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Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




Had my second return ever last night. Having a Top Seller badge with a 100% satisfaction rating, I'll eat poo poo to maintain it. Because Top Seller's get slightly reduced rates.

BIG SURPRISE!!! Both of my return claims have involved silver. Ebay would have sided with me had they gone to arbitration, but I'm not going to lose my status for a $6 sale. I'm just rapidly learning to hate silver scrappers and their scammy bullshit.

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Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




This amazes me.

Remember when I asked about a Moroccan Bill in the Milsurp thread that had a weird Nazi stamp on it? General consensus was it is bullshit.

Turns out the person who sells them seems to have exclusive access to all sorts of low value currency being offered and ten times the price! Why? This person SOMEHOW has all the rare Nazi Stamped currency that nobody has ever heard about!

https://www.ebay.com/sch/hobby-of-kings/m.html?item=402839046450&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

I wish Ebay had a way to shut someone down for being a literal scammer.

Edit - Would you look at that! All the feedback is from (private transaction.)

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



Gotta admit I'm laughing at that poo poo spilling into currency collecting.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.


Wait till you get to "rare nazi silverware, taken from hitlers bunker"

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




Cyrano4747 posted:

Gotta admit I'm laughing at that poo poo spilling into currency collecting.

The dude clearly has made a business out of it. This poo poo is straight up depressing, because of how many unknowing people are probably buying this poo poo, then perpetuating a lie to their children about the currency itself. This is how one hundred years from now people could be tricked into thinking this bullshit is real.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 9, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Geez, that's saddening but also kind of inspired in a way.

Would be hilarious to open a competing shop that uses THAT guy's images as examples of WATCH OUT FOR FAKES. The wehrmacht didn't use this stamp for XYZ, it was only applied in Y manner etc etc. All made up, of course.

Only OUR fakes are the real deal! Accept no other imitations!

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




The Eyes Have It posted:

Geez, that's saddening but also kind of inspired in a way.

Would be hilarious to open a competing shop that uses THAT guy's images as examples of WATCH OUT FOR FAKES. The wehrmacht didn't use this stamp for XYZ, it was only applied in Y manner etc etc. All made up, of course.

Only OUR fakes are the real deal! Accept no other imitations!

One of the big problems with coin and currency collecting is the impact of the average collector's age. I'm thirty-six and almost certainly on the young side. Younger currency collectors sure as gently caress exist, but are very outweighed by the olds.

The problem that creates is the online community. There are a ton of super janky forums that have unintentionally brusque posts due to old guys not knowing how to bullshit like we do. It makes it hard for a young person to want to engage in those communities.

The other problem is knowledge. If you collect US currency, there are resources loving everywhere. But world currency? The knowledge base will be spread across different continents and languages. Despite the tome I have on some Moroccan currency (in French), I've never found another English speaking collector. There isn't a good website for it. There are sure as gently caress people out there buying the stuff, but I'd bet they are Arabic and French speakers.

loving assholes like this guy are literally making GBS threads in the already murky pool, but there isn't a great localized place to call the dude out.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 9, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Hadn't thought of it that way, those are good points.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



Captain Log posted:


The problem that creates is the online community. There are a ton of super janky forums that have unintentionally brusque posts due to old guys not knowing how to bullshit like we do. It makes it hard for a young person to want to engage in those communities.

You inadvertently just spelled out why TFR exists.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

The same guy I mentioned in my previous encounter messaged me again. "Just tell me how much it would be for all four mags."

I already did, buddy. It's $76, which is apparently more than you're willing to pay. Or pay attention to.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




Ebay is such a janky clusterfuck.

They recently unveiled a new shipping method for stamps, coins, and bills. It's got tracking, but it's really restrictive. You have strict measurements to go by, cannot go over three ounces, no plastic, blah blah blah. But $3.49 minimum shipping can hurt trying to sell $10ish coins and bills. This new option tops out at .91 cents, which I'll just eat.

Well, the website allows for this shipping option to be selected. But then it's loving up and not giving you the option to print the labels. It keeps defaulting back to USPS First Class. For the few people that have made it work, the tracking is spotty at best, creating a ton of frantic customer complaints.

I had a good one today, thanks to this new shipping method. I ship $20 and up bills free in the domestic US. You can purchase through the Global Shipping Program, but it costs money. It also excludes countries, which is fine.

I had a guy in Morocco try to buy a "free" shipping listing from me. But he was in Morocco, an excluded country regardless of the free shipping. When I screen grabbed the "Ships Only To the USA" and other stuff, I had an angry Moroccan guy asking why I don't ship to Morocco when every other seller does it for less than $5. (Bullshit) He also wanted to know why Morocco was excluded from the Global Shipping Program.

Thanks, Ebay's loving junk rear end website! It's fun when it creates customer complaints for you!

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

infrared35 posted:

The same guy I mentioned in my previous encounter messaged me again. "Just tell me how much it would be for all four mags."

I already did, buddy. It's $76, which is apparently more than you're willing to pay. Or pay attention to.

Dude just messaged me again. "At what cost will four of them cost"

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




infrared35 posted:

Dude just messaged me again. "At what cost will four of them cost"

Ask him, "How many is the most money?"

The Eyes Have It
Feb 9, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Back when every separate interest had its own separate web site and forums, I was on an airgun site and one guy's name kept popping up when reading in new posts. You know the type: big mouth, rude, never shuts up, etc.

Anyway in the buy/sell area I was selling a thing and he messaged me with a (too low, but honestly not insultingly too low) offer. If he were anyone else I might have taken him up on it, but his post history genuinely made me think there was no way in hell I was selling the guy anything.

But instead of ignoring him or telling him to pound sand, I said "the price is firm, but I'll think about it" because to tell the truth I wasn't sure if I'd change my mind about needing the money more than I wanted to feel right.

Anyway the item sold for the asking price that weekend and I forgot all about it. A few days later he messages me again about the item, and I tell him "it's no longer available, it sold."

His response was "WHAT THE gently caress, I THOUGHT WE HAD A DEAL?!?!?!"

It's a great example of how these dingbats are a net loss all the way around. Even this story -- which should be kind of funny or at least kind of cathartic -- is robbed of that & just ends up more bewildering than anything.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??





Fun Shoe

The Eyes Have It posted:

Back when every separate interest had its own separate web site and forums, I was on an airgun site and one guy's name kept popping up when reading in new posts. You know the type: big mouth, rude, never shuts up, etc.

... uh... oh wait, no, I'm not on any airgun-specific web sites or forums. (phew)

Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED




Apparently eBay is banning sales of nearly all adult content a month from now. I wonder what prompted that.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



Speaking of adult content. . . .

Earlier on today I was browsing around trying to see if I could top up my projectile supply. I'm a fan of Speer's Hot-Cor bullets. They're decent quality at a very good price point.

Anyways, doing a quick search and apparently the algorithm decided it must be naughty content (probably because of "hot").



Note that all of those pixelated pics were just bullets.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





If memory serves some sex toys are called "bullets" either as a proper name or shorthand so that might do it. That or someone at Google is treating gun stuff as "adult content" now.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



Midjack posted:

If memory serves some sex toys are called "bullets" either as a proper name or shorthand so that might do it. That or someone at Google is treating gun stuff as "adult content" now.

nah, searching "bullets" works fine.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




Somebody Awful posted:

Apparently eBay is banning sales of nearly all adult content a month from now. I wonder what prompted that.

That’s good to know. I inherited a big mess of signed Playboy Playmate cards from my weirdo uncle. These are mid-90’s...full nudity Nancy Sinatra...lotta...ya’d need a weedwacker.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

Captain Log posted:

That’s good to know. I inherited a big mess of signed Playboy Playmate cards from my weirdo uncle. These are mid-90’s...full nudity Nancy Sinatra...lotta...ya’d need a weedwacker.

I have a crate of random porno mags from the late '60s and early '70s; I was going to get around to cataloging and listing them one of these days.

Also, vintage nude air fresheners from the estate of a long-haul trucker.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??





Fun Shoe

infrared35 posted:

I have a crate of random porno mags from the late '60s and early '70s; I was going to get around to cataloging and listing them one of these days.

Also, vintage nude air fresheners from the estate of a long-haul trucker.

Is it not woke to ask what the vintage nude air fresheners smell like, or what they were supposed to smell like back in the day?

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Enter the woods, find a friend!


Somebody Awful posted:

Apparently eBay is banning sales of nearly all adult content a month from now. I wonder what prompted that.

Conservatism. The recent surge in puritanical garbage is funded by zealots as a means of crushing queer voices painted up as Think Of The Children™, just as it always has been. American bigots more or lost their war on gay folks when same sex marriage was legalized, so they retooled their efforts (and pooled their money) to regulate historically queer spaces out of existence, and this has the bonus effect of also being a means of enforcing misogyny. You can also trace the surge in transphobic legislation to a handful of deep pocket Concerned Christian Conservative groups that funded the original gay panic.

You can be an absolute shitgibbon on twitch and youtube for example, but if a bunch of pissbaby gamerbros report flood someone's channel because bra strap showing, low cut top , that person goes down long before KoolKingKoopa88 ever will even if they've not broken any rule at all. Such is the folly of centralizing the internet.

The end goal of these folks is to regulate queer people out of existence and turn America into a dominionist theocracy. It's why the nazis burned the Institute of Sexology immediately. Also worth keeping in mind that there is substantial overlap between queer folks and sex workers. Incidentally, it's super cool that one of the champions of the recent resurgence in this movement is the loving vice president. Not to say she's a dominionist herself, but she sure built a career on destroying the lives of sex workers and regulating their industry back several steps because Are Valuez painted up as, once again, Think of The Children.

tarlibone posted:

Is it not woke to ask what the vintage nude air fresheners smell like, or what they were supposed to smell like back in the day?

Suppressing and outright censoring sex work is pretty anti-woke. It's not an accident that certain elements of the internet hijacked woke as a means of masquerading their actual intentions of stifling BIPOC voices. It's a great way to slowly radicalize people imperatively over time.

Capn Beeb fucked around with this message at 19:12 on May 16, 2021

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??





Fun Shoe

Capn Beeb posted:

Suppressing and outright censoring sex work is pretty anti-woke. It's not an accident that certain elements of the internet hijacked woke as a means of masquerading their actual intentions of stifling BIPOC voices. It's a great way to slowly radicalize people imperatively over time.

... uh, I was making a joke about air fresheners, because I've been around naked bodies before, and in theit natural state, they ain't 100% fresh. Not sure if want my truck to smell like naked people from the 1970s.

Not sure how that is connected to sex work. I want to be clear, I was not at all talking about sex work, BIPOC voices, or anything radical. More like, old Hustler magazine scratch & sniff sticker stuff.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Enter the woods, find a friend!


tarlibone posted:

... uh, I was making a joke about air fresheners, because I've been around naked bodies before, and in theit natural state, they ain't 100% fresh. Not sure if want my truck to smell like naked people from the 1970s.

Not sure how that is connected to sex work. I want to be clear, I was not at all talking about sex work, BIPOC voices, or anything radical. More like, old Hustler magazine scratch & sniff sticker stuff.

Oh I know, just what ebay is doing has nothing to do with being woke.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




I've always found it incredibly apt that my largely buttoned down apolitical British side of the family, who came here in the sixties, always used the word "puritanical" when asked to describe America.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

What the gently caress is up lately?

I have a listing for a Safariland speedloader for Ruger GP100. I had three of them; one sold and now I have two left. My listing title says "Safariland speedloader" as in singular. One speedloader. In the listing itself, the quantity is "1". In the description I state that the speedloaders are being sold individually.

A guy just messaged me to ask if the price is for one speedloader or for two.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




infrared35 posted:

What the gently caress is up lately?

I have a listing for a Safariland speedloader for Ruger GP100. I had three of them; one sold and now I have two left. My listing title says "Safariland speedloader" as in singular. One speedloader. In the listing itself, the quantity is "1". In the description I state that the speedloaders are being sold individually.

A guy just messaged me to ask if the price is for one speedloader or for two.

I literally will not touch multiple quantity item listings. I don't trust Ebay's website to do anything properly, even if it means I have to manually list three separate things that should go in one listing with a quantity of X.

Ebay's whole .91 cent shipping for coins and bills if loving awesome, if it works. I've had big issues with getting the website to list it properly. Because, well, it's ebay. But being able to sell sub $10 coins and bills suddenly becomes a lot easier when you don't have a minimum of $3.50 shipping to dicker about.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



infrared35 posted:

What the gently caress is up lately?

I have a listing for a Safariland speedloader for Ruger GP100. I had three of them; one sold and now I have two left. My listing title says "Safariland speedloader" as in singular. One speedloader. In the listing itself, the quantity is "1". In the description I state that the speedloaders are being sold individually.

A guy just messaged me to ask if the price is for one speedloader or for two.

Something I've learned as both a buyer and a seller is that the IQ of the average person buying on eBay appears to be roughly the temperature on a fall morning in the Midwest.

In Celsius.

Like, setting aside craz y seller stories, just the number of times as a buyer I've had some issue and brought it up with the seller and they've expressed shock and amazement that I wasn't crazy, hostile, moronic, or all of the above.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??





Fun Shoe

I will say that I've been confused on how many of a given item are for sale before. Not just on eBay, either--Amazon confuses me sometimes. But these are cases where one unit has multiple pieces, and the pictures sometimes show one item, or one package of X items, or a whole lot containing X packages of X items. And the "English" descriptions can be ambiguous. So there's a picture of a fake vintage Diet Pepsi can that's also a little secret storage thing. Then you see that it's part of a sextet, held together with a sturdy, hard version of those old six pack ring things. Then you see six of those six packs. The price seems high for just the one can, and indeed also for one six pack, but six of them? So you read the description: "CONTAINS SICKS (6) PCS"

What is a piece? A single can, or the sixpack? WHY SHOW ME ALL THOSE PICTURES?

But for speed loaders? I've never bought those in packages that include more than one.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




I recently bit the bullet and joined PMG - https://www.pmgnotes.com/

This is the organization that grades currency, putting them in holders like this -



Depending on the rarity of the bill and the assigned grade, this is where bills can go from being worth $ to $$$.

The first six I sent in will almost certainly go in my personal collection, unless I hit some sort of grading jackpot.

But you want to know what will make your eyes bleed? Trying to figure out how in the unholy gently caress to fill out the submission forms. What's a catalogue number for a Moroccan Bill from 1924? Nobody knows!!! Wouldn't you imagine they are being paid for figuring out those numbers? Apparently, they will tell you if you're wrong and forms will have to be resubmitted! For reasons!

They have the forms online. But they have to be printed out, in loving triplicate, and mailed in with the bills.

It's like they are trying to gatekeep the hobby, for gently caress's sake.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



Captain Log posted:

It's like they are trying to gatekeep the hobby, for gently caress's sake.

Yes, they are. They are also trying to gatekeep their grading expertise because that's where they make the money.

Collecting of any kind is a minefield of gatekeeping precisely because people make livings trading in whatever is being collected, be it guns or coins or pokemon cards, and the authority who is responsible for grading and certifying the collectable is massively powerful. As you put it:


Captain Log posted:


This is the organization that grades currency, putting them in holders like this -
. . .

Depending on the rarity of the bill and the assigned grade, this is where bills can go from being worth $ to $$$.


I mean, imagine if there was a single body that would certify that a K98k was 100% authentic, not hosed with, and would even assign a number value to the condition. THe closest we have in guns is the nigh-worthless NRA grading scale, but imagine that and there's someone who the hobby recognizes as an authority that will put their official stamp on it. We can already kind of see this with provenance being important on the higher end collectables. A high-grade gun coming out of the collection of a respected collector (or better yet, a true expert who has published etc) with a good reputation in the community is going to go for more money and come under less intense scrutiny than the same gun appearing out of nowhere as an attic find.

Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED




something something R.L. Wilson something Colt something burn in hell

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




When it comes to certifying bills, I am literally doing it because certified Moroccan stuff, in the states, doesn’t exist. As my collection grows, I’ll sell a piece to fund an upgrade. In 90% of those sales, the name is Arabic. I don’t think there is much of the Moroccan Bill community that only speaks English.

But, I could see the potential to profit from Bill certification. I might do some test cases. But with all that said, the membership fee should be the gate keeping. Once I’m a paid member of the club, I’d expect things to be a little more intuitive.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

Another dude just messaged me about the Glock mags I'm selling.

quote:

well hello and good afternoon
thank u for the offer
i am looking to buy four of these and i see you offer discounts for multiples
i see you are offering 19.20 each for four or more
can u do 18 usd each and are these ones with cutouts on both sides like shown?
they work for those with reversible magazine release
i hope we can do some business together
stay safe and warm out there
God Bless,John

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




This listing in bad on so many levels -

- Caricature in frame with whateverthefuck is being sold. Because we all know the gold standard in auctioning literal trash is, "Put a caricature in the frame."
- Said caricature looks like it has been drawn on about a second grade level.
- It's literal trash. If an action figure's box can be opened and closed, someone might want to buy it. But a card with a torn off blister pack? That's straight up trash.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154313273036?epid=2313373428&hash=item23edc9aecc:g:FU4AAOSwSCtgFlNM

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



I will 100% guarantee the person who buys that will re-glue the blister pack and use it to try and sell an opened toy as one still in the pack. The damage from opening it isnt super apparent without looking closely, and that's good enough for selling poo poo online.

So yeah, it's not trash to the right scammer.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

What is it about these Glock mags that attracts morons? I would like to know, so I can fix it.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"




Cyrano4747 posted:

I will 100% guarantee the person who buys that will re-glue the blister pack and use it to try and sell an opened toy as one still in the pack. The damage from opening it isnt super apparent without looking closely, and that's good enough for selling poo poo online.

So yeah, it's not trash to the right scammer.

I'd hope even the newest action figure collector would be able to spot that level scam. It's also not a particularly valuable figure, either. If it was some 80's Star Wars backboard? Hell, someone might want that. But a random rear end Creature figure? It's trash.

That loving caricature, though.


infrared35 posted:

What is it about these Glock mags that attracts morons? I would like to know, so I can fix it.




Ooooh that makes my blood boil, unless the person instantly messaged you about it. I will normally have a label printed within fifteen minutes of an order's close and my father will often go run in to the USPS mailbox across the street.

Gun stuff looks like it's the worst for selling on ebay.

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The Eyes Have It
Feb 9, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

That caricature is something else alright. I guess that's his "brand" or whatever. It's got more product photo real estate and better lighting than the actual product for sale. The quotation marks around the speech bubble text is really the cherry on top.

This reminds me, I've been going through Amazon's processes for selling and for every annoying hoop they hit me with, I can 100% see where it came from and why it is that way. For example, the main product photo must be ONLY the exact product (and whatever comes with it) on a white background with nothing else (no text, etc.)

That's a good policy, and I really notice the places that do NOT do that, and it highlights how some sellers really try just about everything under the sun if given like half a chance.

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