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I have no experience with the MMR vaccine turning me into loving Magneto, sadly
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Sep 11, 2018 15:53
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Yeah, that's a pretty good joke actually.
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Sep 11, 2018 16:15
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I’m a high functioning autistic person who started exhibiting symptoms before she was vaccinated (and have a mother who started exhibiting symptoms before some of those vaccines even existed) If it helps, the next time I start laughing at idiots who use horribly unscientific methods to reverse engineer a reason that my brain exists in a state that promotes an a high understanding of the scientific thought process, I can include your SIL, OP.
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Sep 11, 2018 17:22
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Tremendous!
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Sep 12, 2018 03:56
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I Said No posted:sneeze on her kids
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Sep 12, 2018 04:35
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Maybe she thinks what happens in this horrible meme is what happens for real.
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Sep 12, 2018 05:02
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I always loving knew Wmmr was a problem. What with the tattoos every tuesday
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Sep 12, 2018 05:10
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no, no i said ARTY-vaxxer. i wanted a dyson not a dead son
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Sep 12, 2018 06:35
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Halser posted:I have no experience with the MMR vaccine turning me into loving Magneto, sadly I’d be vaccinating the poo poo out of myself everyday if there was even a chance I’d get magneto powers.
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Sep 17, 2018 22:54
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I want to believe this is fake. With all my heart, I want this to be fake. But I know it's probably real 
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Sep 17, 2018 23:09
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My favorite thing about the vaccine debate, is just how old it is. Benjamin Franklin even wrote a piece in favor for vaccines after his grandson died after his wife refused to have the child vaccinated.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:29
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Johny-on-the-Spot posted:My favorite thing about the vaccine debate, is just how old it is. Benjamin Franklin even wrote a piece in favor for vaccines after his grandson died after his wife refused to have the child vaccinated. never says a word to her face but brutally trashes her over the course of a 3 week serialised takedown in ye olde washington post
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Sep 17, 2018 23:42
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lol but seriously I posted:never says a word to her face but brutally trashes her over the course of a 3 week serialised takedown in ye olde washington post Just like OP and his sister in law
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Sep 17, 2018 23:54
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Johny-on-the-Spot posted:Just like OP and his sister in law I also have gout and self-publish my own almanac.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:31
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Early to bed and early to rise, said the famously late-rising, hard-partier that became an ambassador so he could forge a foreign alliance while banging French women 24/7. And he invented electricity and glasses when he got too tired to gently caress which history tells us was only twice
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Sep 18, 2018 00:59
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Just a reminder that Doctors, Scientists, and loved ones telling anti-vaxxers facts and stats doesn't change minds. The more proof you sling their way, the more their irrational belief is cemented, the more their misguided conclusions are vindicated. Even the most unimaginable tragedy (losing a child to a disease they were not vaccinated for) isn't a guarantee that they will change their minds.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:43
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have you considered holding your sister in law upside down by her ankles and shaking the stupid out of her
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Sep 18, 2018 03:04
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Applewhite posted:My wife is taking pro, idiot christian sister in law who's stupid taking con. Me: listening to the argument go round and round in circles forever. drat, never figured you for a married man Applewhite.
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Sep 18, 2018 03:49
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Salty Josh posted:drat, never figured you for a married man Applewhite. Who do you think modeled for Space rear end?
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Sep 18, 2018 04:10
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Applewhite posted:Who do you think modeled for Space rear end? never figured you for a currently married man then.
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Sep 18, 2018 04:15
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Applewhite's wife has a nice butt
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Sep 18, 2018 07:14
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reignofevil posted:You need to let a little anti vax into your life so that when you encounter a full blown case your system can recognize it and react with the proper antibodies lolling irl sorry about your idiot family, buddy.
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Sep 18, 2018 08:37
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Julius CSAR posted:I want to believe this is fake. With all my heart, I want this to be fake. I'm pretty sure it's someone trolling but, lol, a morbidly obese reality TV star rapist conman is president who who knows what the gently caress is satire or not anymore?
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Sep 18, 2018 09:51
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Blistex posted:Just a reminder that Doctors, Scientists, and loved ones telling anti-vaxxers facts and stats doesn't change minds. The more proof you sling their way, the more their irrational belief is cemented, the more their misguided conclusions are vindicated. Even the most unimaginable tragedy (losing a child to a disease they were not vaccinated for) isn't a guarantee that they will change their minds. there is some hope as it turns out the last several decades of psychological research is all just made up lies so maybe this is a case where two wrongs might make it right?
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Sep 18, 2018 12:21
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lol but seriously I posted:there is some hope as it turns out the last several decades of psychological research is all just made up lies so maybe this is a case where two wrongs might make it right? It's all an elaborate Bluth-esque lesson to teach the American people about the importance of education.
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Sep 18, 2018 14:29
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When this happens to me I ignore it because I have heard immunity.
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Sep 18, 2018 17:50
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Elman posted:Just to be clear you actually are immune, assuming the vaccine works, right? It's just that they don't work in 100% of all people, and also some people can't be vaccinated for various reasons, so ideally you want herd immunity to be high in order to protect them. Nah it's like percentage chances on top of percentage chances. A vaccine gives you antibodies that recognize the disease pathogen, which means your immune system will react to it before it establishes itself and starts replicating faster than you can keep up. But maybe your immune system is trashed when you get exposed to it, or you've just been sick with something else, or you got exposed to an unusually large load of viruses because your coworker can in sick with measles and you spent an entire day sharing a cubicle with them coughing on you. Immune systems aren't perfect. Rather than thinking of vaccines as 100% immunity, think of them as giving you a huge head start in a race against the disease making you sick. There's always the chance for some tortoise and hare type poo poo to go wrong. So even if you are vaccinated and it worked, you should prefer not to be exposed to measles by some idiot anti-vaxxer.
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Sep 18, 2018 17:55
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Applewhite posted:I also have gout and self-publish my own almanac. id read that
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Blistex posted:Just a reminder that Doctors, Scientists, and loved ones telling anti-vaxxers facts and stats doesn't change minds. The more proof you sling their way, the more their irrational belief is cemented, the more their misguided conclusions are vindicated. Even the most unimaginable tragedy (losing a child to a disease they were not vaccinated for) isn't a guarantee that they will change their minds. if you are genuinely interesting in changing such a persons mind, you have to identifiy the secondary and tertiary beliefs that support the dangerous but well-guarded belief. you can often engage these and make progress which opens up the possibility for later more substantial progress.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:02
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Ocean Book posted:if you are genuinely interesting in changing such a persons mind, you have to identifiy the secondary and tertiary beliefs that support the dangerous but well-guarded belief. you can often engage these and make progress which opens up the possibility for later more substantial progress. Are there any stats of that sort of success? Those people are very hard to sway. There was a program I saw on TV one time where they took 10 anti-vaxxers and took them to visit people who had been exposed to different diseases and had not been immunized. One lady was in an iron lung, another guy was sterile and his face looked worse than the moon from measles, another mother lost a child recently because she didn't get it vaccinated, etc. They took these 10 people through the whole process. 1. Here is what vaccines do. 2. Here is where the vaccines=autism BS started, and how it was discredited instantly. Here is the guy's ulterior motives. 3. Here are the most famous anti-vaxxers, here are how they became famous, here is the amount of schooling they have done. 4. Here is what happens when you don't get your kids vaccinated (horrorshow of victims and grieving mothers) 5. Here are some really eloquent and relate-able doctors explaining "mercury" and "herd immunity" etc in really easy to understand terms. 6. Here are some ex-anti-vaxxers and they are explaining how and why they were idiots, and how and why they no longer are. 7. Here is a loving picture-chart explaining how anti-vaxxer advocates directly make money from their misinformation. 8. Here is a fuckton of statistical data from 50 different countries about vaccinating, autism, and how there is no relation. 9. Here is a doctor who makes a fixed salary, a doctor in a communist country, a doctor in a private clinic, and a doctor in a 3rd world hut saying the same thing (get vaccinated). 10. Here is a time-lapse clip of a vaccinated dog and one that wasn't, being exposed to a virus back in the 1960's. (not an easy watch) At the end of the program nobody changed their minds, and most felt even more confident they were doing the right thing.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:36
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thats all stuff directly attacking the well-defended belief. I mean something thats really ancillary to the primary belief, like a conversation about epistemology. when the underlying beliefs that are taken for granted are shaken or removed, theres less structural support for the well-defended belief. theres no immediate results or guarantee of eventual results, its just about making the situation into a non-zero chance of success.
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Sep 18, 2018 19:08
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Ocean Book posted:thats all stuff directly attacking the well-defended belief. I mean something thats really ancillary to the primary belief, like a conversation about epistemology. when the underlying beliefs that are taken for granted are shaken or removed, theres less structural support for the well-defended belief. Although not rooted in quite the same way as anti-vaccine ideology, this is also just about the only strategy that seems to work with climate change denial. When you're dealing with "top-down" ideological memes and the "belief systems" (or rather, collection of poo poo people habitually say in response to certain prompts), you have to approach it laterally. So when talking with, say, rural people in the U.S., who are disproportionately affected by climate change but more likely to have a dubious view of "Climate Change," I talk about "changes in weather patterns over time ( or "climate," lol)," "serious rainfall events," "changes in hail damage," "drought impacts," and so on. With anti-vaccine people, though, I have a hard time seeing what the structural supports are. Something like all doctors are bad/money grubbing? Nature is clean/harmless and science is dirty/dangerous? Secret knowledge is more valuable that generally accepted knowledge?
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Sep 18, 2018 19:21
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Blistex posted:Are there any stats of that sort of success? Those people are very hard to sway. Imagine a religion that is anti-vax X1000. That is Christian Science. Spouses and children, parents, whatever, all dying in pain of an easily cured illness and yet.... "There is no Life, Truth, intelligence, or substance in matter. All is infinite Mind and it's infinite manifestation for God is all." ^ Mary Baker Eddy, founder of C.S. That is what they will pray^^^^
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Sep 18, 2018 20:05
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In more simple terms; you have to unfuck their entire brain first and see what issue is preventing them from thinking rationally. During that whole 10 steps those dildos were probably thinking "the lies of big pharma run deep."
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Sep 18, 2018 21:30
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I read up on it some because I have close family in the cult. The only thing that frees someone from that kind of brainwashing is usually death of a child, and it is still iffy then. The amount of mental impairment was compared to having been a child soldier.
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Sep 18, 2018 21:37
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have sex with her
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Sep 18, 2018 21:37
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There’s a pretty good thread in CSPAM about fascist belief structures that I feel very much mirrors the anti-vac crowd
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Sep 18, 2018 21:55
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vaccinate DEEZ
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Chinatown posted:vaccinate DEEZ Eat fresh u loving SOB
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