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Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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pika pika

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Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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greetings

Yami Fenrir posted:

Dancer swallows someone whole. Hot drat!

didn't even chew

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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happy birthday icephoenix my present to you is a hearty congratulations

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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imgay posted:

Now that we've established this, lets hunt actually scum. I'm actively disgusted that someone actually voted for me. I almost want to barf.

who are your scum reads?


SalTheBard posted:

I said it during 5th Element mafia and I was telling the truth. In fact the only time I've ever lied was when I was scum!

me too! also both dancer and bminus were in that game but they both vote toalpaz for saying light aligned? why guys?

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Toalpaz posted:

I'm pretty sure AA commented last game that Imgay failed to keep it 100 then.

there are some key words to define in that statement tbh, like "keeping" and "100" and "it"

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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imgay posted:

I don't have any its still the jokephase you monster.

curse jokephase curse it to heck

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Toalpaz posted:

AA's been pretty unfunny this joke phase. Maybe AA is just trying to see if something sticks to lunch em.

i feel ok about aa atm

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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b-minus1 posted:

Slamburger appears to be stuck in jokephase

hey bminus can you answer my earlier question re: toalpaz?


Epsilon Plus posted:

your alcohol consumption reveals your true scum-like nature

your inhibitions are lowered

your stench is in the air

ew gross

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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b-minus1 posted:

scummy posts + light alignment. i didn't expect toalpaz to say that the light alignment was a reference to the shadow alignment from the fifth element game. i thought it could be another "town" alignment similar to icephoenix's recent game (prey I think) where there were two "town factions". so i believe toalpaz's explanation but im not gonna unvote because im still getting scummy vibes from their posts.

thanks. are there any particular posts that are pinging you?

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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SolusLunes posted:

I haven't played enough SA mafia to know this, but is it common for the mods to suggest fakeclaims for scum?

i don't know about normally but in this case yami has flagged it

Yami Fenrir posted:


6. Flavour is flavour, you’re welcome to pursue arguments on it if you want. However, scum are backed by elaborate fakeclaims. Additionally whilst I try to retain flavour justification for many abilities, they will not always match expectations.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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i'm a gen 1 pokemon according to my detailed research (google)

you know on reflection i've never caught a pokemon irl, -sad

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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i thought you'd only played one game toalpaz?

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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good afternoon

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

##evolve AA

Maybe itll save me :shrug:

do you know this? i'd rather evolve maybe sal if you just gunna die tonight, rather than waste an evolve.

IcePhoenix posted:

That is an incredibly fast turnaround between "I'm voting this way because of yesterday" and just flat out "well he did this" by Sal.

this is your first response to sals claim? so what did you do when you visited aa then ip? cause you aren't saying you didn't

on page 17 sorry if this was answered earlier


why

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Jun 9, 2005

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Epsilon Plus posted:

lmao I forgot to use my (lovely, worthless) night action, which is okay, because it's lovely and worthless

Epsilon Plus posted:

my reasoning is that I'm mildly salty that I only get my own personal scumhunter skillset in a role madness game


no I can still submit a night action, I can even target it! it just... does nothing


do I think not having Splash as my ability would be significant? do I think no longer being defacto-vanilla would be significant? yes

why would you want to use an action that does nothing except clutter up night phase?

what do you think of the sal and ip stuff?

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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IcePhoenix posted:

One of these wouldn't show anyone else who may have visited :thunk:

Anyway I'm out with friends for the night but I'm not a fan of the sal/aa combo with more holes than swiss cheese

what exactly bugs you about aa? the only reason i can think of for him to claim poison is to get the evolve, which is possible but pretty unlikely and very risky for scum. also i'm interested that you haven't claimed yourself yet given sal saw you visit aa.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Dick Bastardly posted:

to clarify, we can't rule out that IP's action wasn't messed with, so until IP comes in to have a word then I'll withhold my vote (but I would vote IP in absence of a solid defense)

I do believe Sal's soft claim and see no good reason not to evolve Sal.

i've not been suss of db until this post.

ip posted and said nothing except throw shade on sal, didn't claim, didn't say he visited someone else. these are not the actions of an innocent man imo.

epsilon stuff could possibly be an attempt to draw votes away from scum poisoner

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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good afternoon

Dick Bastardly posted:

It's hard to argue with this and I am inclined to vote IP as I've mentioned before. We have plenty of time yet before deadline so I don't see how my refusal to participate in a turbo makes me scummy, but ok.

this is a fair comment, i intend to vote ip but haven't yet for turbo reasons. i do think it is strange to note you were waiting for ip to check in when he'd already done so though

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

No it doesn't. It was my action and I received no notifications. Are you an sk

this may not be a clue aa, rules say

A note about result language

1. A result that successfully targets will yield the result. "You successfully x your target"
2. A result that does not successfully target will yield the result. "Your action fails."
3. If a player name is ever mentioned as part of a result, this is a mod error.
4. A "successful" target is defined as an ability resolving on someone. This does not have to be the intended target, so a redirected result will yield the same language as a result that has not been redirected.


it seems to indicate both will be informed, maybe you didn't get your notification by accident

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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SolusLunes posted:

##evolve Dancer

Now that the important stuff is out of the way, I just want to ask a single question.

Why the hell aren't we addressing the weird-as-gently caress attempted turbo on DB?



Seriously, look at that. If you don't think most of scum is in that list, lol.

And if there was such a push on DB then, why isn't there one now? E+ is the only one with a vote on him, and I don't see him as scum.


That's a pretty normal thing for Sal's town game. Weird, I know.

Let's not ignore one last thing though: has imgay had a single worthwhile content vote?

We're all ignoring him pretty hard, and haven't really responded to anything he's said/cased him at all. He's doing a perfect job flying under the radar by being incomprehensible and no-content posting to the point that nobody else wants to engage. It's extremely solid scum play if you've managed to get everyone to basically forget you in plain sight.

db can be an easy lunch to push (sorry db) but im interested in who you think is scum on the db vot.? i saw you were suss of toal earlier, is this still the case? i still think the light aligned thing was a joke and i'm not getting pinged by his/her other posts.

of those people i'm most suss of hal and ggn at this point

SalTheBard posted:

Right I get that. What I'm assuming IP's defense is "I went to poison someone else, I got bus driven into AA, Sal didn't see who Bus Drove me. Please don't cuddle me I'm town."

he wouldn't know he got driven to aa though, since he would only be told his action was successful or not.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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all alone...

some casing.

ggn

should note i haven't played with ggn before, but

votes to evolve ip during early evolve voting

GenericGirlName posted:

Yea sure, let's all have a good time.

##evolve IcePheonix

don't mind her posts re: dancers action, but alot of her posting is flavour and setup spec. this may be bc she is a newish player and but it is alot of focus on that and not scum hunting.

i don't like this post - bminus called out the people who voted to evolve ip in the below post ( i don't know how to include his quotes sorry)

b-minus1 posted:

Look at the people who voted to evolve icephoenix (I condensed a few posts btw):

AA called out and voted icephoenix for "ending jokephase" and I'm not getting scum vibes from humalong. But everyone else? absolutely.

I'm aware that I'm tunneling pretty hard on a few players right now, which is why I would like some input from everyone else. But to me this looks like scum voting to evolve one of their own.


@Dancer: are you opposed to a GGN lynch?

and she responded with

GenericGirlName posted:

I genuinely hate this case and the similar case someone had earlier about the use of metronome. It really sucks that people deciding to use the mechanics available to them is "scummy" instead of people wanting to explore this cool setup someone made.

feels like newbie scum getting scared off the evolve vote and she moves to dancer

i noted this post close to deadline

GenericGirlName posted:

DB and IS both have similarly low effort posts that can be construed as scummy. I think IS's flip gives more info but I'm down for either to avoid a no lynch

but she does not vote sober, switches to db after he claims lunchbomb

today she's not really commented on on the ip situation at all, but i did notice this post about db

GenericGirlName posted:

I'm making note for myself; gut read on this post today is; scummt

which seems suss to me after her stance yesterday

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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hal
less to go on but these ping me

votes db day 1, case is his gut says he is scum. makes this post

Hal Incandenza posted:

Hrm I could see voting IS, but it should be DB

possible light bussing of scum bud but still saying it should be db

Hal Incandenza posted:

DB/IS/E+ scumbros

he clarifies he means ip not sober later, but i don't like how this reads and there is no casing. most of his other posts do not look like scum hunting just commentary

##evolve dance

i'll be back to vote ip later this eve/early this morning

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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##evolve dancer

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Nah, you're understanding it incorrectly. There was no mod mistake. I just don't get notifications for metronome. Also the hider person shouldn't have either.

ok sorry i went and took another look.

##vote ip

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Jun 9, 2005

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SolusLunes posted:

About four people- most suspicious of Humalong on that vote, then imgay, toal, and hal, in that order. I think I'm probably inordinately suspicious of imgay but I can't ignore that no-content posting. Getting less suspicious of toal as time goes on, but I won't hesitate to jump on a turbo for toal.

I ought make a case for humalong today, and to help me concrete in my mind why he's pinging me as hard as he is.

i'm having trouble reading imgay, i would like to know who he thinks is scum. i think the whole light aligned read on toal is weak tbh, what changed your mind? i was fine with humalongs posting day 1 though it would be nice to see his thoughts on our current situation.

what are your thoughts on ggn?

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Jun 9, 2005

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imgay posted:

Hmm...I saw Dick bastardly go to sal last night, but isn't he just supposed to be a lynch bomb why would he visit someone hmm.... Hey wait sal said he was roleblocked.... hmmm

##vote Dick

nice, i see aa is also still alive, a good night

Hal Incandenza posted:

I’ll help. I tracked DB to Sal last night and I tracked DB to IS night 1, he’s definitely a roleblocker

interesting. you may have explained this later but why didn't you mention this yesterday?

Dancer posted:

So, here's a small and possibly indecent proposal.

Because magic, last night I have been made aware of the name of a specific move that exists in the game. I strongly believe that this move is held by a town player.

For all townies, I have this request: go to your move name, convert each letter to a number (a=1, b=2, c=3, etc), and calculate the average of those numbers.

If the result you get is exactly 13.5, odds are very good that I have been made aware of exactly your move. If you prove this to me somehow (e.g. By mentioning a few specific letters from the move name; you get to decide how sneaky you want to be; heck you might even be fine with the entire move name), I will confirm that you are, by my judgment, 99% likely to be town. It ends up kinda like a mason claim, basically.

It's also possible you want to just stay hidden. That's cool too.

close but no cigar

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Jun 9, 2005

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IllegallySober posted:

I don't want to rush the vote here but also don't want to die to a bomb. That said, I'm not sure he really is a bomb, anyway.

Let's still wait this out a bit. I think there's others that have yet to check in as well.

noting this post along with sober being jailed last night

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Jun 9, 2005

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Hal Incandenza posted:

Well DB blocked him N1 so if nothing else they aren’t on the same scum team

hm assuming db flips blocker this is a fair point

Hal Incandenza posted:

I mean I made it quite clear yesterday I still wanted to vote DB but I didn’t want to outright claim especially since someone else could theoretically have blocked IS I just knew DB visited him

but db claimed lunchbomb day 1, so him wondering around proved him a liar anyway surely?

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Jun 9, 2005

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Dick Bastardly posted:

Or they saw someone that isn't me doing night stuff but looks like me for some reason?
Ditto-type deal or....?

this is a stretch, you seem desperate db :henget:

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Jun 9, 2005

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Dick Bastardly posted:

bussing is a thing

you're saying he didn't just bus, but claimed an action and started the lunch train. i don't think so.

but lets assume you're right, who do you think are sals scum buds?

Toalpaz posted:

I'm on my phone! I don't have a strong opinion, I remember day 1 I thought they were vaguely scummy but it's been a while. I just can't sift thru posts atm but maybe in several hours.


I'd be wary of Soda, they havent said anything today. They offer reads, but usually aren't super involved in hunting. They aren't convincing and I think are playing passively to slide under our radar.

you made this post 5 hours after the thread opened. what do you think of my reads, specifically, i made several yesterday. sorry i'm not convincing to you?

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Jun 9, 2005

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Toalpaz posted:

Sooooooda pop, don't you usually weigh in about now?

i'll pop you!

i had family over today, nice of you to notice though : )

Dancer posted:

Soda's on the shortlist for today's Metronome, for whatever that's worth.

ooo exciting!

hi slam, thanks for the list

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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i'm also interested to hear about this

GenericGirlName posted:

I'm reading imgay and IS as scum and am rereading to put together a long post. I will say for now that I don't imgay has provided any content/reads of his own in this game.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Yami Fenrir posted:

Dancer uses Self-Destruct!

Mr. Humalong, Nihilego (Scum-Aligned Witch) has been killed Day 3.
Dancer, Togekiss (Town-Aligned Gambler) has been killed Day 3.

lol nice dancer, we'll miss you.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Here's something though... scum didn't secure a kill last night. So maybe one of em was scum.

How do I know this you ask?

Because I can claim sober and dancer flipless town.

My jail has a 2nd part. Which is why I didn't jail e+ night 1.

Consecutive jail is a janitored kill.

I used it on sober again because I felt he was scum.

One of those 2 had to be scum because there was no scum kill.

I'm almost willing to bet sal is a 3p. Mew would be a good claim for mewtwo obviously lol or just in general.

Flavor it useless though.

Has to be 1 more scum


Anyhow I've got some yardwork to get into before it gets too hot.

i get that you think sober was scum, but you say you knew the kill would be janitored, i'm interested why you thought it was still worth killing?

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Jun 9, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I think it should be me or maybe soda? Unless shes scum in which case ugh.

aww shucks. aren't you more sure about yourself aa re: the evolve vote? why me?

Slamburger posted:

Why Soda? Has she even claimed her ability? I think she's the only unclaimed one left.

what he said

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Jun 9, 2005

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GenericGirlName posted:

100% agreed. I still don't want to evolve but the idea of another vig is very tempting to make sure we get it right. But I don't think it's super necessary.

##evolve genericgirlname

"vig"

also read this post.

she 100% agrees with slam that casework is the way.

doesn't want to evolve but a vig is tempting

but its not really necessary

then she votes to evolve herself.

she changes her mind four times in this post.

SolusLunes posted:

Best thing I've got going for me I suppose is attempts at scumhunting/my attempting to jump on the alleged grenade that was DB (until he scum-selfhammered.) Slam watched me N1, and I didn't go kill anyone (because I don't actually have an active night ability, just my oneshot BP).

I guess the scummiest thing I've done is scumhunt in the people who attempted to D1 lynch DB- and then it turned out that everyone else who objected to it was scum. So it goes.

I do agree with you that Imgay and Slam are town, and that you're town. I'm only like 90% sure on AA but good enough for me to dismiss him being scum. I wish Toal had flipped so I could have justified my suspicions on them or not.

scum would have known that db was not a lunchbomb and would not have worried on that front about hammering. db was also pretty caught at this stage so i'm not inclined to give you town credit for this.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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good morning everyone!

##evolve aa

i got a long trip this afternoon spending the weekend with the inlaws. i was gunna vote before i left in about 3 hours.

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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imgay posted:

Do it tomorrow

i can leave it to someone else to do if you like but i am very happy to vote ggn

Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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ok. will check in before i head off

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Jun 9, 2005

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GenericGirlName posted:

Imgay's low effort D1 and D2 pings me as scum. he could be being opportunistic about someone else deciding I'm scum and following along.

Similarly I don't feel like Soda has done much of any casing but decided to build a case off me being wishywashy in a post where I directly say I'm unsure about being evolved and exactly why I feel that way. But this is suspicious because ??????

That being said thinking they're scum instead of hesitant town goes against my own posting and I can see that angle even though I find (today) soda to be the most suspicious but I've always had lingering doubts about imgay. Problem is, I kind of was hoping for more town to talk through the options so I could find something that felt better than falling into the SA lurkers are scum trap. Except....no one will discuss anything except how they Know I'm scum :/

i'm suss of that post not so much because you are being wishywashy, but because your posting like you want town cred for being hesitant while also trying to secure the evolve. i also made a case against you earlier.

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Atomic Soda
Jun 9, 2005

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that was a looooong drive, i hate sydney traffic.

do people still want to wait for hammer?

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