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seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Phlag posted:

Needing to sleep in a coffin seems like an unnecessary logistical burden that Murph normally would've let them omit, but he hates PC vampires too much. (Although maybe he'll let it slide a bit by letting them cram it in the bag of holding.)

I hope they do go the reincarnation route (as opposed to some deus ex machina-style wish or true resurrection). I've always thought that was a fun D&D mechanic, and it'd be a fantastic moment for Moonshine.

I was always under the impression that an easier way to bring back a vampire is to kill it for good, then raise dead on the body. Assuming Hardwon was ok with them killing him to get him back, which he probably would be. Reincarnate would be funnier though.

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seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




timp posted:

I initially floated that idea, but the more I think about it, won’t Hardwon just turn to mist and float back to his new coffin when his HP goes to zero? And if they tried to kill kill him, I’m guessing he’d just straight up disappear.

In other words, what body?

I think it depends on the exact rules of the vampires they're using. Sometimes they turn to dust when killed permanently, which could count as the remains, or they're now just a dead body. I know they killed the other ones by filling the coffins with water, but did they ever say what happened after they killed them?

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

Yeah, Emily has said that she doesn't want to awaken Paw Paw, because (a) she loves the animalistic noises he makes too much to leave behind and have him talking and because (b) she thinks of him as already being essentially awakened anyway, given all the silly stuff they have him doing, like trying cases, making outfits and the fact he can perfectly understand them and even communicate precise information via his "rerr rirr" noises. He just speaks a different language at this point in time, essentially. I'm just curious as to how Emily will develop him in future really, given how much they've already done with him throughout the show.


I've seen some speculation that Murph will eventually end up having the Band of Boobs find some kind of item that allows Paw Paw to recover in a different dimension of some kind if he's killed in battle, sort of like a Pokeball, because apparently Vex\Laura from Critical Role needed much the same before she was entirely comfortable using her animal familiar in battle. I imagine you could probably home brew some kind of magic that ties Paw Paw's life force to Moonshine, so that he can't die unless she dies or something. That might even already the case automatically with familiars for all I know, since I've never played D'n'D and am only going off second hand knowledge through podcasts and some light browsing. I vaguely recall something similar being said of Mee Maw and Maw Maw actually, so maybe that's part of awaken or another spell druids have access to as well.

Usually a familiar can die, and older versions of D&D it caused some pretty serious consequences for the owner. That's not to say your idea of some kind of life-link with Moonshine wouldn't be easily doable. There were spells or abilities where whatever damage one person took, the other took it instead. Whipping up something like that, where if Paw Paw gets too messed up it automatically kicks in and Moonshine takes all the damage, or a Sanctuary spell that kicks in whenever he's knocked unconscious. There's a million ways you could prevent his death, if they really wanted to.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




theCalamity posted:

Brennan switching right to Ricky was the icing on the cake lmao

I think the bit around there where he realized he let her replicate Clairvoyance as only a second level caster was the best, the look on his face was amazing.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Not Operator posted:

Yeah, Avernus/Baldur's Gate(?) was their last big stream event. I only watched the sections with Alex Lee and the McElroy's in it, and between them they really ruined a lot of True Roleplayers's days. It was gorgeous.

Joe Manganiello was not prepared.

Do you know which one that was? It sounds pretty hilarious.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




eke out posted:

the wildest thing about the live show is that it's 99% as good as the tightly-edited, polished pre-recorded stuff they were putting out before.

also lou laughing uncontrollably as he realizes he's probably going to get himself killed in the most colossally stupid way possible, which is 100% in character and the only thing he can do right there, was perfect

I loved Brennan just kind of guiding Lou to kicking down the door rather than just opening it and walking out normally. There was no way it was going to end well, but at least he got to start it like a badass.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




I guess I'll be buying more of the shirts they come out with each week. That'll help, right?

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




eke out posted:

drawfee and d20 could definitely be totally successful on patreon alone, it's a shame that CH probably owns the IP so they can't just do it themselves

although obviously the non-live dimension20 is super heavily edited and has a ton of people working on it, it's something that they could easily scale back given the sheer strength of the live shows so far

I wonder if there's any possibility of teaming up with Critical Role. They've already got a setup and a studio and the associated infrastructure, it'd just be on a different day. Kind of like Geek and Sundry was trying to do.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

I've never played D'n'D and don't have any preconceived notions or attachments to creatures like the Terrasque, but if I did, I have to imagine it'd be hard to view it the same again after this episode. The comedic addition of it having the stupidest sounding cry, where it sounds like it's shouting through a ball gag or something the whole time just makes it so silly, especially when you have things like Apple surfing it's poo poo after barely getting scratched the whole fight.

I didn't realize how much they'd neutered it compared to previous incarnations. It used to be legit terrifying to even epic level adventurers, now it's just a dragon without the breath weapon. It's kind of sad.

And the delay for this weeks episode made me sign up for the patreon, and the short rests are pretty good so far.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Tenik posted:

Every season of Dimension 20 is fantastic. Everyone should get a Dropout account and binge watch all of them.

But will my bones be ok if I do so? I don't want anything to happen to my bones.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Are the mixed bags worth it? I like the short rests, I'm just trying to decide if I want to splurge and go to 10 bucks a month.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Ainsley McTree posted:

I hope we get a full episode of them playing the Bahumia equivalent of gwent

They could go back to that casino in Hell. Maybe Beverly can have someone throw a knife at him again.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




eke out posted:


i mean, obviously they have to deal with the n*ght y*rb

Goddamnit, how many times do we have to say to not talk about it? Did you see what happened the last time people kept talking about it?

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




They're finally doing the Tomb of Horrors, and it's streamed this Saturday. gently caress yes.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Ainsley McTree posted:

Will Binky Fiasco be there

They did not say, only that the boobs would be going through it.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Ainsley McTree posted:

I was excited for nautical adventure but I'm even happier about this tbh

I am too. It sounds too much like people I knew to not be hilarious.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

What's "Graduation"?

It's the Adventure Zone's new campaign. I think they're going weekly right now though, although it's not nearly as popular as previous ones.

And todays DM court was fun as hell.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




VaultAggie posted:

It’s been so long since I heard him, I was dying once Murphy started the bit.

It escalated real, real quick too, holy poo poo.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Apparently they have a print shop for fan art now, with the proceeds going to the artist. I'm tempted by a few of them.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




timp posted:

Yeah, I feel like all of my podcasts are existing in the same orbit as one another these days. Hey Riddle Riddle and Dungeons and Daddies just did 2 crossover episodes and it absolutely blew my mind when it was announced. I love both of those podcasts and I didn't even know that they were aware of one another's existence, let alone down to do crossovers.

But yeah, I was excited to see Brennan and Freddie talking because it brings us one step closer to the crossover I actually want the most: the Dungeons and Daddies cast on a side-quest season of Dimension 20 like the McElroys did with Tiny Heist

fake edit: OH and I'm also working through Rude Tales of Magic and, though I haven't gotten to the actual episode yet, it looks like Brennan guests in that. Dude gets around!! Brennan Lee Mulligan that is. Not docbeard.

Dungeons and Daddies did a bit of a crossover with Stream of Blood and a Cthulu mythos thing. Wasn't the full cast, but it was pretty good. Their Cthulu show is usually pretty funny and has some recurring characters. Their Coven one is pretty good too, if for no other reason than it's three people who hadn't played an RPG until this, and so they solve problems in common sense ways rather than doing the murderhobo or murderhobo adjacent ways.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




I figured there'd be a week or two of filler just so they can get it set up and ready. I know they're probably doing a Dimension 20 sidequest around now, so they might have needed extra time to get it all set up.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Today's short rest gave some info on the next campaign, and it sounds pretty badass to me. Nothing on the characters and no in depth stuff but it sounded cool.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Not Operator posted:

They had some video podcasts too, and I was extremely fond of Rekha and Jess's Erotic Book Club.

They said that's coming back soon. The art for those is always hilarious.

theCalamity posted:

There is an episode of Breaking News that always gets me. It’s from last year and it’s with Brennan, Erika Ishii, Amy Vorphal, and the host of Um Actually and Amy attempts to do a face that prevents her from laughing but it backfires horribly.


I love that show, and they reference that face every time she's on the show afterwards. She's still terrible at not laughing.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Definitely still going to be a bit darker than Bahumia, but definitely not grimdark. The books being sentient alone should be fun as poo poo.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

Yeah, Murph starting to talk about how Eldermourne would be a bit darker, with gothic touches and no cosmic bugs etc. being immediately punctured by Emily going "wait...no Starspawn?" is a good sign to me that they'll never let the tone get too serious or dark even if it'll lean a bit more in that direction. The fact that Emily has sentient books that argue with her or bite, Jake has a sarcastic shadow that's acting up and Caldwell has Droppy Dog as an Elf are all good signs too.

Yeah, this doesn't seem like a TAZ pivot to super grimdark. It'll definitely have a different tone, but even Bahumia had some dark/sad moments. The players being good at this and wanting to have fun should keep it entertaining.


RC Cola posted:

Someone convince me the short rests are worth the money

Definitely worth it, like someone said the baggin' it with Balnor episodes are amazing. But even the peek behind the curtain it gives you is very fun. Murph usually has some interesting stuff planned even if it wasn't used that they'll talk about, or how it could have gone with different dice rolls. It's also just them shooting the poo poo about D&D a lot, and saying why they did some of the things they did. I would recommend the 5$ to start, if you really like it move up to the 10. It's a little less often they post there, but still fun as poo poo.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Dr Christmas posted:

I just finished the Feywild arc, and I’m tempted to buy into Short Rest just to hear more about the witch’s game.
How Murph was expecting it to go, what he did right/wrong, whether putting such an scenario in a tabletop game is even feasible, etc.

I’m only halfway through the main story and haven’t even gotten into Trinyvale or any side content except the Christmas episode, so I’m not starving for content though.

That is an amazing episode. I'm still tempted to buy the .......Chicken shirt just for that alone.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




eke out posted:

caldwell deserved more credit for "cawfabe"

seriously though, i thought it was a really strong start, i'm looking forward to this campaign

Yeah, cawfabe was loving amazing.

And this is definitely a darker setting, but in no way is the playing actually darker. This episode was hilarious.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

I assume there'll be a short rest for the first Eldermourne episode, but has there been any indication when they plan to put it up yet?

Just went up. They've been moving later and later, hopefully they get back to a thursday schedule at some point.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Tenik posted:

Nah, it's a fair concern, especially after her character on a Crown of Candy was able to wipeout multiple battalions by combining sorcerer metamagic and cleric channel divinity while she rode around on her pet dragon. I can see Emily pulling off a couple clutch moves with her familiar. But, after level 5, she's not going to be able to do anything with it due to its low stats, and it will be forgotten like so many other familiars.

I doubt it'll be forgotten, but I think they're going to stick with the whole "He's a book" thing. That kind of limits what he can really do, even if she did threaten to get him killed and bring him back as an animal familiar. I can see it possibly becoming overpowered, but at some point I think Murph would put his foot down and say "No, it's a book, seriously, he can't climb trees and fling poo poo at people regardless of how funny it would be" or something similar.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:


I've started watching Dimension 20 with the latest season, Pirates of Leviathan, and I'm only part way through the first episode but one thing I'm really enjoying is seeing the cast play some really unusual races, like a Bugbear, a Merwoman by way of a Lamia, a Ratfolk and an Aarakocra, as well as all the cast feeling shadier and less morally upstanding than you generally see in D'n'D Actual Plays; or at least, shadier than I generally see. It makes it immediately stand out a bit, though Brennan's skill at world-building and theater of the mind stuff certainly helps cement things immediately too.

Escape from the Bloodkeep is great for oddball races and somewhat shady characters too. That one's on youtube, but definitely watch the behind the scenes after you finish the final episode. There's some real insanity that happens/doesn't happen that makes it fun as hell. Also, double pants.

And from the livestream yesterday, sounds like they had a decent sized tour planned and then Covid happened so the whole thing got scrapped. They're definitely going to do the live show at that random restaurant as soon as everything opens up though.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




King Crab posted:

I really need to finish Crown of Candy.

I'm dying for AU Goth Murph.

It is truly beautiful, I think he has learned a lot about being a chaos player from Emily and the rest of the group is benefitting from it.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




thecluckmeme posted:

Its as good if not better because this is a post campaign episode. They're level 20.

:getin:

The short rest is amazing this week, if only for realizing why they played the way they did.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




docbeard posted:

I think they've settled on Choo Choo Crew but Murph refuses to accept it.

Yeah, they're still arguing about it on the short rests. The First Mates thing is just from the most recent episode.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




eke out posted:

murph's character in the latest d20 had me nearly crying laughing about Double Blade: Dark Excalibur Thirsting Blade

I wonder how they're going to handle it. Brennan said it weighed like 250 pounds, that's not useable..


And I'm enjoying this mini campaign they're doing right now in NADDPOD, the characters are definitely interesting. The first combat had some cool mechanics, even if Emily once again trivialized it through being an amazing spellcaster.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Gaius Marius posted:

I'm kind of scared for the other two though, it would be weird for Emily and Jake to be playing two people, so I'm worried they're gonna bite it and Jabari's gonna be a guest with the main crew. Although that'd be dope as hell.

I think it's set up far enough away, and they're all old Hexbloods that by the time the main crew got to them they could just die of old age. Or have some other mission to run off on, or they're guest stars on the show they do at that crazy bar out in Virginia or wherever. I'm sure they have it planned out enough in advance.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:


Maybe there's something I'm missing here, but during the Kickstartr campaign for Critical Role there was a good bit of discussion about how difficult it'd be for the cast of that show to organize the reward of a one off meeting of the heroes from both campaigns they did (Vox Machina & the Mighty Nein) and I don't really get why. Isn't that basically what DMs like Murph/Matt do all the time? Switching between established characters, having conversations with themselves and keeping the various personalities/stats straight while doing so? The characters a DM inhabits aren't as strong or established in general, but even in campaign one, Balnor was really fleshed out after a while, and Murph was constantly switching between Balnor and a major supporting character for the arc, or villain for instance. How is it something so expected and mundane for a DM, but everyone always acts like it's implausible to expect it out of players?

A one-off is one thing, you can just refresh yourself on your old character and keep going. You're not dealing with two separate and possibly conflicting sets of character goals. If it's a long term thing, though, it's like playing chess with yourself. It's hard to keep strategies or characters separate. Even the best players would start to blend the two a little, and it might be hard to keep their goals separate from each other.

I don't think it's going to happen though, they'll find some reason to move them off to the rear end end of nowhere or something, so they can meet but won't be working together.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

Since a lot of people were loving Lou in this thread, it's probably worth pointing out that he just did an episode of Adventuring Academy on Dropout with Brennan, where they fully stat out a character. Brennan apparently made sure to keep which character they were going to stat out a secret from Lou while planning it, but wanted to stat out this character in case they ever do another season of Fantasy High, though he made sure to say there were no promises it was going to happen. It's being done as a "just in case" thing, basically. That said, when he tells Lou that they're going to make a full level 20 Scrumbledown Bim, Lou almost walks out of the room.

Still, they go through deciding all the character details: his stats, his class levels, his possessions etc. It's fun to watch. I've never even seen Fantasy High, so I wasn't sure of the significance of the character, but Lou did his best to make him a completely vile dick that he never wants to face, but probably will one day and will hate every second of. Like I said: fun. If history is any indication, then it'll probably be up on YouTube in a week or two for anyone without Dropout who wants to see it.

Well, related to the character they madeLou does face him. It was the boy's night special that's up on Dropout. Chumbledown Bim is a loving monster in that too, all they could really do was run.

I spoilered it in case someone isn't fully caught up on Fantasy High.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

Dimension 20's latest season, Of Mice and Murder started last night. I'm only a few minutes in, but I'm already wondering why they didn't have Siobhan as one of the guests considering the fact it's set in a Fantasy England and she's the one recurring Dropout member who is actually British. Or just made it all new faces, for that matter. I like Ally, but she's the one cast member who's a regular on the show, so I wish they'd replaced her with someone else. Rekha was one of the best parts of Escape from the Bloodkeep and I kind of wish they'd replaced her too, honestly, even if she only did one season before this.. It'd be cool to see Jake or Caldwell on a season of Dimension 20, for instance. Adam Conover, Erika Ishii etc. are cool people they could have used from within the Dropout stable too, and it's obvious they have connections within the wider D&D space at this point considering some of the other guests they've had over the years/seasons.

With Sam Reich there, I think it was a way for them to get some of their friends paying jobs during the pandemic, rather than getting the perfect cast. The usual people they get seem to have other jobs right now, but I know a lot of the other shows aren't getting renewed on Dropout right now. I believe Sam in particular had said he wanted to be on one of the seasons just for the fun of it, but the rest are probably for variety and helping their friends.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




tsob posted:

Having just listened to the latest episode and accompanying Short Rest I would like to say that I am totally down for the main campaign to go on hiatus for a few weeks again following the end of this arc so that the gang can play a side quest as bad guys in Eldermourne. Reaper's Creepers sounds fun as gently caress.

I don't know if Caldwell would step away again for a few more weeks of paternal leave, though I assume not, but it'd be cool to get a guest on for a few weeks for that short campaign, whether to replace someone or simply to join the full crew. Actually, it sounds kind of awesome to have a mini campaign of 2 to 4 episodes between every arc or three with one guest along each time. It'd give Murphy time to plan out bigger stuff, everyone would get to gently caress around with weird builds they'd never play long term, they could do some fun world building etc.

You could easily keep Caldwell in it for a side quest like that. Having characters they don't necessarily need to survive is always fun for a break. Though I think it's just as much work for the DM on these to set up a side quest as it is to do the main thing. Having one of the other 3 run it, or have a guest DM come in for a bit would be better I think. Hell, bring in Brennan or Lou, or there's a bunch of DM's out there now that would probably love to get some free promotion from running a game on a hugely popular podcast.

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seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




docbeard posted:

I believe the current rule is that they do 3 Eldermourne episodes per month and something else (which appears to be pretty much always D&D Court right now) the 4th week. In addition to:


it sounded like this was so that Murph could get a bit ahead in his prepwork for the campaign as it intensifies (especially since now the players are demanding an interlude where they get to play badguys and presumably we're gonna get more Hexbloods stuff with Lou at some point etc.)

And since there were 5 Fridays this month they also did the Trinyvale one-shot.

I'm really enjoying the D&D courts they're doing.

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