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snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!
What if and stay with me here. we threw our old people into the ocean like a used car battery.

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Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug
That's super hosed up dude. You really shouldn't throw batteries in the ocean.

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice

Doom Rooster posted:

That's super hosed up dude. You really shouldn't throw batteries in the ocean.

No, car batteries are good for the ocean and throwing them in is good fun. You're thinking of truck drivers.

halokiller
Dec 28, 2008

Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves


Is there any reason your facility doesn't do 12 hour shifts? That's how most places cover the otherwise undesirable middle shift.

GORILLA BASTARD
Jun 20, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
My co-workers fiance made about 90+ an hour working 5 hrs on Thanksgiving. With her night differential it was over $100 an hour easily. Now this is at a top-shelf hospital but drat the money is super nice in NY.

HodjasBitch
Apr 24, 2003

Too bad you revealed what a huge asshole you are so early in the game.....I woulda put out.
Fun Shoe
I worked LTC as a CNA on middles for almost 20 years. The best part of that was when my facility was part of a not-for-profit organization. At that time, the ratios were reasonable. Loved my work, loved my patients and their families. It all went to poo poo when it became privately owned and for-profit. They opened a rehab unit with very acute patients (privately insured) and pulled lots of staff to that unit, leaving the rest of us short. I was working the dementia unit at the time, and they even pulled our nurse, never a good idea to lose a set of eyes and ears (and hands) with a unit full of wanderers.

After returning from a long MLOA, my spot on that unit was gone. I moved to the rehab unit, and the better ratio combined with the extra equipment and resources given to those patients made it a breeze to work, but pissed me off for the medicaid pts who had spent down every cent they worked for because they basically outlived their money.

Not only was my pay poo poo level, the attitude of the admins (and our oval office DON) was horrible. We were reminded daily that we could easily be replaced.

Until this country (and others) decides to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to caring for these people on an equitable basis, working in LTC will only get worse. Good luck with your scheduling, seriously. I'd still be doing the job because I was one of the people who should be working in the field, but I became a professional patient instead. On medicaid. I'm so hosed.

roboshit
Apr 4, 2009

I work in acute care and it suffers from the same issues, albeit not as badly as in nursing homes. People will tell you the nursing "shortage" is due to all the boomers getting old and dying, and that may be partially true, but I think it's mostly because healthcare just isn't an enticing career option anymore. Nurses are underpaid and overworked almost everywhere you go and hospitals have to focus on "customer service" (in the US) to get reimbursed from Medicaid/Medicare since that's what 75% of hospital patients are on. In a typical shift, I have to put up with a whole lot of bullshit, while not having the resources I need because my hospital is cheap as poo poo, while being paid terribly for where I live, while being watched by hospital administration making sure I kiss everyone's rear end to ensure they choose the right survey questions. I feel like a broken record because I've been bitching about this for years but it only gets worse and worse.

If you want to solve the nursing shortage, you need to start paying nurses what they're worth. The answer isn't just to open a million more nursing schools and pump more and more new grads into the industry, nursing needs to be an attractive and well paying career option that people actually want to stay in. Where I work, and I'm sure it's like this in other places, the typical lifespan of a new grad RN is about 2-3 years before they leave bedside nursing altogether and do something else.

Ema Nymton
Apr 26, 2008

the place where I come from
is a small town
Buglord
Nursing was literally back breaking work for my mother. Her hurt her back helping a fatass patent out of bed and couldn't work anymore. The hospital treated her like garbage. Worker's comp treated her like garbage. Her back has been hosed up ever since. And she's not the only one. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/human-capital-and-risk/4-statistics-on-nurse-workplace-injuries.html

quote:

1. Nursing has the highest rate of nonfatal occupational injuries, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

2. Nurses face injuries from manually lifting and moving patients — according to an American Nurses Association Health Risk Appraisal, 42 percent of surveyed nurses said their responsibilities include lifting or repositioning heavy objects, and that doing so is a work environment safety risk.

It's not worth it. Being a coal miner is literally safer and more lucrative than this nursing poo poo.

IronClaymore
Jun 30, 2010

by Athanatos

Chomp8645 posted:

Root of the problem right there. Someone brought up how nursing and trucking are perpetually short staffed. Personally I think pay is only part of the problem. There is no amount of money you could pay me to babysit cranky olds who are waiting for death, nor to spend 60+ hour weeks in a truck. The former would destroy my mind, the latter my body. The jobs are just miserable poo poo and paying more doesn't change that, I would never do either except out of desperation.

The only way pay could change that is if it was so astronomically high that I would just accept "I will be miserable for a few years stockpiling mad cash and then quit", which does not make for stellar employees for obvious reasons.

Yeah, it's enough to make you a socialist, wondering why nurses get paid so little and executives so much. Personally I'd accept a pittance to work in an air-conditioned office all day, just going to meetings and bullshit. And don't tell me how CEOs "work so hard", we had a guy who did horrible and didn't do poo poo, nearly drove the state-owned company into the ground, and got a $15million golden parachute, and that was considered a punishment.

But the amount to make me work in a nursing home, it does have a non-ridiculous dollar value, but it's high. It is the sort of amount where I could retire in 5 years. And I personally doubt I'd make 5 weeks. That poo poo's ridiculous! I like that I have lab skills, then if we get the aged apocalypse where everyone is either in nursing homes, or in the business of caring for people in nursing homes [this is a genuine apocalypse scenario], at least I get to be one of the guys helping to analyse all the bloods that are taken all the time.

Ugh, old people bloods though. You have to hold your breath when aliquoting the blood serum. Thank goodness for automated pathology machines.

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

IronClaymore posted:

Ugh, old people bloods though. You have to hold your breath when aliquoting the blood serum. Thank goodness for automated pathology machines.
what does this mean

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012



IronClaymore posted:

Ugh, old people bloods though. You have to hold your breath when aliquoting the blood serum. Thank goodness for automated pathology machines.

For god’s SAKE what does it mean???

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

is it an old people smelly joke or does it actually smell bad when you take their blood. its a legitimate question

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
It's amazing how critical areas like nursing are just left to get worse and worse over time. I work in a field aligned with healthcare, and it' just horrendous seeing things debilitate over time (a bit like old people in fact!). Our facility only needs one nurse, but they recently forced him to resign because he wouldn't work extra hours. So now instead of an engaging, knowledgeable nurse present 80% of the normal working day, we have agency nurses who know nothing about the place or the people coming in a third of the time. And I bet the company is still spending more money on their agency fees than this one nurse's normal salary. That's capitalism, I guess!

And things aint any better for the rest of us. Had a lovely email from management today saying that they'd no longer be paying overtime rates (1.5-2 times normal pay), so now when people are expected to work longer, they won't get extra money for it (just normal rates). And that kind of poo poo-sighted* penny pinching attitude is why I've just applied to be a train driver!

*meant to write short-sighted, but I think this must've been a Freudian slip

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pikachode
Jan 21, 2019

by R. Guyovich

Ariong posted:

For god’s SAKE what does it mean???
i need to know!!

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