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Papercut posted:Seriously. Watching rugby is so refreshing compared to the NFL just because the rules are about a billion times more straightforward. I still watch football but the rulebook seems to get more capricious and inscrutable to the average viewer every year. The other thing is rugby style tackles are also much more consistent at bringing the ball carrier down. The thing is players want to make this highlight real hit or cause a fumble, and while those are cool and all, for every one of those hits, you have 10 where the tackler straight up fails to make an impact and next thing you know the carrier is 10 yards downfield.
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iospace posted:The other thing is rugby style tackles are also much more consistent at bringing the ball carrier down. The thing is players want to make this highlight real hit or cause a fumble, and while those are cool and all, for every one of those hits, you have 10 where the tackler straight up fails to make an impact and next thing you know the carrier is 10 yards downfield. Unless it's brits trying to tackle fijians in the rugby 7s at the last Olympics. If you guys haven't seen that gold medal game it's on YouTube and is amazjng
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mastershakeman posted:Unless it's brits trying to tackle fijians in the rugby 7s at the last Olympics. If you guys haven't seen that gold medal game it's on YouTube and is amazjng yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbjBodEddw
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iospace posted:The other thing is rugby style tackles are also much more consistent at bringing the ball carrier down. The thing is players want to make this highlight real hit or cause a fumble, and while those are cool and all, for every one of those hits, you have 10 where the tackler straight up fails to make an impact and next thing you know the carrier is 10 yards downfield. Massive hits get you a reputation as a hard nosed tackler which in turns gets you more money on your next contract
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Rugby tackles aren't the end-all be-all of this for a couple reasons: 1. Rugby tackles are the way they are because rugby is a game of possession, not of yardage. This is true more for union than league but the places that lead to harder hits in league lead to harder hits in union too. Because it's a game of possession, the goal of a rugby tackle is to stop the person with the ball and ideally swing them to the ground behind you, so your team can get the ball. It's like those annoying NFL tackles where a guy is going for a strip rather than a tackle and the runner gets an extra five yards all the time - but that's fine in rugby because to a first approximation those five yards don't matter. This isn't true in the NFL without changing the rules. 2. When inches actually do matter, like on the goal line, you can see some nasty poo poo 3. It all stems anyway from not having helmets Nothing will change as long as players have helmets and inches matter. That's just how the sport works.
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Yeah I was gonna mention that switching to rugby tackling would give the ball carrier a free yard or two (or more) on every single carry. You don't win doing that under the current rules
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iospace posted:The other thing is rugby style tackles are also much more consistent at bringing the ball carrier down. The thing is players want to make this highlight real hit or cause a fumble, and while those are cool and all, for every one of those hits, you have 10 where the tackler straight up fails to make an impact and next thing you know the carrier is 10 yards downfield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgbrxbAEeHA
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First Rogers, then Mahomes, now Mariota. When are editors going to start saying this isn't a story? quote:What to think of Marcus Mariota’s Interceptions at Titans Training Camp https://atozsportsnashville.com/think-marcus-mariotas-interceptions-titans-training-camp/
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corn on the cop posted:hoo boy this new penalty is loving abysmal It's making roquan Smith look even smarter about fighting over this
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So was this year's Hall of Fame game better or worse than just having the whole thing cancelled like last year?SKULL.GIF posted:Someone crunched the numbers and found out that preseason does matter: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/940aue/oc_why_44_points_scored_is_the_magic_number_for/ While interesting, this is a good example of someone picking an arbitrary point and then extrapolating things out of it and thinking that means something (it doesn't). I guarantee if you had set the line at say 50 points or 40 this analysis would all fall apart. A much, much better thing to have done would've been to put points scored into a regression against number of wins (have playoff wins count as double or something). Then you'd know you aren't just picking lucky break points. Good idea, bad execution 2/5. axeil fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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axeil posted:So was this year's Hall of Fame game better or worse than just having the whole thing cancelled like last year? Do you like tons of interceptions?
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FizFashizzle posted:Do you like tons of interceptions? Nah, I like when my quarterbacks catch passes 
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axeil posted:Nah, I like when my quarterbacks catch passes Same but their own passes.
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Not the brightest move https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1025461072319242240?s=19
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kiimo posted:First Rogers, then Mahomes, now Mariota. Interceptions in TC aren't a big deal when my quarterback throws them!
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I watched a bunch of HoF game highlights and Lamarr JAckson gonna RGIII himself out the league it he doesnt start trying to avoid some of those hits on his running plays
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Hot Diggity! posted:Not the brightest move Andrew Sendejo is a human missile that flies blindly toward the football. If it makes you feel better, his is an equal opportunity form of violence that frequently leads to him injuring other Vikings players.
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I'm sure Lamar will look exactly the same in his entire career as he did last night in the 2nd half of his first preseason game in the NFL
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kiimo posted:First Rogers, then Mahomes, now Mariota. Tannehill threw 3 yesterday and it was a big Armando story
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Blowjob Overtime posted:Andrew Sendejo is a human missile that flies blindly toward the football. If it makes you feel better, his is an equal opportunity form of violence that frequently leads to him injuring other Vikings players. Oh, so he's the next Brandon Meriweather? 
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Interceptions don't matter in training camp or the preseason because that's when you should be finding out what you can get away with with your receivers. Preseason is just really weird because the stuff that gets reported on them is just irrelevant. What matters is who's working with the #1's, what backups are being played out of position / asked to do what they haven't shown they can before (ie, pass rush specialists in coverage etc), or special teams, because the team is trying to figure out what their injury plans are and what they might need to shore up. Like, a LB who completely shits the bed in coverage all over the place in a preseason game might be more likely to make the team then one that looks servicable, if that first guy is a solid pass rusher or run stuffer, because they needed to know if he could hack it in coverage if need be. Also I don't think any player's ever won a job on their team in the 2nd half of the 4th preseason game. that seems to be where every guy getting cut ends up along with a few backups being forced to play out the death march.
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https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/1025464082504278021 https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1025350011972931585
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Hot Diggity! posted:Not the brightest move He has opinions. https://twitter.com/Asendejo/status/1025466588424597504
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He lead with his facemask into the dirt here. https://youtu.be/2-RgQJddXJc
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Sandejo is a reckless player and I wish the Vikings would find a better safety to pair with Smith.
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A reckless football player oh my what shall we do. I kind of think he's right. I'm not convinced this rule as called in the hall of fame game makes anyone safer and makes football less watchable. You guys love flags don't you? Everyone loves flags Play fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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Play posted:A reckless football player oh my what shall we do. yea I just kinda don't think this rule will do anything but give yet another reason for flags to fly, dumb stunts aside and all people should probably make fun of it
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WHOOPS posted:Sandejo is a wreckless player and I wish the Vikings would find a better safety to pair with Smith. If you told me five years ago that he would still be the second safety going into 2018 I would not believe it. He's good for about two interceptions a year by virtue of accidentally being in the right place at the right time, but he (attempts) tackles like his arms don't even function and it's infuriating how often he just bounces off of the ball carrier.
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the rule is dumb as poo poo and so is Sandejo. they aren’t incompatible thoughts, especially cause his style of play makes him a liability on the field. he makes good plays occasionally but not enough to justify the way he throws himself around.
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Kalli posted:Interceptions don't matter in training camp or the preseason because that's when you should be finding out what you can get away with with your receivers.
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Of course crime did go up a little in Atlanta. https://twitter.com/jamisonhensley/status/1025465983274770432
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I think I hate ray Lewis more than any player in nfl history except for cheating tom brady
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Leon Einstein posted:Rodgers is absolutely testing his receivers, and his picks are no reason to worry at all. It was also reported that he threw like a 26 yard no look pass TD in the two minute drill. I really hope that's a new move in his skill set. Has that ever even been a thing in the NFL? that's bait edit: I listened to a podcast with that guy last summer and he had horrible opinions and rankings. edit 2 lordy it's an epidemic quote:1. We’re only seven practices into training camp and Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott continues to struggle. Thursday’s practice featured another day of inconsistent play from Prescott. He displays a strong arm, smarts and the ability to move well in the pocket. He’s just not making the necessary plays. kiimo fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/status/1025464785842843648?s=20 Don't pick up Jameis, Mo
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Ehud posted:I think I hate ray Lewis more than any player in nfl history except for cheating tom brady u mad
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Ehud posted:I think I hate ray Lewis more than any player in nfl history except for cheating tom brady That's odd
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I can’t possibly be the only one who finds him incredibly annoying also he murdered a guy
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Ehud posted:I can’t possibly be the only one who finds him incredibly annoying I think his religious schtick is stupid as gently caress.
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Colostomy Bag posted:I wonder how many times Collinsworth will throw his hands up in the air in exasperation "I just don't know anymore". Collinsworth Protests about Rules = (Games lost by Patriots)(Margin of defeat)
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Ehud posted:I can’t possibly be the only one who finds him incredibly annoying pubic works project posted:I think his religious schtick is stupid as gently caress. I agree with both of these to be honest but ringzzzzzzzzzzz
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