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habeasdorkus posted:12 dollars for a garden salad?! Armand destroyed everyone's standard of living when he took down Omnifood. Now to get a bunch of lettuce, a couple of tomato slices, and a couple of cucumber slices you have to pay 12 friggin bucks. There are no lettuce, tomatoes or cucumbers in the salad ultrafilter posted:ABB for the decor. Go for maximum green with the objects.
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Even in 2018 in Australian dollars, these prices sound nuts.Flamester posted:
Now I wish the textures were animated so we could get some Mr. Saturn hot springs artwork going in here
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DBB And we're gonna need a lot of those lamps.
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Pharohman777 posted:There are no lettuce, tomatoes or cucumbers in the salad That's why they call it a garden salad. They give you some kind of horrifying overly-limed creamy salad dressing, you get your rear end out to the garden and pick stuff to make a salad to put it on. It's like those restaurants where you cook your own food at grills on the table, but for salad. Stupid? No, it's high-concept. Also the "lavender tea" is clearly just puree of Grimace. Totally justifies the price.
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ultrafilter posted:ABB for the decor. Go for maximum green with the objects. 
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ECB please, for maximum horrible grey-and-blue geometry exercise look. Then build a maze out of those weird green glass knee-high barriers, and line the walls entirely with the bright green lamps. Also:  Holy poo poo 20 tablespoons of flour? That's a quarter kilo, mixed with 70 ml of milk and one egg.
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20 tbsp of flour is 1 and 1/4 cups of flour. And 70 ml of milk is a bit more that 1/4 cup of milk.
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How else we going to sell more drinks? e: 
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Sep 4, 2018 01:04
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ACB. All green decor and all purple drinks. Is there a famous food franchise with an all- or mostly-purple logo? Because the logo for Cafe LA should be an eye-searing amalgam of that and the Starbucks logo. EDIT: you know who has an all-purple variant logo? Taco Bell. 
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Sep 4, 2018 02:57
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ultrafilter posted:ABB for the decor. Go for maximum green with the objects. I am actually loving tempted to make this "salad" for the thread later this week.
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Ayndin posted:Also the "lavender tea" is clearly just puree of Grimace. Totally justifies the price. *ahem* well actually if you've ever partaken of blue butterfly peaflower tea you'd know that it turns from its brilliant blue to an also brilliant purple if a squeeze of lemon juice or some other acidic compound* is added to the tea But this is allegedly loving lavender so your Grimace theory is just as good as mine: WARM RIBENA (*I am trash and used tonic water. Still pretty.)
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bunnyofdoom posted:I am actually loving tempted to make this "salad" for the thread later this week. Please do.
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VivaLa Eeveelution posted:*ahem* well actually if you've ever partaken of blue butterfly peaflower tea you'd know that it turns from its brilliant blue to an also brilliant purple if a squeeze of lemon juice or some other acidic compound* is added to the tea Ah, yes, the butterfly pea, Clitoria ternatea, named after the clitoris, for obvious reasons. 
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Ground Floor for this glorious LP.  Really enjoyed the first.Anyway BBA and a lovely reading basket for each table.
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I’m partial for DAA for maximum clashing colors. Seconding that we need overwhelming amounts of those lamps.
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I really really REALLY want to call attention to this atrocity. Where's the salad part? The closest thing to a vegetable in there is the garlic, you're just giving people the salad dressing to drink. Not to mention I don't think garden salad uses mayonnaise either.... Edit: Beaten to the punch. Keldulas fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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Episode 3: But, coffee  Hallo Monsieur Laurent. Bonjour, Ms. Delia! How are we today? I'm very well Monsieur. And I hope you are as well. Ah, it makes me happy that you say that Madame. Actually, I must take this opportunity to thank you Miss Delia. I've had more customers buying coffee from me ever since we started doing business together. They keep telling me that Miss Delia suggested that they come here to try out my products. Very grateful…Delia, what the hell are you doing? We're in the business of selling $9 cups of coffee, please stop telling our customers that they can get the coffee much cheaper directly from our supplier! So Madame, how may I help you today? I wanted to ask you for some info about the more exotic coffee yields out there… Unfortunately, I can't help you there Ms. Delia as I'm only importing Colombian coffee right now. Although there is something I have over here that you might be interested in… Please wait right here Madame, I'll be right back. Here Ms. Delia, have a sip of this… this is coffee made from my own personal stock. Mmm… gosh, this espresso's amazing. It has this unusually sweet taste and a very smooth texture. I've never tasted anything like it. This isn't your own Colombian beans is it? No Madame. These are actually Indonesian Kopi Luwak. I would say these are the most expensive and possibly best coffee beans on the planet that money can buy. Ok Laurent, you've convinced me. How much are we looking at here? Oh no Ms. Delia, you misunderstand. This is my own private stock that I keep for myself and for guests. This is not for sale I'm afraid. Yes, I guess we all need to play with the cards we've been dealt with one way or another. Madame, right now I can give you one piece of good advice. If you're really determined in serving the best possible coffee in your shops – and, judging by our previous conversations, I can see that you are very serious – then perhaps importing Kopi Luwak is something you'd consider yes?Not only is Delia undermining her own coffee shop business by telling people to buy it directly from Laurent, now Laurent is undermining his own coffee bean import business by telling Delia to start importing coffee herself. Why is everyone in this world so catastrophically bad at business? A word though Ms. Delia: these beans are for the true coffee connoisseurs and they are extremely expensive; you should be prepared to pay for the quality that you're asking. I see. This is actually not the first time I've heard of Kopi Luwak. I must say that this is very intriguing indeed. Excellent advice Laurent! Thank you so much. No need to thank me Madame. The pleasure is all mine. Speaking of being catastrophically bad at business, Delia has once again hired goons interior designers to help decorate her new modern café! Let's take a look.  Beautiful. This is the EAB décor style - I have crammed in as many of those tall green lamps as possible, while also covering every surface and every wall with additional lights and pictures. I've never been to Los Angeles, but I'm pretty sure this is right on trend. Small glass tables have been strategically placed to caused maximum inconvenience to the staff and our guests.  Slight problem: doing this cost literally all the money. If you look in the top left, we are down to 101 dollars. I'll have to do something I never had to do during Restaurant Empire 1: borrow money from the banks.  At least, that was my plan, but then I realised that the banks have forgotten about us since Restaurant Empire 1, and we don't have any lines of credit. Oops. That means that I can't buy recipes, I can't buy useless bottles of wine for my staff, I can't buy anything. Shortly after taking this screenshot, I actually had to sell a couple of lamps just so I could at least pay $2,000 for wholesaler relationships, since those are genuinely very important.  There's also an interesting new mechanic in this mission – we can now research new recipes! We, um, can't afford that either.  Since I really need to have some money available to me for buying new recipes and other stuff from our customers, I reduce all marketing and staff training spend to zero. It's time to milk this business as hard as we can.  We could have bought this delicious recipe for milk chocolate and walnut cookies with 2 tablespoons of flour and 20 teaspoons of baking powder for only $15,525! But now that'll never happen! All because of your insatiable lust for phallic green lamps.  By lunchtime, I've already spent the money I raised from returning some of the lamps. In desperations, I go to Treize à Table and sell the fountain as well as some dividers and tapestries.  The first month of the mission brings in $92,000, which gives us a bit of breathing room. I plan to let this mission run a few months longer than necessary to give us a bigger cash buffer so I won't have to shut down recipe buying entirely again.  There we go! Broccoli soup, only $12,420. It's a bad recipe, but it's a start.  One of our goals for this mission is to get an environment rating of 3.5 overall. Delacourt Sunset and Delia's First Coffee Shop are both dragging us down here because we haven't done anything with their exteriors yet. So let's do that!  First Delia's First Coffee Shop  Pretty weak. Unfortunately, façade improvements are gated behind your restaurant star quality rating, and all the really cool stuff requires four stars. We don't have anywhere near good enough recipes to get our cafés to four stars, so I had to take what I could get, which was mostly a bit of shrubbery around the entrance.  Let's see if Delacourt Sunset is any better.  Little bit. At least they put the shrubbery on the roof.  Now that we've improved the cafés and built up a bit of capital, we just need to go and talk to Armand to be able to finish the mission.  Oh hi sweetie, I'm glad I caught up with you… Oh hey hon. Well, you're a little early today. Everything ok? Umm, well. You, see… I need to ask you for a favour… Ughh… that was the last thing I wanted to hear… It's important… no, I mean, it's really important. What is it? Uhh… well… okay. Can you… manage the shops for me for a few weeks while I'm away on business? Business trip? What are you talking about? You see, I kinda need to fly to Indonesia to contract this local coffee bean exporter to supply the shops with their high-grade coffee beans… and I can't fly out if there's no one available to manage the cafes. I was hoping you could help me with that?"I want to go to Indonesia to buy butt coffee."  Sweetie, between the restaurant and rehearsals, I already have my hands full. I honestly can't fit two more coffee shops into my schedule. Can't you ask somebody else to help you out? And seriously, all this for a bunch of coffee beans… you're kidding? They're not just coffee beans, Armand! This is important to me! I'm not doing this! I have my own problems to deal with. Please Armand… I can't do this without your help… I promise I'll be quick, and I'll be back in a few days. All I ask of you is to visit this new furniture store downtown, so that we could establish some links with them and maybe buy a couple of pieces from them later. Fine. Go on and buy your coffee. Your shops will still be here when you get back. Thank you!Such a charmer, that Armand. All right, let's go to that furniture store, then.   Hi there, Mister. How may we help you today?Oh hey, it's Dick Steele, our CFO from the first game! What's he doing selling furniture? Maybe he got fired when Armand sold off all our old restaurants. I wanted to see what type of goods you had in store. Is there anything you're looking for in particular? Nothing specific really. I run a French restaurant and a couple of cafes – well, technically my wife runs the cafes – so I guess, if I was looking for furniture, I'd be looking in those areas. Restaurants, eh? Well, if that's what you're looking for then we've got a wide selection for you to choose from. Here's a brochure of the new stuff that's just arrived in stock. Thanks, you've been very helpful Mr.Howell."Which I assume is your name. You look like a Howell to me."" No problem, son. Come visit us again. Restaurant Empire 2 introduces the concept of furniture wholesalers. In gameplay terms, they're almost completely pointless, but it does mean that as the game goes on we'll be getting a slightly broader range of furniture available to us as we find new furniture wholesalers. Dick only sells six pieces of furniture, and they're not very interesting, so going there was kind of pointless.  Delia's gone to Indonesia, so I've had to temporarily move Armand to Delacourt Sunset. Unsurprisingly, food quality has plummeted, as Armand doesn't know the first thing about making coffee. Shortly after, I get called over by a customer.  Comment peux je vous aider, Madame? You asked to see me? Yes, I wanted to tell you personally how wonderful I think this café is; the coffee as well, I thought was excellent, Monsieur… Lebouf, Madame. But please call me Armand. Armand Lebouf? Somehow your name seems so familiar. Have we met before Armand?"Perhaps you have noticed my face on the giant portraits 'anging around the café, Madame?" I can't say Madame, as I have not yet had the pleasure of knowing your name. My apologies. I am Michele Poulan… …of Poulan-Tatou Industries? To what do I owe the honor of having France's riches heiress sit in my humble coffee shop? Haha, please Armand. Your coffee shop may be humble, but the coffee is anything but… I was in town and I heard very good things about your 'humble' café. It seems the whispers were very much spot on. You are too easy on the compliments, Michele… Well, I only say what I know to be true. But again, tell me Armand, have we not met before? I know your name from somewhere, but I can't wrap my finger on it… But wait! You're Armand Lebouf! The grand master chef? A pleasure. It seems both our names have traveled far. But, why are you here, of all places? Shouldn't you be… weaving your magic in a kitchen somewhere? That.. is a story for another day. But if you'd like to try me – try my dishes I mean – you're more than welcome. Here's my card. Come by anytime you like. Who knows, I might even give you a discount… Haha, I'll hold you to that, Armand. I have some business to take care of this week abroad. But I promise I'll come by and sample you, once I return. Bye, Armand… Bye…France's richest heiress, you say?  And with that, we win the mission! Next time, we'll be getting another new café, and Armand will be doing the first episode of his new TV show! Recipe research Now that we have a bit of money to burn, I'd like your advice on what type of recipes to research. I've listed the research options below. Each research branch costs $10,000 per month, so I think we can easily support five different research topics. Each branch will unlock a total of five recipes for us over time, and the fifth one will be incredibly good, so once we pick something, we ought to stick with it. Please let me know what kind of recipes you think I should be researching! In terms of usefulness, soups and desserts are always very useful to research, because when I'm designing an optimal restaurant, I like to put a single high-quality soup and a single dessert on the menu and make them horrifically expensive. Main courses, on the other hand, tend to have the highest recipe quality levels out of all recipe types. Breakfast recipes are completely useless because we sell so few breakfast dishes. In terms of café recipes, most of the beverage recipes are about equally useful. I've discovered that the blender used to make frozen cocktails is the oven of cafés – that is, recipes using the blender take a disproportionate amount of time to prepare – so investing in "Other Drinks" will be investing in our own demise. Café food is great, though, since it tends to be higher margin than the actual coffee. Feel free to vote for however many research topics you like, I'll just pick the five that seem to be the most popular overall and invest in those. Research topics French breakfast French appetizers French soups French main courses French desserts Italian breakfast Italian appetizers Italian soups Italian main courses Italian desserts American breakfast American appetizers American soups American main courses American desserts Coffee shop hot coffee Coffee shop iced coffee Coffee shop tea Coffee shop other drinks Coffee shop food
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Keldulas posted:I really really REALLY want to call attention to this atrocity. Where's the salad part? The closest thing to a vegetable in there is the garlic, you're just giving people the salad dressing to drink. Not to mention I don't think garden salad uses mayonnaise either.... What makes it even more ridiculous is that Restaurant Empire 1 had a much more reasonable recipe for garden salad. Then for Restaurant Empire 2, they took out all the oak leaf and radicchio lettuce and added a bunch of mayonnaise and sugar. EDIT: and increased the default price from $6 to $12, so OK, the Restaurant Empire 2 salad is better.  
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Let's research coffee shop tea, mostly because I'm curious if they manage to gently caress any other teas up as badly as the lavender tea.
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Since we have a salad that consists entirely of mayonaise I suggest we continue our tour of midwestern cusinie with American Main Courses Also, goddamnit, is Armand gonna have an affair with the Heiress and Della will be fine with it? Cause jesus I have seen women treated better with more empathy and respect in loving comicgate tweets then this game.
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Armand is definitely going to try and bang the heiress
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Coffee shop food and whatever drink gives us the highest margins. I wanna see Della crush Armand underfoot.
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Or they'll pull some stupid-rear end 'misunderstanding' (aka: Armand letting the heiress flirt, never mention the wife) and blame Delia for being hysterical
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There's so many ways this can go wrong, and it's already too late for it to go right.
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Even if we exclude the scene with Michele, Armand is just such an rear end in a top hat this mission! "Honey, can I ask you a favour?" "UGH! I HATE doing favours, drat! I will not eat those eggs and ham!"
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"Just for coffee beans?" says the man who paid thousands of dollars on far stupider poo poo. And who needed someone to give him directions to a scam artist's grocery store.
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Enchanted Hat posted:
Zut alors! Je viens de me souvenir que je suis français! Ohn hon hon! Baguette! Gérard Depardieu!(Also I'm about 90% sure he used the wrong verb form there.) Haifisch posted:Let's research coffee shop tea, mostly because I'm curious if they manage to gently caress any other teas up as badly as the lavender tea. Sure, this. I can't imagine how, but if anyone can manage...
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Wonderslug posted:(Also I'm about 90% sure he used the wrong verb form there.) No. Pouvoir conjugates in first person present as either puis or peux. So he's fine on that front. He did skip a dash between peux and je, though.
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The game can't even spell LeBœuf right, you can give 'em a break on peux-je.
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I like? how Armand acted as if he owned the coffee shop when talking to the Heiress, even though it’s actually Delia’s and he wanted no involvement in running it  He’s so much more of an rear end in a top hat in the sequel. Research in coffee shop tea!
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Enchanted Hat posted:Even if we exclude the scene with Michele, Armand is just such an rear end in a top hat this mission! given he dragged his Uncle (who has back issues) on a 9+ hour flight to work in a grocery store, you think he'd be a bit more amendable to ridiculous favors. but Armand is a completely selfish dick, and in a better written game, that would be a flaw and he gets humbled badly and forced to rebuild.
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I'd say invest in tea, coffee shop food, and/or every type of soup.
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This Cream of "Broccoli" Soup doesn't have enough broccoli to even have a tiny sprig of the stuff to put on top as a garnish. Mraagvpeine fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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Please tell me Delia comes home, learns about the flirting and has had enough of Armand to divorce and the rest of the game is her as the protagonist taking him down until he makes his living eating out of the trash cans behind his former restaurants.
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Delia gets home, hooks up with the heiress, who bankrolls her taking Armand down by reinventing Omnicorp. Everyone except Armand is happy at the end. e: Kopi Luwak posted:The traditional method of collecting feces from wild civets has given way to intensive farming methods in which civets in battery cage systems are force-fed the cherries. This method of production has raised ethical concerns about the treatment of civets due to "horrific conditions" including isolation, poor diet, small cages and a high mortality rate.[2][3][4]  ...and the civets, I guess.
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At this pace the more realistic version would be Dalia coming home, getting angry about the flirting, accidentally breaking her neck tripping on a mountain of Cinnamon and our main man is now a Bachelor free to roam the world once more.
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At the end of the day, I just want to say: these lamps were totally worth it. Think of it as Delia getting back at Armand by spending all the restaurant group's liquid capital on bad furniture. Anyway research American Desserts so we can get all our customers hooked on cheap sugary confections.
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Coffee Shop Tea and all the desserts I finally caught up with the previous thread and this one 
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Leraika posted:Coffee shop food and whatever drink gives us the highest margins. Do this.
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