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Ingmar terdman posted:Did that ocarina of crime have a metal name too Frankly "Ocarina of Crime" is better than the actual name
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Wylo posted:
You see Red take it in the bikers kitchen, some kind of crazy drug. I think that you see it at the table with the guy making LSD too
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Free Drinks posted:Seeing as it's only 15$ Amazon to preorder I'm 100% willing to toss that much down the well even if I somehow end up hating it (I can't see how I could be anymore than disappointed). Heck, I want to give it money just so Cosmatos can make more movies. He seems like someone that has a vision that really appeals to me but still needs some gestation to be truly great. Though the potential is so loving there. You can rent the movie right now for $6 on Amazon. I would recommend doing that and not reading anything else about the movie until you've seen it. This is a movie that benefits from a blind first watch.
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Sep 18, 2018 05:05
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Wylo posted:What was that goopy poo poo that the cultists gave to the bikers? It didn't look like it was just LSD. Cthulhu Jizz
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ZZZorcerer posted:some kind of crazy drug. I think that you see it at the table with the guy making LSD too
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I'd like to think it's the same poo poo the weirdo scientists in Beyond the Black Rainbow were dosing with since it triggers the same insane melting skull visuals in both movies and it's set in the same year. Wonder if his hair falls out eventually.
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ZZZorcerer posted:
It's the bad batch that the LSD chemist fed to them after a falling out, it's hinted at earlier in the film in dialogue, it was meant to gently caress them up.
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ZZZorcerer posted:
So definitely jizz
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Free Drinks posted:Seeing as it's only 15$ Amazon to preorder I'm 100% willing to toss that much down the well even if I somehow end up hating it (I can't see how I could be anymore than disappointed). If you think you'll like it based on the trailer, you'll like it.
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Sep 18, 2018 15:33
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Yeah, the trailer is pretty much the movie. Except in this case, that's not a bad thing!
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Sep 18, 2018 15:35
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Maybe watch like ten seconds so you don't ruin a few things. You'll either be all about the aesthetic or not right away anyway. I literally bought this movie on the train back from the theater so I can watch it 20 more times until the Bluray drops.
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I saw this movie over the weekend. Unlike a lot of you I thought the soundtrack hurt the movie by making it feel even more deliberate than it already was . Starting with King Crimson was great and got things off on the right foot but too much of the movie was just set to this grinding distorted guitar that, at least in the theatre I was in, was so loud it was physically uncomfortable and made a lot of the already long scenes interminable. I still liked the movie but i think trimming a bit from the beginning and changing out some of the music for more trippy prog rock would immensely improve it. Seeing it in a theatre full of awful hipsters there to watch it ironically also didn’t help - including someone near me who was the garliciest human being I have ever had the misfortune of sitting near.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:52
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I'll be listening to this on repeat for the next few hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKZEBhRX-TU
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The only thing I don't like about the soundtrack is that it doesn't have Sand's cheesy flower power ballad on it.
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Origami Dali posted:The only thing I don't like about the soundtrack is that it doesn't have Sand's cheesy flower power ballad on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hteniPFMfek
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I wanna see this again in a theater so bad but I know I'll never catch an audience that won't laugh through it thanks to cage rage. The only plus is the hearty laughter died halfway into the vodka scene and it just became this kind of nervous laughter instead. Like yeah, the movie knows it's ridiculous but it's not the room for fucks sake. e: my only criticism tbh is the animation segments felt kinda lovely compared to everything else, but it's barely in the movie. It looked like a really low budget "heavy metal" and not in a positive way. e2: can someone give this dude the hellraiser franchise? i'd watch the gently caress out of a cosmatos pinhead movie zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 22:42
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That bathroom scene is brutal. Best Cage scene in years.
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The animation sequences are kind of interesting because they suggest that Red feels ambivalent about or even afraid of Mandy, which adds some interesting (if not very thoroughly explored) texture to the whole revenge-rampage.
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This was real good. Anything similar that hasn't been mentioned in the thread yet?
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Firstborn posted:This was real good. Anything similar that hasn't been mentioned in the thread yet? apologies if any of these have, in fact, already been mentioned In an interview Cosmatos mentions "The Sword and the Sorcerer" and "Conquest" as inspirations. Personally I was a little reminded of Park Chan-Wook's Vengeance Trilogy (most famously including Oldboy but Lady Vengeance is great too.)
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Ah ha ha of loving course Conquest inspired this, I can completely see it in hindsight
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Minor updates on The Beast: 20 minutes of dicking around in TinkerCad means I kinda know how to taper things off?  I also have the template printed and it's now dawning on me how loving big this thing is  I can't promise it'll look anything close to the movie's version (if I even finish it) but I'm having fun
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Ah ha ha of loving course Conquest inspired this, I can completely see it in hindsight My wife and I are similarly laughing out loud having just found this out by reading these posts. It's PERFECT.
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Yeah Conquest makes total sense.
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Origami Dali posted:The chainsaw gag is straight out of Phantasm II. Another one is Mad Max, when she's walking around the woods in the beginning of the movie and sees and sees the dead animal killed by a biker gang. At that point in the movie we take it to mean like some supernatural poo poo is going down but later Bill Duke explains how the Black Skulls (those three bikers) go around gutting animals and stuff. She's drawn to the sound because it sounds like a wolf howl at first but then sounds weird and demonic, and we think it might be too because of where the movie is at that point, but it was one of the bikers howling. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_WDLsLnOSM "Supernatural skull juice hallucinogen" 
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people talk a big game about "nothing supernatural going on" but the truth is it's much better if literal demons from hell just really love drugs and are no match for nicolas cage
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skull juice is the perfect name for it I want to make a real cocktail that looks like weird gray glop and call it "skull juice" now.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:people talk a big game about "nothing supernatural going on" but the truth is it's much better if literal demons from hell just really love drugs and are no match for nicolas cage I like it better that way too the more I think about it for reasons everyone already said, but the time period makes me lean more towards it all being caused by super LSD and everyone being a regular human when I was watching it. You got a lot of this weird killer was given super drugs flicks at the time like Nightmare or Absurd and it reminded me of that and early war on drugs evoking flicks that would explain away their killers that way.
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In my mind its like a fever dream of all the dumb poo poo conservatives feared and believed were real in the 1980's: -Evil human-sacrificing sex cult hanging out in the forest? Check -Drugs turning you into a deranged psychopath? Check -Playing Dungeons and Dragons turns you evil? Check (don't try and tell me the Horn of Abraxis and The Dagger of the Pale Knight aren't some nerd D&D poo poo) -Rock and Roll dude literally brainwashing people? Check All it needs is homophobia and that was probably in there somewhere and I missed it.
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Ghosthotel posted:Even then it sorta gets funky when one of them takes a massive bolt to the throat, pulls it out, and has a huge fight with Red . It definitely felt like, at least for me, that the movie was playing it pretty ambiguously about whether or not supernatural elements were involved. its explicitly supernatural. things can be metaphors.
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zer0spunk posted:I'd like to think it's the same poo poo the weirdo scientists in Beyond the Black Rainbow were dosing with since it triggers the same insane melting skull visuals in both movies and it's set in the same year. Wonder if his hair falls out eventually. this is one hundred percent panos cosmatos trying to set up the panos cosmatos extended universe
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I just want to know if the Barry Manilow song shows up.
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When I was watching the film, I assumed the Jar given to the bikers was blood. Probably it was just the lighting, but it looked darker and less viscous than the lcd hoard. Plus, I thought the bikers' request for blood was worded like they were seeking more blood (though I may have just heard what I wanted to hear).Class Warcraft posted:In my mind its like a fever dream of all the dumb poo poo conservatives feared and believed were real in the 1980's: Actually I think the movie is distinctly trying to take the opposite approach. Our heroes are two honest people sure. But one of the introductory scenes is of Cage deliberately turning off a Reagan speech, and of the two sitting around watching a horror movie. Not to mention the metal t-shirts and fantasy artwork belonging to Mandy. Meanwhile the cult is a bunch of christians deliberately undermining Christ's teachings for personal profit/pleasure. In conclusion, Jesus Freaks are a land of contrasts.
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Sep 19, 2018 09:39
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Me, seeing how much everyone loves this movie:
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SomeJazzyRat posted:When I was watching the film, I assumed the Jar given to the bikers was blood. Probably it was just the lighting, but it looked darker and less viscous than the lcd hoard. Plus, I thought the bikers' request for blood was worded like they were seeking more blood (though I may have just heard what I wanted to hear). Same here, the cult felt like this film's version of Evangeicals to me. You're right about the biker, I definitely heard him say BLOOD, FOR BLOOD, MORE. They offered up the curly haired kid (he gets grabbed while the couple is being abducted).
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Class Warcraft posted:-Playing Dungeons and Dragons turns you evil? Check (don't try and tell me the Horn of Abraxis and The Dagger of the Pale Knight aren't some nerd D&D poo poo In one of the interviews posted earlier, Cosmatos says he spent time reading D&D manuals while writing the movie. That 80s idea of fantasy is definitely embedded in the movie's DNA.
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Rewatched... The shot of her in the forest walking before it becomes blood moon red feels like a direct homage to antichrist. There's a scene where they track charlotte gainsbourg through the forest in slow motion..also a long tracking shot that's side profile...Antichrist is somehow even moodier in the lighting, but they felt so similar. Also noticed during the 5$ tomato scene the witch lookin' cult member is holding a box of Goblin.
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Saw this at Drafthouse last night, complete sensory overload and I loved it. One of the best pure film experiences in the last few years for me, just a total aesthetic feast. It was definitely one of those things where I felt this could only be told and created in this medium. I'm surprised and pleased this got as many positive reviews as it did though I suspect audience reviews will be more mixed. The scene in the bathroom at first got some small laughs which turned to stunned silence as it dragged on, and then the theater got extremely quiet. After that the only reactions were for the neck snap and the "that was my FAVORITE SHIRT" . This is tied with Hereditary for my favorite movie this year, though I haven't seen Sorry To Bother You/You Were Never Really Here yet. Was it just me or was there some kind of overarching theme of a pornographic view of violence going on? From the start when the radio mentions it briefly to the laughing throatslash of that spiked gang member bleeding all over Red while a porno plays behind him, to the slightly orgasmic release he gets when he squashes Jeremiah's head at the end along with the gushing eyeball death? Even the Cheddar Goblin thing vomiting cheese everywhere kind of gave off the same vibe. Probably just me but it was interesting to think about how that feeling is weaponized against a dude who, for all intents and purposes, is playing a DnD villain with silly names for knives and gods when all he really wants to do is gently caress concubines.
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DLC Inc posted:Was it just me or was there some kind of overarching theme of a pornographic view of violence going on? I mean there's a man with a knife dick, I don't think it's just you
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