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Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

Simple. Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time

Grimey Drawer

Good books.

Loved when that guy got literally stabbed by an astral spiky horror. Also feelings

Discuss.

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P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007



The first book sets up a super interesting cliffhanger mystery that the second couldn't help but disappoint in revealing. I haven't read anything past that but I heard it gets bad somewhere.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Sometimes I just get tired of thinking of all the things that I do not wanna do. All the things that I do not wanna be. Places I do not wanna go.


It's been a while since I read them, but the answer to the grand mystery of "what the hell is going on" is that in the far distant future there is a war between a human god and a machine god. Those 2 gods are using time travel as part of their war, and the Shrike is an agent of the machine god, constantly moving backwards in time.

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013



I just read the first one.

It was fine.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
I just had an epiphany: the internet is useless!


Man i heard the author is like a mondo racist now

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
I just had an epiphany: the internet is useless!


The first one was really good tho!

Angela Lansburial
Feb 9, 2005
Nothing to see here.


kinda f'ed up that having a cruciform for too long makes your dick fall off, imo

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Sometimes I just get tired of thinking of all the things that I do not wanna do. All the things that I do not wanna be. Places I do not wanna go.


Vim Fuego posted:

Man i heard the author is like a mondo racist now

Yeah. I got Flashback from the library with no expectations, just noticed it was by the same writer. Almost could not finish the book, it was so loving bad. Obama tanked the US economy due to socialism so the Japanese had to take over the country. I'm not making that up. There's also a bunch of stuff about memory altering drugs, rugged survivalists manufacturing guns for the revolution, and Mexico taking over California with a "reconquista" movement.

kzin602
May 14, 2007

Hot mess tranny? *slap*

Grimey Drawer

doverhog posted:

Yeah. I got Flashback from the library with no expectations, just noticed it was by the same writer. Almost could not finish the book, it was so loving bad. Obama tanked the US economy due to socialism so the Japanese had to take over the country. I'm not making that up. There's also a bunch of stuff about memory altering drugs, rugged survivalists manufacturing guns for the revolution, and Mexico taking over California with a "reconquista" movement.

The four Hyperion books were pretty good but I had to stop at the point in Ilium when the Muslim zombies started crawling all over Neo-Jerusalem. I think that's the point where the author had his super racist stroke or whatever the hell happened.

flyingporcupine
Feb 21, 2010


Huh, I didnt know there were more than two. I found those at this used book store when I was like 12 and completely gobbled that poo poo up. That and the Otherland books were my entire summer because I was super cool and had tons of friends.

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014



Vim Fuego posted:

Man i heard the author is like a mondo racist now

I dunno, but his novels Carrion Comfort and Summer Of Night are two of the best modern horror fiction stories I've read. So lovely politics and gross personal viewpoints aside, the dude is an awesome writer.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Sometimes I just get tired of thinking of all the things that I do not wanna do. All the things that I do not wanna be. Places I do not wanna go.


I know he's a good writer, really liked Hyperion. That's why Flashback was such a shock. Like, I literally put the book down in disgust multiple times.

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014



The Terror was a loving slog to get through though.

kzin602
May 14, 2007

Hot mess tranny? *slap*

Grimey Drawer

flyingporcupine posted:

Huh, I didnt know there were more than two. I found those at this used book store when I was like 12 and completely gobbled that poo poo up. That and the Otherland books were my entire summer because I was super cool and had tons of friends.

There's two other books in the Hyperion setting that take place well after the events of Hyperion similar to the (original author's) Dune sequels, they have a fun flow of an adventurer travelling to strange planets. There's some cliches in there but the setting is so strange it somehow works.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

It's also wet on the bottom.


super macho dude posted:

The Terror was a loving slog to get through though.

I thought the show was really good, so the book is maybe not worth reading? I was considering getting it on audible.

Malkof
Oct 13, 2001

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.



super macho dude posted:

The Terror was a loving slog to get through though.
Oh boy I hope you like reading about snow.

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014



HugeGrossBurrito posted:

I thought the show was really good, so the book is maybe not worth reading? I was considering getting it on audible.

I did watch any of the show, but give the audiobook a whirl, why not.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

It's also wet on the bottom.


Malkof posted:

Oh boy I hope you like reading about snow.
I do actually, I've read drat near every non fiction book about mountaineering that was posted in the old Everest threads.

super macho dude posted:

I did watch any of the show, but give the audiobook a whirl, why not.

Done haha.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014



Vim Fuego posted:

Man i heard the author is like a mondo racist now

He got 9/11 brokebrain, basically.

Mordja fucked around with this message at Aug 10, 2018 around 01:07

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Sometimes I just get tired of thinking of all the things that I do not wanna do. All the things that I do not wanna be. Places I do not wanna go.


Mordja posted:

His got 9/11 brokebrain, basically.

He must have had a stroke or something 911 was not some magic event it was just some buildings that collapsed c'mon

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


Mordja posted:

His got 9/11 brokebrain, basically.

I just finished reading Ilium a couple weeks ago. The muslim zombies thing must've been in the sequel, but there's definitely a really jarring scene/memory by one of the main characters reminiscing about 9/11 and it was super bad. I guess it wasn't that bad of a book overall because I'm listening to the terror audiobook now. It's a slog for sure but it's an atmospheric slog. The narrator is talented as hell.

Vato
Jan 14, 2018



Speak English so's I can understand you.

Pawn 17
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Grimey Drawer

It's been a long time since I read them, but still one of my favorite sci-fi series ever. I really need some of those portal room dividers cause I like the idea of waking up on a beachfront property and then walking to the bathroom to take a poo poo on top of a mountain.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


could shrike beat lady of pain

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


super macho dude posted:

The Terror was a loving slog to get through though.

the tv show owned but the supernatural stuff was prolly the worst part of it

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000



Dinosaur Gum

idgi that first book was good because of the stories but then it turned into some weirdo back to the future timecop poo poo and the shrike wasnt as cool as it was led up to be

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

It's also wet on the bottom.


Milo and POTUS posted:

the tv show owned but the supernatural stuff was prolly the worst part of it

That poo poo was so badass but yeah

uncivil mittens
Nov 1, 2010


First book is good and interesting and refreshing; 2nd is fine; 3rd is bad made worse by wasting everything good in the first 2, and the 4th is one of the worst books I've finished, so terrible it's a joy to read. I can't believe the same dude wrote both 4 and the story about the kid aging backwards, did he fall off a ladder or something part way through writing book 2?

Vyacheslav
Aug 4, 2003


These books taught me who Keats was, so I guess that's a net positive.

Also the ousters were really cool.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



The first two books were a cool space opera with some memorable side plots. Books three and four - middle aged man awaits little girl hes raising to travel back in time so he can bone her, ugh.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010



wait, there were more than one??

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

all I remember from the first one was the military dude loving the Shrike and then just before cumming he pulls out and the vagina has grown teeth/thorns and he watches his jizz splatter on the bloodied sand and some dead dudes hand in slow mo cause of future war technology/drugs.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010



doverhog posted:

I know he's a good writer, really liked Hyperion. That's why Flashback was such a shock. Like, I literally put the book down in disgust multiple times.
I did not read flashback but a wikipedia search reveals the main character's name is Bottom which makes the book funny.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Unexpected.


Theyre terrible, every book hes written since the first one has been a step down to the level of utter poo poo where he currently resides. Just my opinion.

Rasta_Al
Jul 14, 2001

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.


Fun Shoe

super macho dude posted:

The Terror was a loving slog to get through though.

I read it when I was out to sea, so I thought it was pretty drat cool & super spooky

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006
leading helpless teens astray

I had to finish the books because I wanted to know what the Shrike really was and what its deal was and I was disappointed and hated myself for reading this dumb rear end crap that had no tidy ending.

If you want to read some mysterious lyrical science fiction that never has a tidy ending that isn't complete crap read Jeff VanderMeer novels.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001



Outrageous Lumpwad

doverhog posted:

Yeah. I got Flashback from the library with no expectations, just noticed it was by the same writer. Almost could not finish the book, it was so loving bad. Obama tanked the US economy due to socialism so the Japanese had to take over the country. I'm not making that up. There's also a bunch of stuff about memory altering drugs, rugged survivalists manufacturing guns for the revolution, and Mexico taking over California with a "reconquista" movement.

The idea of Flashback as a drug that lets you viscerally remember certain events is great. It's a drug I could easily see myself getting addicted to.

That novel is not good.

Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

give more people whale avatars (not me tho)

Pillbug

first book was loving amazing. probably top 5 scifi world building. and then it goes down hill.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006



Nap Ghost

the first one I liked, the second one was about an old man scared of technology.

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Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

give more people whale avatars (not me tho)

Pillbug

best tale from the first one??? probably the soldier's tale.

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