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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:My point still stands, they blew it up without any explanation. There was plenty of people that would want to do it of course, but they just left it hanging. Classic TVIV right here.
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Escobarbarian posted:Mild image spoilers in this article but it’s worth it: I've only watched the first three episodes so far, but I'm liking this season and the author of that article needs to calm the gently caress down.
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The show gets better when you start skipping Charlotte scenes.
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nooneofconsequence posted:The show gets better when you start skipping Charlotte scenes. Why? Just wait 30 seconds and they are over.
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Finished season 2 about a week ago. I remember when watching first season this *dangerous* feeling it gave off, it was awesome to get anxious wondering if the characters would still be alive or not. Season 2 was pretty good as well but the fear factor was just weaker, and even the characters/writing were getting sarcastic about it. Pretty solid 8/10.
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nooneofconsequence posted:The show gets better when you start skipping Charlotte scenes. she coulda been okay if she shot her daddy (at any point)
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I found Darlene's need to adopt a child a dumb plot point, what is she, 65? Other than that, I enjoyed it but nowhere near as mucl as the first season.
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I can’t quite decide whether or not I like the fact that they neuter all the villains on the show so quickly. Ruth is the best part of the show but I can’t help but think of how she would have been as a full on adversary to Marty. The Snells went from cold-blooded murderers to annoyingly stubborn business partners. It’s not that I’m not enjoying these turns, but it takes a lot of tension out of the show IMO.
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jet sanchEz posted:I found Darlene's need to adopt a child a dumb plot point, what is she, 65? I think the baby is supposed to be a replacement...
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jet sanchEz posted:I found Darlene's need to adopt a child a dumb plot point, what is she, 65? She's old and regrets never having a child so now she wants one so she can her husband can mold it into something that represents them. dirksteadfast posted:I can’t quite decide whether or not I like the fact that they neuter all the villains on the show so quickly. Ruth is the best part of the show but I can’t help but think of how she would have been as a full on adversary to Marty. The Snells went from cold-blooded murderers to annoyingly stubborn business partners. It’s not that I’m not enjoying these turns, but it takes a lot of tension out of the show IMO. I think Ruth is going to end up being somewhat of an adversary next season. She was supposed to take everything over but now Marty isn't actually leaving. She may have hated her dad, but she will still be upset to find out that he's been murdered. And now she knows where the money is.
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Cojawfee posted:She's old and regrets never having a child so now she wants one so she can her husband can mold it into something that represents them. Errrr... didn’t her husband straight up kill their son which kicked off her have a baby/adopt one thing?
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Errrr... didn’t her husband straight up kill their son which kicked off her have a baby/adopt one thing? He was just a dimwitted surrogate-type son. No relation.
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Yeah, he was just an employee that she was really attached to.Cojawfee posted:
I don't know about that. Since she previously tried to kill Marty, and did kill Wyatt's dad, I can see her accepting that this is all complicated.
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Things like that change when it's a direct family member. Look at when Wyatt's dad appears as a vision. He tells Wyatt that he wasn't really going to kill Marty even though he was, because Wyatt doesn't think his dad could actually do something like that. Ruth might casually plan to kill Marty or kill Wyatt's dad to save her source of money, but she'll still be close enough to her dad to be upset that the cartel killed him. She wasn't able to shoot him before even though she maybe needed to. Now that he's dead, he's no longer able to be more of a shithead to make it seem worth it. So he's unexpectedly murdered and she has any good memories she ever had come flooding back as she mourns him.
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I think we also have to remember to filter all of this through several layers of "bat-poo poo crazy" to get a full understanding of Darlene's through processes.
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Finally finished S2. Predicting this show and assuming it gets at least 2 more seasons, I think the Cartel vs. KC Mob will be the central conflict of S3, while Wendy develops into a kingpin or mastermind type of figure within the entire operation. Then in S4, we full on get Marty vs. Wendy in a game of cat and mouse the mirrors what we saw with Jacob and Darlene in S2. That said, I thought S2 was a slight improvement, even though there were a lot of plot threads that hemmed up a little too predictably, cleanly and easily. Speaking of which, what happened to what's-her-name that owns the Blue Cat? I completely forgot.
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She left town.
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Marty told her to go to Florida to check into a paid for rehab clinic.
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Did anyone else think they ended that scene awkwardly? Usually I'd expect them to either end it with Marty walking out the door, or end it abruptly like they did, and have Marty waking up in her bed. But they did neither (if I'm recalling all that right).
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Good season but holy poo poo lay off the green filter on the camera. The whole season looked like Fallout 3.
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I'm actually kinda disappointed with this season. Nothing was solved and the last episode wasn't even a cliffhanger. Compared to shooting Del at the end of season 1 this season finale just fizzled. Also the car shoot em up scene with the Snells really bothered me. They were surrounded on all sides by cartel members who unloaded hundreds and hundreds of rounds. Next episode they casually drive off and it turns out only Jacob Snell was hit once in the shoulder while Darlene Snell was completely untouched. Same with the driver. I thought it was gonna turn out that Darlene ordered the hit and that's why they didn't die, but nope, apparently 400 rounds cutting through a sedan like butter only leads to one shot shoulder.
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Doltos posted:Also the car shoot em up scene with the Snells really bothered me. They were surrounded on all sides by cartel members who unloaded hundreds and hundreds of rounds. Next episode they casually drive off and it turns out only Jacob Snell was hit once in the shoulder while Darlene Snell was completely untouched. Same with the driver. I thought it was gonna turn out that Darlene ordered the hit and that's why they didn't die, but nope, apparently 400 rounds cutting through a sedan like butter only leads to one shot shoulder. I also thought that specifically sucked. Between all of the people involved in running this show, nobody thought it was dumb as hell?
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Doltos posted:I'm actually kinda disappointed with this season. Nothing was solved and the last episode wasn't even a cliffhanger. Compared to shooting Del at the end of season 1 this season finale just fizzled. My understanding was that the car was heavily bullet-proofed. If they had just driven off immediately, Jacob would've been fine. He got tagged in the shoulder when he opened the door to fire back at them. Still unrealistic, but at least within the bounds of tv logic.
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PantsBandit posted:My understanding was that the car was heavily bullet-proofed. If they had just driven off immediately, Jacob would've been fine. He got tagged in the shoulder when he opened the door to fire back at them. The windows were blown out and the driver returned fire several times before leaving while leaning his arm out the window. It's a small detail that really sticks out because everything else in this show seems realistic. Maybe the boat dock wiring was a little off the wall since that woulda been spitting sparks the way Ruth set it up, but that scene was the biggest headscratcher of both seasons.
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Yeah that poo poo was dumb as hell. That scene should have been the end of them, would have been nice reminder of how loving brutal the cartel is. Or they should have filmed a different scene with a less lethal rear end professional hit squad with pincer attack. A bit more bumbling idiots botching a half assed hit would have achieved the same result with less dumbassery. Edit: yeah the way he just sat there for what felt like eternity before he drove off all sudden while making eye contact with the shooters the whole time. Everything about it was incredibly stupid. Harton fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Doltos posted:The windows were blown out and the driver returned fire several times before leaving while leaning his arm out the window. Oh I didn't remember the windows getting blown out. I mean maybe if they had a ton of armor reinforcements built into the frame, the occupants could have been leaning down far enough to avoid getting hit? I've seen videos of cartel armored cars and they reinforce the ever-loving poo poo out of those things.
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I do agree that it was a pretty dumb scene though and I also think that it would have been much more effective if Jacob and/or Darlene had bit it there.
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Yeah or just make the ambush less intense. Maybe a drive by or something.
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nooneofconsequence posted:The show gets better when you start skipping Charlotte scenes. Yep. Just finished s2 and she’s horrible. I really liked this season too, though Darlene got old quick.
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Flashback Darlene was like a manic pixie dream girl but evil.
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Flashback Darlene and Jacob didn't make a lot of sense either. They were getting played up as people who were part of the land for generations, local folk that were the Ozarks and nothing else. Then they show Jacob coming back from war and Darlene being a random aggressive teeny bopper and somehow that warps into the pure psychopath/sociopath Snells? I don't think Jacob would ever go to war for a country that stole his land and I think Darlene would be well aware of who the Snells were if she grew up in the area.
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Doltos posted:Flashback Darlene and Jacob didn't make a lot of sense either. They were getting played up as people who were part of the land for generations, local folk that were the Ozarks and nothing else. Then they show Jacob coming back from war and Darlene being a random aggressive teeny bopper and somehow that warps into the pure psychopath/sociopath Snells? He was a kid. He probably got drafted and came back and his parents eventually taught him about the government taking their land. Then he grew to resent the government as he got older.
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Doltos posted:
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WW2 had about 70k draft dodgers that either went to jail, fled the country, or served in civilian corps. Seems small but Vietnam had about 300k. Whether or not Jacob would dodge or not doesn't matter as much as the whole point that the flashback scene didn't make either one of them seem psychotic/sociopathic. The Snells were the big bad guys of the Ozarks that EVERYONE knew. Jacob's not going to get brainwashed into defending Snell land when he's 24 and returning from Normandy. That's starting from the get-go.
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jacob would have to be in his 90s if he was at normandy. i assume he was in vietnam and personally i really liked the flashback scene.
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Doltos posted:Then they show Jacob coming back from war and Darlene being a random aggressive teeny bopper and somehow that warps into the pure psychopath/sociopath Snells? The whole "they stole our land" thing just seemed like hubris. It's established early on that Jacob is proud of his heritage and all that and has a distrust of the government that came in and grabbed land to provide power. It smacks of entitled elitism, which plays along with an old money southern family. I think the whole "sociopathic crime lord" turn was mostly due to Darlene's influence. The few times Jacob dropped his murdering hillbilly façade, he made reference to falling in love with his wife and constantly chasing after her. I could totally see her driving him into the seedier side of running poo poo in the Ozarks. It was her that declared they were going to cut the baby out of the preacher's wife and she was the one that put them on the wrong side of the cartel at the end of S1 right and continued with the "gently caress all of you" mentality when she spiked the heroin. Jacob was cold and calculating sure, and certainly didn't like Marty trying to infringe on his domain but he came off as the more reasonable one compared to her. I'm somewhat confused about the land they lost to the government and what they flooded? I get that Marty finally trumped their attempts to block the casino progress by the legal loophole that because they flooded their land and it became part of the Mississippi, that land no longer belonged to them but I'm still unsure as why it got flooded in the first place? hatelull fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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