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I started listening this to a few weeks ago and so far I'm enjoying it, so thanks for making it!
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when you get to Somebody's Going to Emergency, Somebody's Going to Jail, you should also review the Sports Night ep that uses the same plot
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Nov 26, 2018 22:04
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:the whole "yes you are correct on this issue but now is not the right time" is the most infuriating of all the sorkin tropes. i just watched a newsroom from 2013 and he was still doing it, about reporting on george zimmerman Oh my god the West Wing's worst moments have nothing on Newsroom, the show that pulled the smuggest dickhead move of all time by covering news stories 2 years after they occurred and having its press characters say poo poo like "wait! Let's not rush to report this. WE GOTTA MAKE SURE TO GET IT RIGHT"
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Dec 2, 2018 16:51
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Want to drop in again to say that I am still enjoying this podcast, and thanks for making it! I remembered thinking the same things about "Let Bartlet be Barlet" on my rewatch of the show years ago, about how it never leads to actual change, and it got me thinking -- how much of the show's failings around the Bartlet administration pushing substantive policy changes are rooted in the desire to keep a level of verisimilitude with the real United States? Especially with Bush becoming president three years into the show and suddenly the show has to worry about any progressive measure making their America look like a hilarious fantasy compared to real life. Then again, it also feels like Sorkin fetishizes lovely compromises sooooo...
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Jan 2, 2019 15:25
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Gunshow Poophole posted:gently caress you it's January! the funniest part of AOC is seeing how insanely horny Republican Twitter is
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Jan 11, 2019 21:54
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I want the one that's a literal remake of Sports night but with Rob Lowe playing the Josh Molina part (somebody's going to emergency, somebody's going to jail)
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Mar 20, 2019 01:07
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Gunshow Poophole posted:are we sure this isn't a troll I seriously can't believe this was ever written seriously that fuckin pilot handshake Like seriously, as much as I love dunking on the West Wing's garbage politics, it's at least a very watchable show with lots of solid performances and you can at least look back on some of its less unforgivable ideas with "this was written in the late 90s/early 2000s." But then you get to Studio 60 and Newsroom and holee loving poo poo do things fly right off the rails and into loving dumbshit bonkers town where Sorkin is literally huffing a bag of his own farts. I love the podcast y'all are doing but if I were pressed I'd rather subject you to the torture of reviewing those shows just for the sheer comedy that would result
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Apr 5, 2019 13:59
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WampaLord posted:We have our first fanart! same
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Apr 22, 2019 14:38
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Throw it in the OP!
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Good stuff, glad to have this podcast back! A request/note: When you do "Somebody's going to emergency, Somebody's going to jail," the plotline around Sam's dad is re-used whole cloth from Sports Night. Between that and the fact that everyone else's dad on either show is either dead, abusive, had Alzheimer's, or is scowling at you because your brother is in Afghanistan, dammit!, I gotta believe Sorkin had a real poo poo relationship with his dad. The only dad the shows don't hate is President Dad himself.
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Jun 8, 2019 12:10
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WampaLord posted:
Sarah Paulson's entire character on Studio 60 was basically his sendup of ex-girlfriend Kristin Chenoweth
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Jun 8, 2019 17:23
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i say swears online posted:studio 60 was such a blip and seemed so long ago that it aired before west wing in my head. 2007 is way too late, something's off It came out at the same time as 30 Rock and I remember thinking 30 Rock was going to be a stupid failure and Studio 60 was going to be on for years. ...Then I watched the first episode of Studio 60
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Jun 8, 2019 19:49
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Echo Chamber posted:I've seen maybe half the episodes of Studio 60, and I found it more openly preachy (in a bad way) than West Wing. Part of it is that 30 Rock's first season is pretty bad. It took the show some time to find its footing but once it did, it got really funny and that helps a lot. Also yeah, Studio 60 is much preachier than the West Wing somehow, only lacking the gravitas that comes with the fictional presidency. It's one thing for a show about life and death stakes to lecture you on the importance of principled democracy or whatever the gently caress, it's an entirely different thing for a show about a fictional SNL also-ran to lecture you on the importance of free speech for hours at a time.
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Jun 8, 2019 22:04
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Gunshow Poophole posted:Hell yeah this is something I'm struggling more and more with these days like, the stakes involved in (insert popular culture thing) are just SO inconsequential or impossible to take seriously, from a narrative structure standpoint. I feel like you need the jokes and irony still at that point, or you risk your big fun superhero movie becoming a dour, grim experience like loving batman v superman. There are definitely points where it's overused in the Marvel movies though, particularly when they feel the need to go overboard and undercut *every* dramatic moment with a joke or witty remark, and they can't just let an earnest moment be.
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Jun 9, 2019 01:28
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Gunshow Poophole posted:I've never seen The News except for that airplane clip and it's insanely cursed Oh man you are missing the opening scene where WILL MCAVOY DESTROYS MILLENNIAL WITH LOGIC that every neoliberal boomer on the planet masturbates to on a regular basis
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Jun 9, 2019 12:10
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WampaLord posted:Crossposting I'd be down for doing this
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Jun 13, 2019 20:33
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Christ, I'd forgotten about that particular Newsroom episode/clip. So loving lovely and smug.
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Jun 14, 2019 15:00
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Acinonyx posted:So this episode starts the story line where we are supposed to think Hoynes running in the primary is a huge betrayal. But like, do we ever know why Bartlett even ran? I haven't watched the show recently, but I can't remember a single piece of legislation or foreign policy that we are supposed to think is important or historic as the viewers. People are just supposed to feel safer with President Dad in charge than someone less credentialed? I don't recall them ever addressing it. I think it's vaguely related to Bartlett being a kind of "what if Kennedy hadn't been shot?" kind of angle on the presidency but I don't think they ever say much about his dad beyond the guy being abusive.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:07
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Goon Danton posted:The first manufacturing concerns to move into an area are usually making cheap goods because the infrastructure isn't there for more complex or capital intensive goods. Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan all had similar "cheap junk" reputations when they started industrializing. Yeah Japanese tech and cars were considered "cheap poo poo" until the 80s
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Jul 26, 2019 21:46
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In addition to drastically misjudging the imbalance of power between the two sides, "voting with your wallet" also makes the assumption that these markets are actually open and competitive, and not run like a loving cartel
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Aug 5, 2019 11:23
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MonsieurChoc posted:What gets me is, FDR hid his polio for most of his Presidency. Or, at least, the extent of his suffering. There is a precedent! That had nothing on Woodrow Wilson and his wife
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Aug 17, 2019 13:30
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good lord imagine thinking that in 2019 and somehow not believing that nepotism and favoritism are rampant in political offices
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Sep 19, 2019 16:36
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I got it and replied. Thanks!
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Oct 14, 2019 01:02
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Gunshow Poophole posted:Also GUESS WHAT, another episode woo! hell yeah dude. gently caress em up! Last week's polling numbers made me legit believe Bernie could win this thing for the first time
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Jan 19, 2020 02:39
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Gonna have jack gleason play trump in a crossover with the new docudrama and have an entire episode framed around popular west wing cast members making GBS threads on bartlett's/jimmy smitts' successor
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Aug 26, 2020 20:36
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I think my favorite part of that masturbatory fantasy is that it's played like some great thing and not Will McAvoy hogging the spotlight in a grandiose gesture that inflates his own importance. BY GOD IT'S OUR JOB TO FIND THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THESE RUBE VOTERS
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hey I just wanna say I'm still listening to the show so the thread isn't dead same
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