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Breath Ray posted:the beauty of the civil service (apart from working with great people from all walks of life for the betterment of the UK) is you can move jobs as much as you like. personally I spent about a year at each grade before applying on promotion to the next one up in a different dept. conversely I have friends who have worked their way up in the same directorate of the same dept! others have spent time abroad in washington. its the career that puts you in control Riiight but none of that actually addresses your laughable claim that £50k is easily attainable when that would actually put you in the top ten percent of earners, and still earning considerably less than someone in the private sector with the same skills.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Riiight but none of that actually addresses your laughable claim that £50k is easily attainable when that would actually put you in the top ten percent of earners, and still earning considerably less than someone in the private sector with the same skills. Well I attained it so...!!! I didn't mention the private sector - I said it was stable and well paid. but if you factor in pensions and holidays and never being fired then I suppose its comparable
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Riiight but none of that actually addresses your laughable claim that £50k is easily attainable when that would actually put you in the top ten percent of earners, and still earning considerably less than someone in the private sector with the same skills. Fash dad was a top civil servant, he chose to turn a job in the city down because he felt the civil service was a safer option. His best friend who did the exact same economics university degree/masters went into the city and retired a millionaire at 40. His wife likes to invite my mother to their Cheshire mansion for brunch just so she can passive aggressively gloat.
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baka kaba posted:Breath Ray is Mrs Flaps fyi literally or figuratively?
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baka kaba posted:Breath Ray is Mrs Flaps fyi Nonsense, She voted for Corbyn.
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baka kaba posted:Breath Ray is Mrs Flaps fyi What the gently caress.
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That's indirextly true gonzo - in the last three elections I voted green leave and whoever the locval labour candidate was
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When I briefly worked in journalism, we never actually had did anything investigative, the working day was trawling twitter and the local news pages for stories that might have a different angle or a wider relevance than originally published, phoning up the source people, and getting quotes. My favourites were being the middleman in an academic slapfight between Sir Tom Devine and some Queens University researchers about Catholic social mobility (felt really bad for the Queen's U guys, spend months doing research and publishing, and Scotland's top historian just fires off an email from his holiday essentially reading "dis sum bullshit"), and wasting a couple of hours phoning up every single Labour PR or comms phone number I could find to ask them very leading questions about Corbyn's latest hot take on Scottish politics without ever getting an answer.
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I am sorry that I missed this article when it first came out. 
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Breath Ray posted:you'd be surprised how much scope there is to influence ministers. its all part of being an impartial and objective professional. some call us heroes, but to me its just another working day Thanks u for ur service to our hell masters
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Guavanaut posted:Are we talking First one  
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You'd have to be G7/6 to be earring 50k+, which aint easily attainable. Stop chatting poo poo
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My dad never earned as much as £50k a year and he ran entire departments and got sent abroad and poo poo. .
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what does (an average) civil servant actually do? I'm not massively ambitious or materialistic so maybe one day earning £50k in a job you can't get sacked at doesn't actually sound like a terrible deal, but i don't really fancy paperwork in an office for the rest of my life
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XMNN posted:what does (an average) civil servant actually do? They don't earn 50k.
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well no, they earn £26k (if average means median) but they get up in the morning, they get on the bus, they turn up at work and then...? they must do something all day
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XMNN posted:well no, they earn £26k (if average means median) but they get up in the morning, they get on the bus, they turn up at work and then...? Deny benefits for about half the posters in this thread, from the sound of it.
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Some of them leak poo poo about Amber Rudd and get her sacked. I mean there's only so many times you can do that.
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XMNN posted:well no, they earn £26k (if average means median) but they get up in the morning, they get on the bus, they turn up at work and then...? Paperwork and office admin.
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G7 is 50k in most depts: https://www.civilservicejobs.servic...jAyOWFkZDgzZjli Higher Executive Officer is 30k and you get put on a pathway to get G7 in four years max: https://www.civilservicejobs.servic...mU0MjM2MjQwOGUz XMNN posted:what does (an average) civil servant actually do? Welcome aboard! Become a policy adviser to start and work your way up (I assume you have a Humanities degree)
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nah i did chemistry think I'm going to quit my job try and find an environmental chemistry one that involves field work I'm literally impervious to lovely weather which seems like the only downside of working outside
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I finally found a shop that stocks a lot of proper Mexican ingredients like dried ancho chilis and made a proper chili con carne tonight with them. My mind is blown. It's an unironic Breath Ray posted:Welcome aboard! Become a policy adviser to start and work your way up (I assume you have a Humanities degree) You can be like. (That should be discouraging enough)
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XMNN posted:what does (an average) civil servant actually do? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epWZ5KW1aLM
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Junior G-man posted:I finally found a shop that stocks a lot of proper Mexican ingredients like dried ancho chilis and made a proper chili con carne tonight with them. My mind is blown. https://www.seasonedpioneers.com These guys do excellent and varied spices. Their smoked garlic goes amazingly well in anything that isn't a dessert.
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Heya guys. Going to be doing some driving this coming weekend, got three of my home friends 30th birthdays coming up and we are having a bash up north. I said I'd drive and I am a bit nervous. I have driven this year but I am not looking forward to going through the blackheath tunnel at about 4.30 on a Friday evening, even if I am heading north.
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Josef bugman posted:Heya guys. Going to be doing some driving this coming weekend, got three of my home friends 30th birthdays coming up and we are having a bash up north. I said I'd drive and I am a bit nervous. I have driven this year but I am not looking forward to going through the blackheath tunnel at about 4.30 on a Friday evening, even if I am heading north. Sounds like a fun weekend! 
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Breath Ray posted:Higher Executive Officer is 30k and you get put on a pathway to get G7 in four years max: https://www.civilservicejobs.servic...mU0MjM2MjQwOGUz 30k in central London isn't exactly riches, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Josef bugman posted:Heya guys. Going to be doing some driving this coming weekend, got three of my home friends 30th birthdays coming up and we are having a bash up north. I said I'd drive and I am a bit nervous. I have driven this year but I am not looking forward to going through the blackheath tunnel at about 4.30 on a Friday evening, even if I am heading north. having people in the car is also a massive bonus for me, at least I don't feel like I'm talking to myself when I start swearing at people
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Josef bugman posted:Heya guys. Going to be doing some driving this coming weekend, got three of my home friends 30th birthdays coming up and we are having a bash up north. I said I'd drive and I am a bit nervous. I have driven this year but I am not looking forward to going through the blackheath tunnel at about 4.30 on a Friday evening, even if I am heading north. http://www.semgonline.com/structures/struct_64.html TBH that does seem a bit intimdating to drive a car through...
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XMNN posted:what does (an average) civil servant actually do? Presumably the same poo poo as all the other office drones, though it's my personal belief that the civil service only hires soulless automatons with impeccable phone manner. If anyone's had a recent experience that can refute this I'd be happy to hear it.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:http://www.semgonline.com/structures/struct_64.html TBH that does seem a bit intimdating to drive a car through... depends whether there's a train coming or not
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Just remember that there's four lights instead of three and you'll be fine.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:http://www.semgonline.com/structures/struct_64.html TBH that does seem a bit intimdating to drive a car through... That's going to have heavy skeleton presence.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Presumably the same poo poo as all the other office drones, though it's my personal belief that the civil service only hires soulless automatons with impeccable phone manner. I can - the fuckers never even answer the phone any more. Mind you I can't remember the last time I actually dealt with an honest-to-goodness civil servant, as most of the ones I deal with are employed by the big consultancy firms and contracted back to HMG at massively higher hourly rates (which of course they don't get).
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Hi UKMT. I had a bit of an accident with my front door key: Have tried to pull it out with tweezers but I can't get enough purchase (also considered needle-nose pliers but I don't know if there are any here) Is there any alternative for a DIY novice that doesn't require paying a locksmith to come out and sort it?
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suck it out
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Looke posted:suck it out His mum might be busy
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feedmegin posted:30k in central London isn't exactly riches, correct me if I'm wrong. It's really not, because of higher rents and living costs in general, but especially rents, they're nuts.
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