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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

:siren: JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/ac7cwa3 :siren:
:siren: JOIN THE STEAM GROUP! https://steamcommunity.com/groups/artiho :siren:

:siren: WE ARE DOING A 128 MAN SWISS TOURNAMENT THAT WILL LAST A WHILE! COME JOIN US AND HAVE SOME FUN! https://www.playartifact.com/tournament/?invitekey=12555165678316378307 :siren:

:siren: THE TOURNAMENT HAS BEGUN! Please message your opponent on Steam tourney chat or on discord! :siren:

Artifact is the Half-Life 2 of card games - Gabe Newell

Artifact is the first new full game from Valve since Dota 2 was officially released in July 9, 2013 (Not counting The Lab, their VR minigame/tech demos that was released April 5, 2016). At first it was announced in 2017 as the Dota 2 Card Game, it has since dropped that moniker and is now being promoted as a collaboration between Valve and Richard Garfield (creator of Magic the Gathering). When the game was announced though, there were no details just a teaser trailer that was dropped in the middle of the biggest Dota 2 tournament: The International, or TI for short:

Artifact booed at TI7 last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4jPtrDCLo

Artifact cheered at TI8 this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVGy0NEQIkk&t=76s

Since then Valve has actually been giving out more details when they invited many card game players and press to show them the game and reveal that Richard Garfield was working on it, creating a lot of buzz. Gabe Newell himself even gave a presentation about the game to press:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mERhtoD21rU

Gameplay

So the game seems to actually be a card version of Dota 2. You have three lanes, and in those lanes you have towers. The goal is to destroy the towers and take the enemie's ancient (or base/throne/etc). The cards used feature heroes, creeps and items from Dota 2 as well as completely new original characters created for Artifact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnwJ1P3hcqs

As I'm typing this up, there are already a few broadcast studios preparing to cover Artifact at PAX such as:

https://twitter.com/BTSartifact/
https://artifaction.gg/

So Valve basically created Hearthstone?
Nope! Artifact is being created as a trading card game where you can buy, sell, and trade cards with friends or people on the steam marketplace. The plan is for the game to be as balanced as possible and not as RNG dependent as Hearthstone is.

Note on RNG: The game WILL have RNG elements. Here is a video of Richard Garfield explaining more details:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yebqetiISz0&t=194s

BTS interviews Lumi and Fwosh and they talk about the RNG here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b39MtIYUFaQ&t=211s

Plus someone over at the artifact reddit did a write up on the RNG mechanics: https://www.reddit.com/r/Artifact/comments/9cc9x1/in_defense_of_rng_in_artifact/

Pricing
Artifact is NOT FREE-TO-PLAY. The game will cost $19.99 and will launch this year on November 11, 2018. From Dave Lombardi:

quote:

two pre-made "base" decks of 54 cards each ("5 heroes, 9 items, and 40 other cards") and 10 sealed packs of cards, which each include 12 random cards, one of which is guaranteed to be "rare." Additional 12-card packs will be sold directly by Valve at $2 a pop at launch.

Cool what can I play this game on
Artifact is going to release on PC this year and will be launching on iOS and Android sometime in 2019.

Here's a picture of Clockwerk with a huge rear end dick cannon:

The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Dec 1, 2018

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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
:siren: So how the gently caress do I play this game? :siren:

Thankfully Valve gave early access to a lot of good content creators so that they could create Artifact content specifically on teaching people how to play and show the game off. Here are a couple of my favorite videos and articles that will teach new players how to play. its basically like playing dota 2 but as a card game, no joke

The guy who made basically THE guide on how to play Dota is here with a guide on how to play Artifact: Purge!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJXOHi9vSsc

Beyond The Summit's Lumi wrote an in-depth guide here:
http://bts.gg/artifact

The Hearthstone Player's Guide to Artifact: by Liquid`Fr0zen (Hearthstone Pro)
https://drawtwo.gg/articles/view/888c857d-c878-487b-9738-3889a5b1550c

The Magic Player's Guide to Artifact: by Paulo Vitor Damo da Rosa (Magic Pro, and member of the MTG Hall of Fame)
https://drawtwo.gg/articles/view/5163e6e8-5a33-4daa-8fed-f5fb292e89ef

Best decks for day one:
https://drawtwo.gg/articles/23-the-best-decks-for-day-one

Drafting tips:
https://drawtwo.gg/articles/best-artifact-decks-for-day-one

Artibuff's blog on how to play Artifact:
https://www.artibuff.com/blog/2018-11-05-an-introduction-to-artifact

EG.Swim has a series of guide videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yDs1rtcJOU

Stancifka's guide to building Item Deck in Limited:

https://twitter.com/StanCifka

MONETIZATION
Valve has clarified a few things right before launching the Beta:
https://playartifact.com/news/2535985526495756390/

quote:

We want to take a few minutes to talk about some of those missing features now:
There was no way to do a draft event with friends. We didn't prioritize this play mode, and had planned to enable it sometime after release. We've heard your feedback: drafting with friends is a core part of what you want to spend your time doing in Artifact. In the next Artifact beta build, you can select Call To Arms Phantom Draft in any user-created tournament.

There was no way to practice the draft modes without spending an event ticket. Drafting is incredibly fun, but can also be very intimidating. We agree that it's important to have a way to practice before venturing into a more competitive mode. In the next Artifact beta build, everyone who has claimed their starting content will find a Casual Phantom Draft gauntlet available in the Casual Play section.

There was nothing to do with duplicate starter heroes. We're adding a system that allows extra, unwanted cards to be recycled into event tickets. This feature will ship before the end of the beta period.
The first two changes will be live for everyone when the public beta activates later today. We'll ship the recycling system, as well as other improvements to the beta, over the next week and a half.

And here's the ArtiFAQ from Valve:
https://playartifact.com/news/1721959164054855755

The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Nov 29, 2018

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Stream for the interested guys:

https://www.twitch.tv/artifactiongg

TwingeCrag
Feb 6, 2007

I got a Phd in Badassery
But will I be able to sell these cards for Steambux?

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

TwingeCrag posted:

But will I be able to sell these cards for Steambux?

You bet they will. And then I will lose Artibux when I bet on the EE of card games.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Is this the Dota 2 thread?

Real-talk I'm interested in this game but hope it's not too insane. I need a card game to fill the void ever since I quit Hearthstone.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

TwingeCrag posted:

But will I be able to sell these cards for Steambux?

Yes

boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013

wish there was an official stream but hopefully at least upload the casted games on youtube or something

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Valve just shut down the Artifaction stream since the guy was streaming the screen where SirActionSlacks and Bruno (now Valve employee working on Artifact) were casting games.

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
First looks from the booth:

Staff are really tight lipped about new characters/lore until open beta.

The pub tourney is going super slow because mechanics are not being explained to players until they are seated.

Rounds seem super quick but entire games can slog. There's a sac 1 lane to win 2 meta that some folks are not picking up on.

Zeus PA and Chen seem OP at this low tier.

Shopping phase seems super RNG.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Beta is in October by the way. They'll be giving out keys to everyone who went to The International. I'm guessing it wont be too hard to get a key.

Crummelhorn
Nov 3, 2010
I look forward to a Valve game where any individual match can only contain at most 2 idiot racists

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuGEB_utF1E&t=138s

Valve News Network guy literally printed out his own cards to play the game for himself lmao

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
NEW GAMEPLAY RELEASED YALL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od5XamlmNxQ

IGN has a full match up right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6B7QhZdXIo

Ars Technica just put up a video from Valve HQ

boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013

drat it looks smooth, liking the music so far

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzM18nlkYOc

A how to play Artifact video from Ars also just released right now

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Zurreco posted:


Shopping phase seems super RNG.

Remember that you can hold an item for one gold!

boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013

The imps are adorable as hell. Your one panics when your tower goes down while the enemy one comes over to mock you

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

boredsatellite posted:

The imps are adorable as hell. Your one panics when your tower goes down while the enemy one comes over to mock you

They just need to spam END MID PLS NO DEFEND REPORT TEAM for the complete dota experience

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Super excited to play this. I love card games and I'm just happy some new one is coming out that isn't just a reskinned MTG.

boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od5XamlmNxQ&t=776s

Zeu's ult is pretty cool but unsure how cool it would be seeing it multiple times

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Aight I decided I'm gonna play a Blue deck. Game looks really fun I hope I get into the beta

boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013



I love this card art so much holy poo poo

Also a brutal loving effect

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

turboraton posted:

Aight I decided I'm gonna play a Blue deck. Game looks really fun I hope I get into the beta

I'm in the beta. shoutouts to being at TI8

Buller
Nov 6, 2010

Zurreco posted:

Shopping phase seems super RNG.

Not more than drawing a card off the top of a deck?

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

I hope they do a signup for a chance to be in the beta as well, would love to get some hands on with this, it looks cool.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I'm in the beta. shoutouts to being at TI8

Oh man I hope you can hit me up with some spare key, have some fun on the beta

Knowlue
Nov 11, 2012

I could eat a sea cucumber
Man I wish I was cool enough for a beta key

IncendiaC
Sep 25, 2011
If TI8 attendees get extra beta keys (and if none of my RL friends want them) then I'll give one out here.

unironically excited about the Dota card game

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
#teamblue

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Posting to get in line for a key if that is a possibility. Artifact looks fun

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009
Same. This looks pretty awesome.

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Posting to get in line for a key if that is a possibility. Artifact looks fun

Roluth
Apr 22, 2014

Eh. The game may look good, but the whole "have to keep putting in money to keep playing" kinda turns me off the entire thing. Maybe it's not MTG in terms of gameplay, but it sure is in economy. And MTG decks even in Standard can cost hundreds of bucks!

breaks
May 12, 2001

They seem to be making a reasonable effort to keep the costs from getting out of control. You're guaranteed a rare card per pack, there are no rarer cards than rare, packs are half as expensive as MTG, there's a 3 card per deck limit instead of 4 and the deck size is also significantly smaller at 5+25+9 cards. It should come out significantly cheaper than MTG. But yeah inevitably you'll have to pump more money into expansions and whatnot.

My biggest worry is what they are doing or not with matchmaking, since they haven't said anything specific but keep talking about how great old school join a chatroom type poo poo is. That sucked actually!

Roluth
Apr 22, 2014

breaks posted:

They seem to be making a reasonable effort to keep the costs from getting out of control. You're guaranteed a rare card per pack, there are no rarer cards than rare, packs are half as expensive as MTG, there's a 3 card per deck limit instead of 4 and the deck size is also significantly smaller at 5+25+9 cards. It should come out significantly cheaper than MTG. But yeah inevitably you'll have to pump more money into expansions and whatnot.

My biggest worry is what they are doing or not with matchmaking, since they haven't said anything specific but keep talking about how great old school join a chatroom type poo poo is. That sucked actually!

Eh, not enough to make me stop playing Eternal, which has a very generous F2P economy and will probably cost less in the long run. At this price point, the game has to be GOTY for me to consider it. They really should have a way to get cards at a reasonable rate by just playing the game.

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


wouldn't be surprised if many have multiple beta keys since you tie two passes to your account from the international if you had midweek & finals tickets. those who went to both should probably get at least 2 passes

Marin Karin
Jul 29, 2011

What are you, compared to my magnificence?
This looks pretty fun. I hope I can get into the beta and proceed to lose horribly

Thoom
Jan 12, 2004

LUIGI SMASH!
Looking at the videos released today, I'm surprised by how polished the game is already. Little things like mousing over your opponent's hand to see how long they've had each card in hand shows great attention to detail. And the animation for Zeus's signature card where it sweeps over the board and heroes that it kills get exploded is great.

I'm also excited by a number of features that I always wanted in Hex, but were never implemented before it crashed and burned. Namely, lending of decks, custom tournament formats/game types, and the fact that they already seem to have a spectator client up and running (and will hopefully also let you save/watch replays of your games).

JoaoVitorBF
Aug 31, 2018

I AM THE DARKNESS
So you won't be able to trade cards directly via Steam trading? That sucks.
I really hope they do a public beta before launch so I can try the game out.

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Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


I imagine direct trading of cards would be really difficult to implement in a managed system but you can probably trade them the same way you can trade any steam community item through your friends list?

I don't see a reason why the cards wouldn't be treated differently than my dota inventory, but who knows.

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