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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
I gotta get back to scrolling through Haier’s post history in the old thread for the greatest hits

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Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.

ijyt posted:

Move to China and get disappeared if you the CCP so much. :shrug:

quite the extraordinary rendition

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
friends i am going to make a very bold statement here:

the CCP

is bad

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

I'm sorry I started this.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Power Khan posted:

It's still there

All threads are china threads and always have been. Just look at this nine-dash line Radium wrote into the code and all will become clear.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

PetraCore posted:

I'm sorry I started this.

it happens every so often

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

PetraCore posted:

I'm sorry I started this.

a good thread being hosed up by fantastically moronic crypto-fascist shitheads masquerading as leftists is pretty appropriate for the china thread actually

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Fojar38 posted:

a good thread being hosed up by fantastically moronic crypto-fascist shitheads masquerading as leftists is pretty appropriate for the china thread actually

I'm still heading back to the real china thread, which is aptly named after best china.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Lol @ hating Muslims so much u become a ccp apologist

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Actually, I think you’ll find that oppression and ethnic replacement by the CCP in Tibet and Xinjiang are exactly the same as Obama deathpanels and the piss tape :smuggo:

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

svenkatesh posted:

Sorry, I see the light now.

The CPC really does have torture camps for the Uyghurs. Saddam Hussein really was using tractor-trailers as mobile chemical weapons factories. The ACA really does establish the creation of Obamacare Death Panels.

Mashallah, I’m so woke now.

You can stop posting now, we already know that you are very stupid and you can stop demonstrating your rear end-deep stupidity. Thank u 4 ur serviss

Pro PRC Laowai
Jun 14, 2018

svenkatesh posted:

Mashallah, I’m so woke now.

drat dude you got gang raped by the sexpats

They beat you to death with that big white cock

RIP

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Pro PRC Laowai posted:

drat dude you got gang raped by the sexpats

They beat you to death with that big white cock

RIP

its the eight nation alliance all over again except instead of boxers its a pasty suburban white guy from pennsylvania

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Fojar38 posted:

its the eight nation alliance all over again except instead of boxers its a pasty suburban white guy from pennsylvania

don't dox me or my international sexpat alliances please.

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
Chinese tourists have no manners!!

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Help me Haier you're our only hope!!!!! Please livepost a terrible date!!!

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
someone post the peanut brittle story, raise the tone a little

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
Why is it that every time there’s even the slightest disharmony people start bitching.

If someone is clearly being a mondo moron or just not talking in good faith then ignore them? Hell even those people are sometimes funny or interesting in their delusions or how the illustrate how some ideologues actually think.

You know what has never loving been interesting at all?
“Pull up thread!”
“Oh no”
“Old thread was better”

For fucks sake learn how to internet.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
And yes I’m aware of the irony of meaningless bitching about meaningless bitching but this is the last I’m saying of it and I’m not going to continue to say it for pages.

Now say poo poo about China or definitely-not-China China

I like my bopomofo keyboard a bunch because it looks cool that’s my not-China China post

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.

Tolkien minority posted:

Actually, I think you’ll find that oppression and ethnic replacement by the CCP in Tibet and Xinjiang are exactly the same as Obama deathpanels and the piss tape :smuggo:

p sure he was saying they’re products of propaganda and not equating their severity

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Cry Havoc posted:

p sure he was saying they’re products of propaganda and not equating their severity

I know what he was saying, but there is so much more evidence for oppression by the CCP that you’d have to be retarded or arguing in bad faith to make that argument

nong
Apr 20, 2016

Never Forget
The Century Of National Humiliation.

Coolguye posted:

friends i am going to make a very bold statement here:

the CCP

is bad

But it's better than the 'alternatives'!




Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
battle for azeroth looking good

svenkatesh
Sep 5, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Tolkien minority posted:

I know what he was saying, but there is so much more evidence for oppression by the CCP that you’d have to be retarded or arguing in bad faith to make that argument

So you knew what I was trying to say and still misrepresented my words? And I'm arguing in bad faith?

I'm out, have fun. It sounds like you should stick to getting world news from sources funded by the Broadcasting Board of Governors.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


svenkatesh posted:

So you knew what I was trying to say and still misrepresented my words? And I'm arguing in bad faith?

I'm out, have fun. It sounds like you should stick to getting world news from sources funded by the Broadcasting Board of Governors.

I didn’t misrepresent your words dumbass, you said that much like the deathpanels or chemical weapons in Iraq, that oppression by the ccp is a falsehood created by propaganda. This is such a monumentally stupid opinion that I was hoping you were arguing in bad faith because the alternative is you’re just retarded.

Like you seriously don’t think the ccp systematically oppressed ethnic minorities and it’s all just propaganda by evil China haters? Are you for real?

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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I'm pretty interested in the argument that the acts of genocide (cultural genocide is still genocide, svenkatesh, and it was genocide when it was done to Native Americans, too) are exaggerated propaganda, but also acting like the acts of terrorism that are, apparently, so rampantly committed by this ethnic minority that nearly the entire population needs to be de-radicalized is completely and utterly true.

It's not true, Svenkatesh. I can tell you that even without knowing the situation, because that there is propaganda. Pull your head out of your rear end.

svenkatesh
Sep 5, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Ah yes, those unsourced reports saying that the Chinese are forbidding Uyghurs from taking on Muslim names. Like LMAO, do you realize how stupid that sounds? Maybe the perfidious Chinese will make all the Uyghurs keep dogs inside their home next, since that would break Islam's standards of cleanliness. Muahahaha!!!

I also heard unsourced reports 8 years ago that POTUS was a Kenyan Muslim. Should I take those seriously too?

The Chinese suck, sure. I've already said that. These reports are just over-the-top ridiculous.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


svenkatesh posted:

Ah yes, those unsourced reports saying that the Chinese are forbidding Uyghurs from taking on Muslim names. Like LMAO, do you realize how stupid that sounds? Maybe the perfidious Chinese will make all the Uyghurs keep dogs inside their home next, since that would break Islam's standards of cleanliness. Muahahaha!!!

I also heard unsourced reports 8 years ago that POTUS was a Kenyan Muslim. Should I take those seriously too?

The Chinese suck, sure. I've already said that. These reports are just over-the-top ridiculous.

Yes, oppression by the CCP in Xinjiang and Tibet is literally on the same level as Obama being a Kenyan Muslim because this one thing about names you find hard to believe (it’s true btw, https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/25/china-bans-religious-names-for-muslims-babies-in-xinjiang https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/world/asia/china-xinjiang-ban-muslim-names-muhammad-jihad.amp.html https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/24/china-bans-many-muslim-baby-names-xinjiang )


You’re so incredibly dumb lol


(Or am I getting trolled and I’m the dumb one? gently caress!)

Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 30, 2018

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Yeah, but... do you really think stuff like that doesn't happen? Oppression of a religious and ethnic minority by criminalizing aspects of the religion while claiming if pressed that religion is just a thing you think so it's not a big deal is pretty common. It's not a uniquely ccp thing, nobody in this thread is acting like it is. I'm just really shocked that the stuff you're citing to explain why things are happening that, in your opinion, get twisted by propaganda into genocide is stuff that also sounds pretty dubious and doesn't justify the scale of what is plausibly and probably happening.

I also don't really understand your opinion about genocide. You're acting like the only form of genocide is violent pogroms and death camps. That's absolutely a form of genocide and one of the most viscerally horrifying, but genocide also includes wiping out cultures by removing children from parents and raising them in the dominant culture or forced marriages or the criminalization of cultural traditions that aren't harming anyone. And one form of genocide often feeds into and leads to another. Nobody goes from 0 to pogrom without a solid foundation of hatred and dehumanization first.

EDIT: I'm also not saying all the reports of human rights violations are 100% true. I don't know, I'm not there, and some things do get exaggerated or misinterpreted. I'm saying it doesn't sound ridiculous to me.

PetraCore fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 30, 2018

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
anyone want me to reach out to me ex, who is Uyghur and living back in urumqi, and ask her about all of this nonsense

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

svenkatesh posted:

Ah yes, those unsourced reports saying that the Chinese are forbidding Uyghurs from taking on Muslim names. Like LMAO, do you realize how stupid that sounds? Maybe the perfidious Chinese will make all the Uyghurs keep dogs inside their home next, since that would break Islam's standards of cleanliness. Muahahaha!!!

I also heard unsourced reports 8 years ago that POTUS was a Kenyan Muslim. Should I take those seriously too?

The Chinese suck, sure. I've already said that. These reports are just over-the-top ridiculous.

So you don’t think Obama is a secret Muslim? Gotta make that clear.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
actually the only way I could reach out to her is on WeChat and I don't want her to get disappeared as I actually still care about her, so forget it

svenkatesh
Sep 5, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Tolkien minority posted:

Yes, oppression by the CCP in Xinjiang and Tibet is literally on the same level as Obama being a Kenyan Muslim because this one thing about names you find hard to believe (it’s true btw, https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/25/china-bans-religious-names-for-muslims-babies-in-xinjiang https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/world/asia/china-xinjiang-ban-muslim-names-muhammad-jihad.amp.html https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/24/china-bans-many-muslim-baby-names-xinjiang )


You’re so incredibly dumb lol


(Or am I getting trolled and I’m the dumb one? gently caress!)

Did you read those articles? They source Radio Free Asia...

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


svenkatesh posted:

Did you read those articles? They source Radio Free Asia...

China doesn’t even deny banning the names and those are 3 random articles I picked of like 20 when I googled it. You’re still hyperfocusing on this one point with no actual evidence it’s wrong, and completely ignoring the vast, VAST evidence of human rights abuses in Xinjiang and Tibet

Pro PRC Laowai
Jun 14, 2018
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/china-s-xinjiang-province-a-surveillance-state-unlike-any-the-world-has-ever-seen-a-1220174.html


I’ll help you filthy sexpats out, here’s a recent article without reliance on RFA

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012



This is clearly anti Chinese western imperialist propaganda, I bet you think obama is a Muslim and Kubrick shot the moon landing

svenkatesh
Sep 5, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Most unfortunate. This article doesn't have any of the hyperbolic fascism that other posters in this thread, and those RFA articles, are referring to (like banning names [the idea of which still makes me literally laugh out loud]).

The article also notes that they're implementing the same social credit system in Xinjiang as they are in the rest of China. Now, if you were to say that the criteria the Chinese use to determine that score are unfairly prejudiced against the Uyghurs, I'd agree.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


*reads article detailing literally the most opressive police state in the world, up there if not beyond North Korea*

“Hmm, most unfortunate. Quite quite.”

*sips wine, adjusts monocle*

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

svenkatesh posted:

Most unfortunate. This article doesn't have any of the hyperbolic fascism that other posters in this thread, and those RFA articles, are referring to (like banning names [the idea of which still makes me literally laugh out loud]).

The article also notes that they're implementing the same social credit system in Xinjiang as they are in the rest of China. Now, if you were to say that the criteria the Chinese use to determine that score are unfairly prejudiced against the Uyghurs, I'd agree.

I’d like you to answer my question about whether you think Barack Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim.

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svenkatesh
Sep 5, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Tolkien minority posted:

human rights abuses in Xinjiang and Tibet


Yes, there are human rights abuses in both. I'm not denying it. I'm just saying that you shouldn't just swallow obvious propaganda. Banning names hahah.

FWIW Tibet is a travesty since it had a period of independence before it was invaded by the CCP. Tibet should absolutely be given full autonomy and the Dalai Lama must be restored to his full glory.

e: No, of course Obama is not a Kenyan Muslim. How retarded are you that you couldn't understand that I was using that for a reductio ad absurdum argument?

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