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skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Phil Moscowitz posted:

I love that there are two versions of the game—theres the version I play with my 6 year old, where I work on the ranch, go into town to watch shows, and ride out on weeklong hunting and fishing trips and see the countryside.

Then there’s the other game where I rob everyone on the train, dynamite stagecoaches and police stations, murder camps full of insane cannibals, and generally shoot people for not waving back at me when I say howdy.

Woody's Roundup in the streets, Blood Meridian in the sheets.

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skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


ICMB posted:

Apparently the rumor is that RDR2 for PC will be announced in a few weeks, and will be coming out via the Epic Games Launcher on July 9th.

Great, I got a PS4 last week, a good portion of the motivation was to play this game.

Although that means I don't have to use EGS and could buy this used.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I miss being able to make tons of money off poker

They really should add a high stakes casino in Saint Denis or something, even just in the epilogue where money is whatever.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


ThomasPaine posted:

Where the gently caress do I find moose, I spent hours looking all last night.

Hunt for something else and it will find you.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I still have 300 bucks in bounty because of that jerkoff.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


In Valentine I got into a fist fight with someone and the police just told me to go away.


I was transporting a lovely brown thoroughbred to the stable to save and Lemoyne raiders jumped and chased him away

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Speaking of, sometimes the game won't let me ID what kind of horse or animal I'm looking at even with binoculars fairly close in. Is there something I'm missing?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I found one near Strawberry of all places, in the woods.

Had a ball with it. Opened with Molotovs (they ain’t white anymore ), rushed at survivors with a knife, saved the best for last with a lasso. There’s no gas can in this game like GTA, so I dragged him behind my horse.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I finally found the eugenics guy in Saint Denis.

Was riding out of town to get my BTK on and I accidentally went in the stable and he was gone

Luckily I heard he respawns.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Spalec posted:

Pretty sure when I murdered all the KKK members with a stick of dynamite I didn't lose any honor either.


You actually gain honor.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Sort of spoilery but, you're a gang of outlaws and bank robbery is probably inevitable.

You will get a bank robbery mission at some point. Make sure you get all the safes as it's dark in there, the gang will be pressuring you to leave, and will happily let you walk out without getting all the money. It's the biggest score in the game and you probably want get all of it.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I’m at the epilogue and I miss Arthur even if I did beat RDR1 and like the new old area. Wish you could switch between them like GTA5

Arthur’s accent is the best. “Who’s gonna joan me for some POKAH!”

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


ThomasPaine posted:

Kinda dumb that Blackwater looks identical between the main game and epilogue when there's construction everywhere, imo

They were probably banking on us not getting close enough to see. I got a hundred yards in and got jumped immediately in like Chapter 2 and never went back.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Ugato posted:

Fe: wasn’t really what I planned for this post initially but I guess small thing about my perspective of the end of the game:

The money in game is kind of all over the place. In some cases it feels pretty accurate, but then they went very videogamey with the prices and the resulting amounts of money they gave you for crimes and activities. I looked it up afterward and stuff like the $3 bowl of soup is equivalent to $100 today. I’m not an expert on inflation or anything but it was kind of jarring enough to me to take me out of the game a bit, even without knowing the exact figures. I had about $5,000 saved up at one point as Arthur which is roughly ~$130,000 today. If they had even $100,000 in black water, that’s nearly 3 million.

The idea that they couldn’t get away on what they had was kind of ridiculous and definitely stood out to me at the time. Making the story be about “we need more money” constantly when I couldn’t need money less is definitely jarring. They certainly should have made the game stop being about money at some point.

On the point of RDR1 - I haven’t played it, so I can’t compare the two. I will say that repeating a tragedy doesn’t sound like a recipe for success. I thoroughly enjoyed the story of Arthur and seeing John get out alive and have (even temporary) success felt like a nice touch even if it was unnecessary. I probably wouldn’t even have played as Marsten if the game didn’t ramp up just how lovely Dutch and Micah were and offering no gratification whatsoever for how much you suffer through before Arthur dies, though. And I get it. They really wanted a carrot to keep you going the post-game content because if it were just John getting his ranch it would feel like a big wet fart.

I guess mostly it just feels like the game doesn’t really stick the landing. Even as strong as the end sequence is with Arthur, a large part of me couldn’t forget just how instantly and off the rails everyone seems to go. Not so much the jobs going bad but just how quickly everything devolves - in camp and everyone’s relationships - with what felt like no story justification and 0 respect for anything Arthur has ever done.


^ e: I feel like a lot of my gripes wouldn’t have existed had the game not been clearly positioned to push online play.

Rockstar has had this disconnect for awhile. I remember having stupid money in GTA4 while Niko was still acting like he needed to scrape together cash.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Zigmidge posted:

Oh no my dollar

Take your hat off and show some respect son, that's an entire dollar bill right there.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

"Damnit Dutch we're killing all these innocent people and for what? Some land out west? A trip to Australia or tahiti? The only good reason to kill a man is to get the money for a scarlet Rambler coat or because he's got a rare hat."

I’ve killed a disappointingly large number of ranchers on the chance they were wearing a cutter hat

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Been trying to get into RDRO.

I mean I kind of like it but it's hard not to get frustrated when the payout for everything is like . I knew it was grindy but gently caress man I do not want to play a whole mission that I had to commute all the way to loving Tumbleweed for, for 10 bux.


And then I put my moonshine shed in the desert and the camp spawn on the cliff above it, so I have to ride ALL the way around the cliff to get to it and it just felt like a huge pain in the rear end. I need 250 to move it somewhere else and it's like gently caress man.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


SolidSnakesBandana posted:

I think the only way to enjoy RDO is to let go of worrying about any of the money or rewards for anything. Otherwise you go mad, doing things like keeping up a daily streak for weeks after you stopped actually playing

Yeah I've been approaching it like a zen thing or a like old west Animal Crossing.

I just want some money to set up the professions so I can cash it in once in a while to buy cool clothes and what not.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


MrMojok posted:

I don't know how many times I've been riding around and had to just stop and admire the view.





I was actually going to talk poo poo about the grind but I waked and baked and just slowly rode on my horse with country music playing, the sun was just coming up and shining through bayou fog. Like holy poo poo dude what more could I want? It’s so chill.

I’ll probably go off hunting in a bit . This game is kind of like a macabre Animal Crossing now that I think about it. Instead of collecting fruit and butterflies I ride on a horse festooned with dead animals and their skins, and shoot people in the face for the 5 cents in their pocket.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I got the bug where the camp wouldn’t spawn with a bunch of loot ready to sell and then when I flipped the session over to fix it, I lost the loot.

This game really has it in for the player lol

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I loving hate deathmatch in this game. I always get killed in super ironic ways. Got someone lined up, oop out of bullets. Got another guy lined up, I do 5 damage, someone is next to me all of a sudden and kills me in one hit. I was looking for people for what seems like forever and all of a sudden they're around me. Got a HEADSHOT lined up, round's over sorry.

This poo poo is cursed.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


doctor 7 posted:

Today I did a resupply mission and I had to hunt down an alligator for a trader to get supplies. So I do that and my camp had despawned by the time I came back with supplies so the mission just ended when I got there. No XP. Real sweet.

Is online just a loving broken shamble of experiences? When it works it is some of the most fun I've ever had but this feels like something out of Early Access with how much of a buggy mess it is.

Yeah I had a horse full of stuff for Cripps, the camp was on the mini map but there was no camp. Ok, I'll move it, but it won't accept my button input to do it . Reload the game, oh we didn't save your stuff, sorry!

This is one of the few games I've ever played that seems like it hates the player's loving guts. Like it's just waiting to kick over your sandcastle.

I tried to play a moonshiner mission last night, I still haven't found out how to actually do a delivery even though I'm level 5 thanks to Twitch Prime. I start a mission, and it just stays on the loading screen forever. I just turned the game off at that point, if Rockstar doesn't care why should I? I play all kinds of random games, I rarely say out loud "gently caress this game" and just turn it off.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


FuturePastNow posted:

The hunting wagon is a good investment. It can hold 5 large carcasses (deer, cougar, etc).

Got a 3-star but you can't go back to camp? Shoo horse, call wagon, deposit carcass, dismiss wagon, call horse

Oh word you don't have to personally drive that thing?

That's what gets me the most. When the game lets me turn them in, it barely makes a dent. And then I have to buy supplies again. And then I have to make a run for peanuts. But if an automatic meat wagon exists, that would help a ton. I might even have been tempted to buy gold to get that going if the game didn't kick over my sandcastle all the loving time and glitch out. At least CODMW stopped being so poo poo when I upgraded my processor, but I still don't feel like buying the pass after all the CTDs and bullshit.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


FuturePastNow posted:

You can drive it around if you want. I just fill it and then call it at the camp to empty it into Cripps.

No way am I driving it if it'll deliver for me lol. I'm already tired of the quest commuting as it is.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I wonder if I could make a proxy server in a VM and pipe PS4 traffic through that then.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


hakimashou posted:

My new fav button problem is when you run up to a perfect carcass and press F to pick it up but you press F a moment too soon so the guy kicks it and it ruins it from 3 star to 1 star quality.

They need to have a dog follow you around laughing at the player every time fucks us over.

Knowing them the dog will cost 100 gold, 5 whatever the blue things are, and be a fish half the time.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Walked into the Wallace station general store, and was told they have a “no mask” policy.

Those were the days huh


Zesty posted:

Fixing online bugs but you have to remove other players is like fixing a cracked TV screen but you no longer can use electricity.

What are you getting out of it? The Online activities are extremely shallow.

I like to make number go up

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


fennesz posted:

Booted up RDO for the first time in a month. Animals spawned. Neat. Camp was nowhere to be found, typical.

I go to sell my pelts and not a single butcher was present on the entire map. Alright, gets that's enough RDO for me.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I like how legitimate advice to level up Trader at first is to literally drive the wagon off a cliff so you can use the horse instead.

And you can initiate deliveries worth 2 bucks, so you'll lose out on barely any money, the XP reward is the same.

Surprisingly R* hasn't patched it. It's probably a high priority ticket due to lost revenue, and not all the UI glitches.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Capn Beeb posted:

Not that I can really think of. Capping it at 14 seems like it'd be the sweet spot in terms of poo poo actually working and catering to the folks that want human interaction, even if that interaction is more often than not some mod menu dipshit.

Or getting shot in the face for no reason.

It seems like the bigger and more successful franchise is, the more QC is left out . Why not, they already got your money and brokebrain whales will keep shelling out, why fix anything?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Alhazred posted:

Finally got the legendary bullgator to spawn and:


Hahaha

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Pierson posted:

This might be a very weird question but whatever: I've dipped my toes into RDO a little and is it me or can you just do all of this in the singleplayer game with less artificial gating anyway and trolling? SP mode has bounties and hunting and stranger missions and all that stuff and it isn't gated by needing to get to level 10 just to buy a bow. Also it feels like there's a bunch of stuff like robbing trains and banks that isn't in MP, or needs way higher levels?

I’ve been sticking with RDRO because of my brokebrain liking the numbers going up but I think every play session I say out loud “gently caress this game”.

I think it’s because the SP set such a high bar for quality and realism and then when you go to MP every little thing is level gated and obviously meant to frustrate you into shelling out real money. Oh hey this basic set of fishing tackle requires level 35 and the roles require a buy in and payouts for bounties are 10 dollars and gold dribbles in in loving fraction of a coin.

And then the crapshoot as to whether it’ll gently caress you over on animal spawns/despawning and the camp and if itll work at all.

Oh and a little thing just now. Came up on a moonshiner cop camp. That part is fine, it works, but there was a caption that said “To engage with moonshiner content”. To what? Lol I love how after all the effort on realism they’ll just add industry jargon directly into the game. My immersion

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Why would I want a Weapon Locker from the Trader tree? My horse already stores all my guns.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Ainsley McTree posted:

It's definitely a worthwhile function, but you gotta admit that it kind of sucks that you have to pay extra for the privilege of putting your own guns away

Like 500 bux too

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Tried the distant delivery.

What a miserable gamemode. You drive the same slow rear end wagon, even further, only now you get be ganked. Enjoy your extra 20 dollars chum, you earned it.

I get about halfway and then the ganking arrives as expected. Running gun battle. Wagon hit a rock, wagon falls face forward and breaks, there's two bags of poo poo and only one bag of poo poo playing, so I have to dump one, but in the process of all this the posse catches up, kills the hell out of me, I spawn on the other side of the county, and the loot is destroyed. The only reason I'm not pissed is because they let me keep my poo poo and I could just do the regular normal delivery.

Oh and the comedy continued after my loot got trashed, my horse got killed by the same posse, I had to run to Blackwater, he gets chased by the cops and I shoot at him, I get a vandalism charge and eventually just let sweet death take me. I just wanted to go to my loving camp from the fast travel man, I just want to go home. This was before I saw if they docked me the mats for losing like a bitch.

This game has evil in it. Hell is other people. Hell is RDR2 Online. Hello partner.


Seriously though, I don't know what it is about the game that makes me come back at all. Maybe it's just looking at the scenery high af in bed and the small achievable goals?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Oberst posted:

Good. This is how the game is supposed to be played

After a point I was just like, you know what this loving sucks but I'm gonna laugh my rear end off anyway because it's so absurd. Imagine a line graph will a big valley in it, first I'm pissed and annoyed, and then I hit the bottom and my enjoyment went back up because it was such a farce.

I've never played a game so thoroughly committed to mauling me.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


I've always been defensive.

Still doesn't mean blue dots aren't a continual source of annoyance lol

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Got a message saying daily challenges are disabled. I don't remember if I did them last night.


Could I finally be free?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Longbaugh01 posted:

I don’t blame anyone for wanting to get a solo lobby session or small friend only session working and it’s not because of other players, it’s because the online is substantially less buggy, janky, more responsive (menus, map, transition scenes), and way less prone to random disconnection errors. Also, wildlife availability is better, and so are the frequency of random encounters and events.

So in my experience (and others) it seems the majority of the issues are tied to session population, which is downright frustrating for a game mode that is supposed to revolve around other players, and that they have had like a year to work out these base level connectivity issues. It’s a bit mind boggling how it went wrong at such a basic level and over this long of a period.

And this is all coming from someone who was mostly fine and dealing with the issues until two infinite loading screens on shine deliveries in two different full sessions made them disappear and with it the time invested, and therefore drove me to solo sessions where I have not had the issue since. I miss the positive or neutral interactions with players, but I do NOT miss all the varied frustration from bugs and disconnections.

Yeah same. I spend a lot of time looking of deer and barely anything spawns. I can deal with the gankers, I've actually been having a lot of experiences where people just wave or ignore me.

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skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.


Lost my streak 2 days before the last bonus , because it "couldn't connect" last night even after 3 power cycles and everything else being fine.

It's like the final gently caress you from Rockstar lol. Nice sandcastle, dweeb *kick*.

Whatever. I'm probably gonna try PS Now soon anyway. If I get the itch for rootin tootin maybe I'll play my old save or start over SP.

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