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Flowers For Algeria posted:If you call the mud that is industrially shat out by Americans "culture", then that’s your problem. I’m certain you’d also call a Guy Fieri burger "gastronomy". Interesting. You are from where again?
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Mulva posted:Interesting. I maintain that the bagpipe is not an instrument so much as a form of protest against the Scottish condition. When the weather sucks, you're ruled by the English, and you have plenty of whisky, turning a sheep inside out and dancing to the resultant racket probably seems logical
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Historically speaking humans have been terrified of loud noises since the dawn of time, so much so that they invented gods to assuage their fears. The louder and more terrifying the noise, the more powerful the gods, that’s how Zeus got in charge. But then when the humans got the ability to make loud noises, the nuttiest of them started feeling like gods and developed a huge superiority complex linked to their noisemakers. Yet another reason why suppressors should be unregulated, they will lead the gun community from cave-dwelling noise worship to an enlightened and secular shooting culture.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:A good post that I strongly disagree with almost every part of. there is no right to own a firearm. zapplez posted:Suicide is a red herring when it comes to gun control. There are many countries with vastly higher suicide rates with severely limited access to firearms. People use the best available tool, if a firearm isn't available and they want to kill themselves, they are still going to keep trying till they do it. they do not. suicidal ideation is oftentimes transient. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:there is no right to own a firearm.
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there is a false belief in one but it’s relatively recent. doesn’t become true just because standard modelers repeated it without evidence for decades and the supreme court sometimes makes mistakes.
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Groovelord Neato posted:there is a false belief in one but it’s relatively recent. doesn’t become true just because standard modelers repeated it without evidence for decades and the supreme court sometimes makes mistakes. Oh, like the right to gay marriage or abortion? I know some folks will be glad you know support rolling things back. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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i was thinking more dred scott v sanford or bush v gore.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:There is though. We’ve already had this discussion before. Your statement is a meaningless tautology that offers no insight into anything. "There is no right to own a firearm" means that there is nothing in the human condition that demands that human beings should own guns. You never told me how my proposals would price you out of your hobby. Care to elaborate with actual figures or were you just low-effort trolling and you just didn’t want to say "but I don’t wanna!"?
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Flowers For Algeria posted:We’ve already had this discussion before. Your statement is a meaningless tautology that offers no insight into anything. As for the rest give me a couple hours to not be workposting. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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the interpretation that the second amendment enshrines an individual’s right to own a firearm isn’t much older than i am. even accepting the ahistorical standard model interpretation, the idea that we cannot have strict gun control is ridiculous.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the interpretation that the second amendment enshrines an individual’s right to own a firearm isn’t much older than i am. Jesus christ how old are you
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zapplez posted:Jesus christ how old are you Heller is 10 years old
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Cease to Hope posted:Heller is 10 years old So is he 12?
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zapplez posted:Jesus christ how old are you the standard model started gaining traction in the 80s.
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zapplez posted:Jesus christ how old are you 2023.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:You never told me how my proposals would price you out of your hobby. Care to elaborate with actual figures or were you just low-effort trolling and you just didn’t want to say "but I don’t wanna!"? Flowers For Algeria posted:Such a license can only be obtained if you show proof of regular attendance at a range Range visits aren't free. $30-$50 an hour is common in my area. Depending on your definition of "regular" that quickly becomes unaffordable. Flowers For Algeria posted:with specific classes Flowers For Algeria posted:get a positive opinion from the gun range manager Flowers For Algeria posted:as well as one from a doctor Flowers For Algeria posted:own a safe Flowers For Algeria posted:or store your gun at the range And we're assuming licensing is free (it won't be) and timely (it won't be this either). Altogether that's a shitload of money, the recurring cost alone is basically a car payment. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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japan has the best gun laws.
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Groovelord Neato posted:japan has the best gun laws. Gundams will, of course, be subsidized.
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Groovelord Neato posted:japan has the best gun laws. And yet their suicide rate is immensely higher than America. Weird.
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zapplez posted:And yet their suicide rate is immensely higher than America. Weird. guns drive up suicide success rates, not suicide attempt rates
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Cease to Hope posted:guns drive up suicide success rates, not suicide attempt rates but japan also has p high suicide successes?
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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CongoJack posted:If adopting Japanese gun laws mean we also get a Katana registry I swear to god The only way to stop a bad guy with a katana is a good guy with Hanzo steel
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suck my woke dick posted:but japan also has p high suicide successes? relative to attempts? rhetorical question. no way to know.
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What causes a country like Venezuela to have 700% lower access to firearms than the USA but have a homicide rate that's 800% higher. Why does Jamaica have 8 firearms per 100 by capita and the USA has 81. But Jamaica has 6 times the rate of homicides? Why is Japans suicide rate (successful only) over 50% higher than Americas suicide rate. When American has 81 guns per 100, and japan has 0.3 per 100 people. Maybe, socioeconomic issues,cultural issues (moreso when it comes to suicide being accepted), but most importantly income inequality, poverty , and lack of good jobs makes people willing to commit crimes to survive, in which they need to be armed. Thats why the rural population has a multitude more guns than the urban population, but yet only makes a small fraction of gun crimes. We need to fix the communities. Not the guns.
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zapplez posted:What causes a country like Venezuela to have 700% lower access to firearms than the USA but have a homicide rate that's 800% higher. Why does Jamaica have 8 firearms per 100 by capita and the USA has 81. But Jamaica has 6 times the rate of homicides? poverty and population density but congratulations on your new job writing op-eds for the federalist
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zapplez posted:What causes a country like Venezuela to have 700% lower access to firearms than the USA but have a homicide rate that's 800% higher. Why does Jamaica have 8 firearms per 100 by capita and the USA has 81. But Jamaica has 6 times the rate of homicides? Just because one thing causes Bad Thing A to go up doesn't mean it's the only thing that causes Bad Thing A to go up. If Venezuela had America's gun ownership rate there would already be a civil war there.
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I make one goddamn serious post and now there's a katana registry. loving America man.
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zapplez posted:What causes a country like Venezuela to have 700% lower access to firearms than the USA but have a homicide rate that's 800% higher. Why does Jamaica have 8 firearms per 100 by capita and the USA has 81. But Jamaica has 6 times the rate of homicides? A good post. How do you propose we tackle this issue? Did you know there's something highly correlated with poverty that costs communities close to 3 billion a year in direct costs and hundreds of billions in indirect costs such as decreased home values? Hint, it's gun violence. Perhaps tackling that would be a good start to reducing poverty.
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LeoMarr posted:We should ban cars to stop drunk driving related incidents Maybe gun licensure, registration, and insurance is a better step in the right direction.
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Guns are fuckin' great.
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Panzeh posted:Guns are fuckin' great.
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LeeMajors posted:Maybe gun licensure, registration, and insurance is a better step in the right direction. Buy an umbrella policy. Healthcare is available for purchase to all citizens gun licensure? for what train people how to use guns so then what they can mass shooting with government sponsored training? If I drove a tank or shot hellfires at afghanis does that mean I can display adequecy enough to own a tank? And too bad its gonna be a 6/3 R / D in the SC soon. So gun control's going byebye pal. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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LeoMarr posted:Buy an umbrella policy. So where so will RBG or Breyer resign/die before Trump wins in 2020 or after? I'm going with Breyer dies unexpectedly in the next 2 years and, then after Trump wins in 2020 RBG will retire to enjoy what's left of her life knowing that staying on the court any longer would be futile. Court stays 7-2 for 20 more years as Thomas is too mean to die. At least Sacalia had a sense of humor. And thus Trump will deliver the final repudiation of Obama by making his 2 scotus picks irrelevant. KingFisher fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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KingFisher posted:So where so will RBG or Breyer resign/die before Trump wins in 2020 or after? there's nothing specifying 9 supreme court justices if the place gets packed with 7 of 9 (  ) senile fucktards and republicans continue to be obstinate assholes putting profit before party before country (that's a given) then i wouldn't let recent convention restrain me from just packing the court with another 10 sane people. america isn't britain with its ~unwritten constitution and customary parliamentary rulebook (that actually can't be enforced if even a single politician stops caring)~ bullshit
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skeet decorator posted:A good post. How do you propose we tackle this issue? Tax reform and business reform, and hugely increased social safety net and affordable housing would do immensely better at improving poverty than trying to tackle a symptom of poverty like violence.
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suck my woke dick posted:there's nothing specifying 9 supreme court justices Thanks for pushing the Overton window on court packing. I'm sure nothing could go wrong if it looks like Trump might lose the election and he wants to "make his mark" before his term is up.
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KingFisher posted:Thanks for pushing the Overton window on court packing. I'm sure nothing could go wrong if it looks like Trump might lose the election and he wants to "make his mark" before his term is up. i mean if he packs the court with 50 judges we can just pack it with 150 right back within only a few electoral cycles every american will be serving on the supreme court, twice
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