jBrereton posted:

just looked and 48% Bolsonaro w/ 80% of seats is fairly scary

Lawman 0 posted:

80% of what seats?

Apraxin posted:

oh good
https://twitter.com/BrazilBrian/status/1049072683680456705
https://twitter.com/tomphillipsin/status/1049073521605918725
socialist republic of nordeste seccession movement, anyone?

joepinetree posted:

Race relations are far more complex in Brazil than in the US and colorism is a thing, where light skinned people who would be considered non-white in the US see themselves as white in Brazil. To use perhaps the most famous example,. Neymar said that he has never been a victim of racism because he is not black.

cool dance moves posted:

*goes to play in russia when it's not a major tournament*
*gets pelted with bananas*

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Em terceiro lugar, a união entre democratas. A discussão de se o fascismo nasceu dos erros do centrismo (como dizem nos EUA) ou do esquerdismo (como dizem no Brasil) será muito interessante para uma noite de copos na boémia intelectual quando isto tudo tiver passado. No imediato, é preciso que a esquerda, centro e direita democráticas se unam contra os fascistas — chamem-lhes o que chamarem. Claro que esquerda, centro e direita são diferentes — e ainda bem. E claro que cometeram erros. Mas nada justifica esgotarem reciprocamente as suas forças enquanto a aldeia é devorada pelos lobos. Sim, no plural.

Kurtofan posted:

So whos going to die as the result of this election

Kunster posted:

Oh, hey everyone, one of the sole lefty writers in Portuguese papers has finally written something about thia ordeal, let's see what he states:


Insert that screencap from the Garfield show where he hurls his food plate backwards here. Leagues better than yesterday's commentary that outright excuses Bolsenaro's supporters from like, everything, but still? Bleeeech.

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Jair Bolsonaro tem uma grande vantagem para as pessoas que, como eu, já não aguentam ouvir tanta má utilização da palavra fascista. A esquerda diz: “Marine Le Pen é fascista.” E a gente esforça-se por explicar que Le Pen é deplorável e infrequentável, mas não é fascista. A esquerda diz: “Donald Trump é fascista.” E a gente lá tem de explicar que Trump é uma vergonha ambulante com claros tiques autocráticos, mas que não, não é fascista. A esquerda diz: “Jair Bolsonaro é fascista.” E aí, finalmente, temos o privilégio de poder concordar: Bolsonaro é efectivamente fascista. Era bom que a direita admitisse isso, também para ter a autoridade moral para clarificar aqueles que não o são. Jair Bolsonaro é tão fascista quanto um fascista consegue ser fascista num país democrático. E como é possível que venha a ganhar a presidência do Brasil, convém ter isso bem claro na cabeça.

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Outra razão para afirmar que Bolsonaro não é fascista: o seu programa económico. Paulo Guedes, que é apontado como o futuro líder das Finanças de um governo seu, tem um discurso de privatização radical da economia brasileira, de forma a conseguir uma diminuição significativa do peso da dívida, associado a uma simplificação tributária drástica, de preferência com um único imposto federal. Isto, de facto, não é fascismo, mas neoliberalismo – só que os Chicago Boys já mostraram a compatibilidade entre uma coisa e outra no Chile de Pinochet, nos anos 70 e 80.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah this is incredibly dire. this is worse than trump

Joseance posted:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1049264394948026368?s=19

Kunster posted:

I saw that! Didn't see that on the coverage, maybe it will show up on A Procuradora this evening since according to the advert, she uses the power of Google to find the news.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah this is incredibly dire. this is worse than trump

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

so is this dude gonna give the go ahead for people to just level the amazon rainforest

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

lol if this is what you first care about when a fascist is on the brink of seizing power.

Joseance posted:

Stay safe Brazil posters

Joseance posted:

Oh good bolsonaro intends to take Brazil out of the Paris accord

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah this is incredibly dire. this is worse than trump

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

lol if this is what you first care about when a fascist is on the brink of seizing power.

Apraxin posted:

babypolis posted:

seeing as it would lead to human extinction yeah it seems like a pretty big concern

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In Brazil’s election this weekend, democracy itself is at stake. Far-right Jair Bolsonaro leads the first-round polls by ten points. In simulations of a second-round runoff, Bolsonaro is neck-and-neck with the Workers Party’s (PT) Fernando Haddad, former president Lula’s anointed successor. While this may look like another case of the “populist wave” sweeping the globe, the situation is even more grave.

Both domestic media in Brazil as well as foreign papers have tried to frame the election as “a contest between populists from the far left and right,” as the Financial Times put it. It is hugely misleading to draw any equivalency between these two candidates.

Haddad is most known for painting bike lanes; Bolsonaro defends torture. As São Paulo mayor, Haddad won the Bloomberg Philanthropies “Mayors Challenge” in 2016; Bolsonaro recently threatened to machine gun Workers Party supporters while on the campaign trail and claimed he will not respect any election result in which he is not the winner.

And yet, the great and the good in Brazil rely on this false equivalency so as to sit on the fence. Many indeed support Bolsonaro as a viable alternative to the PT. The middle and upper classes are so blinded by hatred of the center-left PT — a sentiment called antipetismo — that they toy with authoritarianism. It’s as if the typical Hillary or Macron voter were backing Trump or Le Pen. The Brazilian real rises against the dollar the likelier a Bolsonaro presidency looks. Owners of billion-dollar-a-year-turnover department stores and clothing retailers back him, as do bosses of upscale restaurants and hotels.

A debate has consequently emerged on the Brazilian left as to whether Bolsonaro is a “fascist.” Racist, misogynist, homophobic and pro-violence he may be, but his neoliberal economic proposals did not make him a fascist, argued political scientist Pablo Ortellado in a newspaper column. Instead, he should be better understood as a conservative culture warrior. It is true that much of Bolsonaro’s support comes from evangelicals and his online keyboard army loves to rail against “cultural Marxism.” But this is not the nucleus of a putative “Bolsonarism.”

The corporatist, nationalist economic policies of interwar fascism were conjuntural. What matters is the question of class domination. In today’s times, a neofascism could also seek domination through extreme neoliberalism. Bolsonaro’s chief economic adviser, Chicago Boy Paulo Guedes wants to “privatize everything.” Moreover, Bolsonaro proposes something beyond a conservative nationalism and its vision of a patriarchal, white, heteronormative, hierarchical, and homogenous society.

The core of Bolsonarism is hatred of the organized working class, of trade unions, which today — despite the absence of the threat of socialist revolution — is incarnated in PT and, above all, in the image of Lula. Fascism is, at root, a radical bourgeois solution that consists in not just defeating, but also annihilating, the working class; it is recourse to civil war. It is the enlisting of the middle class, in the ultimate interests of capital, by means of an organized party that idolizes violence, in a war for the absolute domination of the masses.

This is what is known as ultra-politics. It posits an irresolvable conflict in society; the only solution is the annihilation of the enemy. As of yet, though, Bolsonaro may lack an adequate political vehicle. His party is weak, most of his supporters are driven by hatred of PT and or are evangelical conservatives, not fascists. However, he is surrounded by military officers of the highest rank who share his ideas. Should he win, they will be in power. Should he lose, they may not tolerate a fifth PT victory in a row.