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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Ammanas posted:

The entire thing owing up to 'pharma exec killing to protect profits' was pretty tasty though.

Not quite, it was "doctor gets massive payout from pharma company to falsify a clinical trial results to get an actually lethal drug approved." Kimble had discovered that the drug was actually causing liver failure, but Nichols was getting paid by Devlin MacGregor, so Nichols orchestrated the murder of the other doctor (Lentz?) and tried to have Kimble killed too.

The whole "pharma companies paying doctors to jimmy the results of clinical trials, or giving payouts for prescribing drugs a certain number of times," thing is actually a real, genuine problem in the hosed-up mess that is healthcare in the United States. A semi-recent case was Bextra, which was originally approved by the FDA as an NSAID (like Tylenol, Advil, etc.). Well, Pfizer concealed from the FDA that the way it interacted with the body (I think its metabolization through the liver) could literally cause people to have heart attacks. There wound up being huge lawsuits, people went to jail, etc. Another one was Baycol, which was marketed as a treatment for high cholesterol; Bayer paid out something like a billion dollars in litigation because they had concealed that the drug had a strong possibility of causing kidney failure (I think there were something like more than a hundred thousand deaths ultimately connected to it).

Timby fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 10, 2018

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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I still would have liked to see Richard Jordan's take on Dr. Nichols. :(

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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There were a bunch of articles that came out around its release, and then some post-mortems, that talked about what an absolute clusterfuck the making of the movie was. Jones was his prickish self that he is when he's only doing a movie for a paycheck (he was the same way on the Men in Black sequels). Stuart Baird was a second-time director who had absolutely no clue what he was doing. And basically every time RDJ came to the set, he was in no condition to work, having either done a bunch of cocaine or shot up smack in his trailer, which resulted in the rest of the cast absolutely hating him.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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James Woods Fan posted:

Remember watching this like ten years ago and thinking it was way better that I expected. Glad to see it getting love. US Marshals is so bad.

Part of the reason The Fugitive is so great is that it's perfectly edited and doesn't waste a single minute of its running time, and it has some brilliant fakeouts, like when Cosmo walks into the marshals' office and said, "Okay, Sammy, we got him, he's shacked up with a gal in Whiting," you think "oh poo poo," and it turns out they're talking about going to go bust Eddie Bo Smith's character, and then a little later the house where Kimble's staying gets raided and once again you think "oh poo poo," and it turns out they're busting the landlady's son for child porn. The pacing is relentless but every now and again you get a brief moment to breathe, like the "hinky" conversation in the lobby at the Cook County Courthouse, but then it picks up again.

It's also perfectly cast, from Ford and Jones to guys like Joey Pants and Daniel Roebuck doing great supporting work, Andreas Katsulas was always a treasure in everything he did, to even the little bit parts like Richard Riehle and his "... he might have got away" after the train crash, and Jeroen Krabbé is just so magnificent (even though, as I said above, I would have liked to see what Richard Jordan would have done with the role).

Edit: I've had the Blu-ray sitting unopened on my shelf for over a year. I'm watching it tonight.

Timby fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Aug 11, 2018

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Ammanas posted:

I remember liking US Marshalls. Everyone in it is an rear end in a top hat, the story is unnecessarily convoluted but the charisma of the cast keeps things moving.

The interplay between Jones and Pantoliano is the only thing that keeps it moving.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Doing my promised re-watch, and Jesus, James Newton Howard deserved to have a more prolific career. Dude's score is amazing.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Sid Vicious posted:

I have probably watched the scene of Kimbell diving off the dam for as long as the entire run time of this movie because I just love it so much, but I've only watched the whole film twice

You should watch it again. It's just that good. And the first shot, the initial one, of Kimble jumping, is actually and legitimately Harrison Ford. (They used dummies for the rest.)

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Sid Vicious posted:

I actually just watched it a couple weeks ago because my buddy wanted to watch it and then I found the dam clip on YouTube and have watched it oh 150 times since then.

:clint: GUY DID A PETER PAN RIGHT OFF OF THIS DAM JUST NOW, BOOM

:v: Can we do home now?

:clint: NO.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Narzack posted:

Man, I don't know why, but I thought he said that to him in the car at the end.

The line gets reprised. Gerard lets Kimble out of his cuffs and gives him an icepack, Kimble says, "I thought you didn't care." There's a beat, then Gerard says, completely straight-faced, "I don't." Another beat, then he grins and says, "Don't tell anyone, okay?"

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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precision posted:

I definitely did not remember how young and handsome Tommy Lee looked :swoon:

And thus began that span of a few years in the '90s when studios did their damnedest to make "Tommy Lee Jones, action movie star" a thing.

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