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Bar Ran Dun
Jan 21, 2006

When there were five in the bed and we all rolled over I said nothing, because I would not fall off.

Op-Ed on Weird Christianity in the Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/...ce=articleShare

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Fun Shoe

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

BattyKiara
Mar 17, 2009


Liquid Communism posted:

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

Light welcome Bev and give her the rest she deserves after a long life. May all her loved ones find comfort.

docbeard
Jul 18, 2011

Modern worldly poster

Liquid Communism posted:

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

I'm sorry for your loss, and I've said a prayer for her and for you.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned


Liquid Communism posted:

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

Requiescat in pace. Sorry for your loss.

Bhurak
Nov 12, 2007

Playing music in the key of HIP!


Fun Shoe

Liquid Communism posted:

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

May she find joy with the ancestors and continue to watch over the family.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Fun Shoe

Thank you all. It was a beautiful service, but really, really strange to be watching on a livestream instead of paying my respects in person.

Caufman
May 7, 2007


Hello, my friends! It's so nice to see all your usernames and avatars and posts again. I apologize if my sudden and prolonged absence was worrying to anyone. Even before the pandemic, my work ramped up dramatically in business. I thought I might take a break from the forums and most social media in general for Lent, but then Easter passed and my break extended anyway. Then the pandemic came to Oregon, and my work remained open. In fact, it only got busier, and the workload ramped up but the ability to be productive went down.

To be honest with you all, it feels overwhelming at times, like I want to knock my head against my desk, tender my resignation, and go back to cleaning houses. I love what I do, but it also gives me stress dreams sometimes. So please keep praying for me as you do. Even if I'm absent, I'm trying to think of you all and hope you think of me, too.

It's a joy to know this place still draws participants and lurkers. I try to recall as many of your names and usernames in my prayers, but there's no soul here I can think of that doesn't have my well wishes. Peace be with you all.

Liquid Communism posted:

Thank you all. It was a beautiful service, but really, really strange to be watching on a livestream instead of paying my respects in person.

St Clare of Assisi may append video teleconferencing to her patronage now. May she ensure the proper delivery of your respects.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

In the 17th century, the Holy Roman Empire was ravaged by the Thirty Years' War. In the middle of this chaos appeared a Japanese mercenary named Isaak. His fierce battle begins!


Liquid Communism posted:

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

open wide oh earth, and receive what god has made from you with his own hands

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Chomsky Boi

Liquid Communism posted:

Not one to usually ask, but she'd appreciate it. Anyone who's so inclined, please remember my aunt Bev in your prayers. She passed in her sleep yesterday after a long and well-loved life.

How are you holding up LC?

Also welcome back Caufman. Do keep safe if you can!

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Clear off, fatso, this is a respectable establishment




Fallen Rib

Hi Caufman!

Tias
May 25, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!


Good to see you back, Caufman! I'll admit I just somehow assumed you were doing good, 'cause you a good chap, but it's nice to hear

So I attended an AA meeting yesterday in my home group, and we had a good fun that it was the feast day of St. Matthias (my long form name), and he is the patron saint of alcoholics, apparently because of an Egyptian theologician stating that he once said to fight the flesh. However, a googling revealed a new contender (who is Irish!):

https://wau.org/resources/article/v..._of_alcoholics/

Anyone heard of this guy, and how his saintification is going?

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Clear off, fatso, this is a respectable establishment




Fallen Rib

Tias posted:

Good to see you back, Caufman! I'll admit I just somehow assumed you were doing good, 'cause you a good chap, but it's nice to hear

So I attended an AA meeting yesterday in my home group, and we had a good fun that it was the feast day of St. Matthias (my long form name), and he is the patron saint of alcoholics, apparently because of an Egyptian theologician stating that he once said to fight the flesh. However, a googling revealed a new contender (who is Irish!):

https://wau.org/resources/article/v..._of_alcoholics/

Anyone heard of this guy, and how his saintification is going?

I hadn't heard of this guy but it touches me, my Irish father was also one of twelve kids and also struggled with drink.

The comments on that one are heartbreaking.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned


Tias posted:

https://wau.org/resources/article/v..._of_alcoholics/

Anyone heard of this guy, and how his saintification is going?

I know him, but he is not as well known as he should be.

Caufman posted:

Hello, my friends!

Hey buddy! Glad you are doing well.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.


Doctor Rope

I'm glad to hear from you again, Caufman!

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012



Nice to meet you, Caufman!

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

In the 17th century, the Holy Roman Empire was ravaged by the Thirty Years' War. In the middle of this chaos appeared a Japanese mercenary named Isaak. His fierce battle begins!


Thirteen Orphans
Dec 2, 2012

The principles expressed in the martial arts make up the backbone of my philosophy.


And may God bless you. *Pew* *Pew*

Edit: Better joke: “In the name of the Father, *Pew*, and of the Son, *Pew*, and of the Holy Spirit, *Pew**Pew*!

Thirteen Orphans fucked around with this message at 01:09 on May 16, 2020

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

In the 17th century, the Holy Roman Empire was ravaged by the Thirty Years' War. In the middle of this chaos appeared a Japanese mercenary named Isaak. His fierce battle begins!


someone was asking about animals that are orthodox. In addition to the makhor, these guys:

https://twitter.com/SaHreports/stat...9480033280?s=20

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

In the 17th century, the Holy Roman Empire was ravaged by the Thirty Years' War. In the middle of this chaos appeared a Japanese mercenary named Isaak. His fierce battle begins!


https://twitter.com/NameSearch_/sta...591250509991937

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Fun Shoe

Josef bugman posted:

How are you holding up LC?

Also welcome back Caufman. Do keep safe if you can!

Not great. Had to attend the service via livestream like most of the family. Found out the same day that my stepmom sat over the weekend with a broken hip and had to be admitted for an immediate replacement on Wednesday.

She's in recovery now, thankfully, but can't have visitors.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Chomsky Boi

Liquid Communism posted:

She's in recovery now, thankfully, but can't have visitors.

That's good to hear! Hope she is out soon.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned



Birettas and Berettas.


My ears are bleeding.

Captain von Trapp
Jan 22, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

All ecclesiastical Latin is badly pronounced.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016



Worthleast posted:

Birettas and Berettas.


My ears are bleeding.

I have a book about called Latin: The Empire of a Sign which has a chapter on Latin as an academic lingua franca in the Middle Ages. It says that the Engish and Irish were regarded as the most incomprehensible. It has several anecdotes about people speaking Latin and the recepient believing they were speaking Irish or some such. It goes on to discuss the difficulties others had with several more accents, like French and German, until you start to wonder who actually did understand one other.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned


Grevling posted:

I have a book about called Latin: The Empire of a Sign which has a chapter on Latin as an academic lingua franca in the Middle Ages. It says that the Engish and Irish were regarded as the most incomprehensible. It has several anecdotes about people speaking Latin and the recepient believing they were speaking Irish or some such. It goes on to discuss the difficulties others had with several more accents, like French and German, until you start to wonder who actually did understand one other.

To be fair, this holds true when they speak English too.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

I still can't believe they cast Spock as me. Spock! Can you imagine?

Of course, he was missing a few things.



Grevling posted:

I have a book about called Latin: The Empire of a Sign which has a chapter on Latin as an academic lingua franca in the Middle Ages. It says that the Engish and Irish were regarded as the most incomprehensible. It has several anecdotes about people speaking Latin and the recepient believing they were speaking Irish or some such. It goes on to discuss the difficulties others had with several more accents, like French and German, until you start to wonder who actually did understand one other.
The written language didn't meaningfully alter though, did it? Like an Irish monk who knew Latin would have been able to correspond, at least, with a cardinal in Rome or something. Thinking about it like that reminds me of how Chinese writing, purportedly, would be mutually comprehensible across dialects. I am not sure if the canard I heard that Confucius could read a handwritten shopping list (at least in Taiwan) is quite true, tho.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009



Welp. Some churches in my area are starting to hold Sunday services again, in accordance with my state's government announcing that everything is fine and safe to resume your normal lives.

https://i.imgur.com/Y3pzMFm.mp4

(sound on, it's a newly rescued feral getting its first checkup and shots at the vet)

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

In the 17th century, the Holy Roman Empire was ravaged by the Thirty Years' War. In the middle of this chaos appeared a Japanese mercenary named Isaak. His fierce battle begins!


Captain von Trapp posted:

All ecclesiastical Latin is badly pronounced.
dude i used to like you, why have you betrayed me

GreyjoyBastard
Mar 28, 2010


Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.





Cythereal posted:


https://i.imgur.com/Y3pzMFm.mp4

(sound on, it's a newly rescued feral getting its first checkup and shots at the vet)

heck, same

Captain von Trapp
Jan 22, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

HEY GUNS posted:

dude i used to like you, why have you betrayed me

Ha, sorry. It comes from being a young and impressionable college student in a Latin 101 class when the The Passion of the Christ came out, where its whole thing was allegedly subtitled period language but Pilate is all ecce homo with the Italian ch and the silent h and...

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.


Doctor Rope

I would like to request prayers for my brother, who was hospitalized with complications of COVID-19, and his family.

Thankfully the prognosis is very good; it hasn't damaged his heart at all and treatment of the blood clots that hurt his lungs is working, but it's still a terrible time for him, his wife, and his children.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016



Nessus posted:

The written language didn't meaningfully alter though, did it? Like an Irish monk who knew Latin would have been able to correspond, at least, with a cardinal in Rome or something. Thinking about it like that reminds me of how Chinese writing, purportedly, would be mutually comprehensible across dialects. I am not sure if the canard I heard that Confucius could read a handwritten shopping list (at least in Taiwan) is quite true, tho.

They could probably understand each other in writing a lot better even though there were some regional differences there as well. The syntax would be influenced by the writer's native language and some words might make it in. But the accents seem to have been the biggest issue.

Tias
May 25, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!


I'm glad I only care about religion and not language, because hooly handbasket there's a lot to get mad at in Passion of the Christ already. I mean, I can deal with your run of the mill syphilitic nun fanfic, but don't say you've made a faithful movie about the last days of Jesus then

Night10194 posted:

I would like to request prayers for my brother, who was hospitalized with complications of COVID-19, and his family.

Thankfully the prognosis is very good; it hasn't damaged his heart at all and treatment of the blood clots that hurt his lungs is working, but it's still a terrible time for him, his wife, and his children.

drat it, best of luck and all strengthening blessings upon him.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned


Night10194 posted:

I would like to request prayers for my brother, who was hospitalized with complications of COVID-19, and his family.

Thankfully the prognosis is very good; it hasn't damaged his heart at all and treatment of the blood clots that hurt his lungs is working, but it's still a terrible time for him, his wife, and his children.

Will do.

Tias posted:

I'm glad I only care about religion and not language, because hooly handbasket there's a lot to get mad at in Passion of the Christ already. I mean, I can deal with your run of the mill syphilitic nun fanfic, but don't say you've made a faithful movie about the last days of Jesus then

I am not fond of that movie either. If you want to really explode a Gibsonite, tell them that the nun's visions were edited and elaborated by a freemason .

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.


Doctor Rope

Hah, the day after I hear he's in the hospital, my brother was released. They say as long as he stays on the blood thinners he'll be fine, thank God.

Thirteen Orphans
Dec 2, 2012

The principles expressed in the martial arts make up the backbone of my philosophy.

I know Passion of the Christ is problematic but I find it a useful reflection on Good Friday because of my visceral reaction to the violence committed to Christ. I know, its got problems, but seeing Christ like that is humbling and heartbreaking. When he falls and his Mother sees him and Jesus says “See Mother, I make all things new,” I just can’t describe how that hits me.

zonohedron
Aug 14, 2006




Thirteen Orphans posted:

I know Passion of the Christ is problematic but I find it a useful reflection on Good Friday because of my visceral reaction to the violence committed to Christ. I know, its got problems, but seeing Christ like that is humbling and heartbreaking. When he falls and his Mother sees him and Jesus says “See Mother, I make all things new,” I just can’t describe how that hits me.

That scene, and the juxtaposition of the crucifixion and the Last Supper, are all I care to remember from the movie, and they're both very good things; I'm glad to have seen the movie, and glad it was made, even if the other 95% of it is dubious at best.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


College Slice

I never saw the movie, because it seemed really indulgent, sadistic and kind of anti-Semitic, but, if they're going for accuracy with languages, why would Pilate be talking to the Jerusalem crowd in Latin instead of Greek?

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zonohedron
Aug 14, 2006




Epicurius posted:

I never saw the movie, because it seemed really indulgent, sadistic and kind of anti-Semitic, but, if they're going for accuracy with languages, why would Pilate be talking to the Jerusalem crowd in Latin instead of Greek?

Because Mel Gibson is (or was then, if he's not now) the kind of Catholic who'd believe someone who said she had a vision of Christ dictating exactly how the Tridentine Mass was supposed to go.

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