently this guy had always been vulgar, political, and inflammatory on Twitter, had never been told it was a problem and in fact had been given backing from his Lucasfilm bosses, and according to him Marvel just fired him out of the blue. Disney seems to do this a lot more than other entertainment companies, so maybe they ought to enforce some sort of uniform code of conduct as pertaining to their employee's social media activity, rather than appearing to randomly bring the hammer down on people under potentially dubious circumstances like pissing off the wrong group of fake-outrage trolls. Though that still wouldn't have done anything for the James Gunn situation, since he was fired for things he wrote prior to even being their employee.
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AceOfFlames posted:Not the least bit surpising. Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter is a massive Trump supporter and IIRC is even part of his administration in some capacity. Perlmutter is one of Trump's 3 golf buddies who were given an extremely shady, undefined role as "advisors" to the Department of Veterans Affairs, which amounted to them essentially running it to make profit for their own holdings.
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Sucrose posted:Tweeting like this guy did might get you fired at any job, but apparently this guy had always been vulgar, political, and inflammatory on Twitter, had never been told it was a problem and in fact had been given backing from his Lucasfilm bosses, and according to him Marvel just fired him out of the blue. It wasn't "out of the blue", people here are currently talking about how the CEO is a Trump supporter. This was politically motivated, like it's not even a question, it's not "alleged", it's literally what happened.
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Oct 13, 2018 14:57
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Using twitter should be a fireable offense imo
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Oct 13, 2018 15:02
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Usung twitter should be a fireable offense imo After a certain point it stops being a "oh that sucks poor you" and more of a "what did you think would happen? You posted on Twitter"
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King Vidiot posted:It wasn't "out of the blue", people here are currently talking about how the CEO is a Trump supporter. This was politically motivated, like it's not even a question, it's not "alleged", it's literally what happened. This is just silly. Apparently some people are so accustomed to outbursts like Wendig's that they can only rationalize his firing as a pro-Trump partisanship. If Wendig had attacked the previous administration in this manner, the same people would be mocking him and applauding his firing as a wise and appropriate gesture instead.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:This is just silly. Apparently some people are so accustomed to outbursts like Wendig's that they can only rationalize his firing as a pro-Trump partisanship. Um... yeah? Because the people who were writing unhinged rants about the last administration were generally Nazis and other stripes of terrible people?  If you think our problem here is that Disney took a stance on politics, you're wrong. The problem is that Disney isn't taking a stance on politics, and in this day and age, where we're fighting loving Nazis in the White House, not taking a stance on politics is complicity in evil and basically is taking an evil stance on politics. If other posters here are correct that this decision was actually made by a high-ranking Trump supporter in Disney, then gently caress Disney for allowing someone like that to rise so far up the corporate ladder.
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21 Muns posted:Um... yeah? Because the people who were writing unhinged rants about the last administration were generally Nazis and other stripes of terrible people? Not everyone you disagree with is a Nazi.
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21 Muns posted:Um... yeah? Because the people who were writing unhinged rants about the last administration were generally Nazis and other stripes of terrible people? To be fair to Disney (ugh) Perlmutter was already CEO before Disney acquired Marvel (and had been a board member since the early 90s) and once the MCU got going they eventually cut him off of most influence in Marvel Studios because of his regressive views (he was apparently the one responsible for Black Widow not getting her own spinoff movie and when Don Cheadle replaced Terrence Howard as War Machine, he allegedly told another executive no one would notice because "all black people look the same"). I'm guessing they probably made some sort of deal in which they would allow him to do whatever he wanted with the comics in return.
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AceOfFlames posted:once the MCU got going they eventually cut him off of most influence in Marvel Studios because of his regressive views (he was apparently the one responsible for Black Widow not getting her own spinoff movie No wonder Black Widow got her own movie so quickly after that happened.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Not everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. Some of them are Nazi enablers.
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I love that the response to Perlmutter was just "cut off his 'influence'" instead of just firing him. I mean I know why, it's capitalism and the workers have no say over who their CEOs are and are powerless, it's just kind of lovely that the company sort of pivoted in this socially progressive direction but nearly all of their money gets funneled into a far-right Trumper's bank account. But Disney could fire him. I doubt they would though unless he made pedophile jokes on Twitter ten years ago.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Not everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. Holy poo poo.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:No wonder Black Widow got her own movie so quickly after that happened. If he was still in charge, we most likely wouldn't have Captain Marvel.
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AceOfFlames posted:Not the least bit surpising. Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter is a massive Trump supporter and IIRC is even part of his administration in some capacity. Perlmutter is a creepy guy.
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AceOfFlames posted:If he was still in charge, we most likely wouldn't have Captain Marvel. Maybe we could still get him back to cancel it?
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21 Muns posted:Um... yeah? Because the people who were writing unhinged rants about the last administration were generally Nazis and other stripes of terrible people? So you want the mega corporation controlled by billionaires to be less politically neutral?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Not everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. lol lamps jumped the shark.
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NovemberMike posted:So you want the mega corporation controlled by billionaires to be less politically neutral? They have not and never will be "politically neutral". They make their wealth off of conservative politics and will always lean and back those kinds of candidates and most likely back their opposition to be a lovely opponent. They will always lean right.
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Jimbot posted:They have not and never will be "politically neutral". They make their wealth off of conservative politics and will always lean and back those kinds of candidates and most likely back their opposition to be a lovely opponent. They will always lean right. You just said that they were being too neutral...
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NovemberMike posted:You just said that they were being too neutral... Because being neutral is an implicit approval of the status quo, it means “the way things are is fine.” The status quo in America right now is that the right wing has absolute power over all three branches of government. To remain neutral is to endorse them.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Not everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. Nazi apologist spotted.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:This is just silly. Apparently some people are so accustomed to outbursts like Wendig's that they can only rationalize his firing as a pro-Trump partisanship. What would he have been attacking about the previous administration? If he was ranting about Obama-era deportations or how drone warfare was hosed up, "the same people" would either say, "he's right," or "sure, but I don't really care about this issue." If he was furious about government overreach or some specific Obama policy he hated, I guarantee there wouldn't be enough people to "mock or applaud his firing." It wouldn't have been on anyone's radar at all, and he probably wouldn't even have been fired. Obviously, the level of disgust Wendig has for the Trump administration is specific to the racism and rape-culture apologism at its center. The only rants with similar animus for Obama as an individual came from racists who thought he was "ruining America."
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Using twitter should be a fireable offense imo Just delete twitter. No, I don't mean your twitter, I mean the entire site should be deleted.
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Judakel posted:Nazi apologist spotted. It took you 25 pages?
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Xealot posted:What would he have been attacking about the previous administration? If he was ranting about Obama-era deportations or how drone warfare was hosed up, "the same people" would either say, "he's right," or "sure, but I don't really care about this issue." If he was furious about government overreach or some specific Obama policy he hated, I guarantee there wouldn't be enough people to "mock or applaud his firing." It wouldn't have been on anyone's radar at all, and he probably wouldn't even have been fired. The problem is that you parse these situations through the lens of Titus 1:15. To pure people like Wendig, nothing is impure, while to the corrupted, all things are corrupted. The thing is, Trump being bad doesn't make Wendig good. He still wrote an idiotic Twitter rant about how Winter is Coming for the Republican Party.
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Plastik posted:It took you 25 pages? which gives us the answer to- Zebulon posted:I'm mystified as to why anyone still replies to them at this point.
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No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:12 pages. Lamps doesn't start posting until halfway through the thread, which hasn't stopped them from making a hundred posts (the most anyone has posted ITT by a few dozen) I can't stand BotL but they are asking questions (even if they are in bad faith) that at least half of America would legitimately ask if they read this forum, and probably asking them in a nicer way to boot.
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Dunno if this is the right thread for this, but: The "An Open Secret" people are now trying to go after Troma Films founder Lloyd Kaufman, which after reading the linked material makes me wonder if they were dropped on the head as a baby, or if these are always bad-faith efforts to try and take down "leftists." Obviously stuff like this isn't going to result in anything, but it does make me wonder just how incredibly stupid their followers are to not hit the "unfollow" button immediately. https://twitter.com/AnOpenSecret/status/1055577456340541440 https://twitter.com/AnOpenSecret/status/1055584009219174400 And of course they tie it back to Kaufman and James Gunn tweeting to each other about NAMBLA circa 2008, something which is definitely a confession of membership by the both of them and could not possibly have been a joke. And as further evidence, Kaufman was apparently once photographed having dinner with John Podesta. The unfortunate thing, of course, is that there no doubt are rings of pedos in Hollywood and other high places, but Cernovich, this account, Jack Posobiec, etc just further muddy the waters and make it harder to separate actual allegations from the rabbithole of pizzagate-esque insanity.
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"Why should any parents trust you to direct Troma films with their children?" reads like a goddamn parody.
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"I thought Troma was a family company! I am outraged sir, outraged!"
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I remember reading a Dutch interview with Lloyd Kaufman back in 2003 where he spoke out against Roman Polanski and how Hollywood giving him a standing ovation was more disgusting than anything Troma could ever come up with. It's summarized right here: https://www.schokkendnieuws.nl/specials/4677-dieptepunt-de-vijf-meest-geschifte-interviews
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Oct 28, 2018 23:03
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There's nothing to fire Lloyd Kaufman from.
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Oct 29, 2018 01:19
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I hope Lloyd's response is like Murray Martini's from Tromeo & Juliet.
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The only Troma movie I've ever seen is Doggie Tails, Vol. 1: Lucky's First Sleep-Over. I am disgusted by this Lloyd Kaufman fellow.
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