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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I'm 15 hours in and haven't gone into the second temple, didn't collect all the treasures or do all the quests. I’m about the same, I did some quests and gathering to get the Giga Spiral Drill weapon and level up before I meet Apollo again so I can beat his rear end this time 
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real bad at video games real frustrated by jumps I can't figure out how to make that are also like a full screen away from where I wanna end up
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ok i take back my question on "does the plot ever happen" because holy poo poo does it ever happen. i gotta say, the reveal that you're actually an AI caught me off guard, i was so certain Lea was just Shizuka with amnesia. i cottoned on to Lukas being an AI pretty quickly though since if you look in the party menu, Schneider will level up in your party but not in your contacts (where he was listed as Offline). still made Lea's reaction when you meet Real Lukas again heartbreaking. is there a way to go back to Vermillion Wasteland? i got all the chests but i wanna go see Evolukas again, i miss him already  DACK FAYDEN posted:real bad at video games hell,  . i gave up on finding most of the jumps in maroon valley because that place fuckin' sucks. all the zones before and after it are way better at telegraphing their jumping puzzles, makes that zone stand out a lot more as a "fuuuck this".
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Something I found helpful with the jumping puzzles was using the aim indicator to check what height everything around me was at. A lot of the time I find something I think I should be able to reach is actually on the Z-level above me. Also, as a general rule: always take the option to gain height, never accept losing height if you can help it. Gaining height is easily reversible, losing it might mean backtracking to an entirely different area. Figuring out where to gain the height you need tends to be about 70% of the puzzle. It took me forever to figure out that Autumn's Fall was expecting me to climb using the ruined walls. Whoever decided to have jumping puzzles in a game with no implicit jumping and a graphical style that indicates height ambiguously needs to be shot imo. e: On top of everything else, Maroon Valley has some of the most frustrating enemies going in terms of limited windows of vulnerability, so wandering around not knowing what you're supposed to do is a lot more exhausting there. gently caress it. e2: Shokats/the samurai bugs/those sloths and pandas have more challenging and interesting combat behaviour but those skeleton fish win the pain in the rear end award hands down. KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Sep 26, 2018 14:42
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Skeleton Fish were annoying until I figured out that hitting them with a charged ball at any point when they're out of the sand breaks them. Then they just became timing minigames.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:22
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I like the jumping because it reminds me of old school k mmos and also golden sun
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Sep 26, 2018 21:25
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EponymousMrYar posted:Skeleton Fish were annoying until I figured out that hitting them with a charged ball at any point when they're out of the sand breaks them. You beautiful bastard, thank you
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I assume they're less lovely with a mouse but this Defend The Crate From 50 Fish quest is straight garbage
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I'm loving the game, the perspective on the jumping puzzles is kind of garbage at times for sure but it's great when you finally figure out a route to that obscure-rear end area and get some goodies out of it. Like someone else said upthread, firing a couple shots usually helps you check the height of various things well enough to get by. I do wish the whole crafting system thing were better implemented - but I'm also finding that you don't really need to engage with it much so long as you're doing all the quests, as you'll get plenty of rare equipment to help fill out your stats. The only downside is that it'll tend to leave you lacking in one stat a lot - for a while I was missing attack, for a while I was missing defence - in a system where you kind of want everything due to the way you have to survive against many enemies until you can break them. As far as chests go I'm finding it useful to stick a bunch of stickers on the map whenever possible, reminding me of where to go / go back to in order to get things done. The path to the third shrine is kind of enormous and I'm slow and thorough enough I'll probably spend a lifetime there.
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This game has some extraordinarily frustrating optional bosses. Edit: Also, is there one of those weird plants in Bergen? Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 00:44
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Weird plants? The spouts, that drop stones? Yes. There's one in every town. Note: the Cave Inn is not a town Has anyone found the bonus boss/old guy in Sapphire Ridge, by the way? I really hope this questline doesn't just fizzle out.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:00
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I’ve come to realize that the bosses are actually not the challenge in this game, it’s the dungeon puzzles. The puzzle *is* the boss I guess.
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Rynn posted:I’ve come to realize that the bosses are actually not the challenge in this game, it’s the dungeon puzzles. agreed, but also, holy gently caress is Son Wukong and his giant pet whale the hardest fight i've had in the game so far. Broken Cog posted:This game has some extraordinarily frustrating optional bosses. yep! gotta hop around on rooftops to get to it, it's probably one of the easier ones since you can randomly run into it. speaking of those, is there one in Rookie Harbor? i've gotten one from bergen and one from the desert town, i'm assuming there's one hidden somewhere in bastion keep too... surfacelevelspeck fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 16:56
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Game is still fun. I still suck at jumping. There aren't chests you can't get later except for keys and element-locked stuff, right? There's no like "secret longer jump" I'm going to get 90% of the way through the game?
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Syndlig posted:
Yep, but you cant get it until you're done with the desert area. It's in the northern part of town.
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Syndlig posted:agreed, but also, holy gently caress is Son Wukong and his giant pet whale the hardest fight i've had in the game so far. loving love that fight  Final puzzle & boss were roughly equal difficulty, though I was probably overlevelled for the boss. Speaking of, I finished the game! 62 hours! Woo! ...I wish it was longer 
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if they don't add a boss rush mode to the game i will be sad.DACK FAYDEN posted:Game is still fun. I still suck at jumping. keys and elements are the only requirements, there's no jump booster. apparently there used to be a bug where you could abuse the tier 2 fire guard laser beam attack to push yourself back onto areas you shouldn't get to but that was patched out.
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Autonomous Monster posted:loving love that fight NG+ will be coming in a future update! I’ll definitely play through a second time after I beat it
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Syndlig posted:keys and elements are the only requirements, there's no jump booster. apparently there used to be a bug where you could abuse the tier 2 fire guard laser beam attack to push yourself back onto areas you shouldn't get to but that was patched out. edit: holy poo poo the second boss is frustrating. Constant elemental overload and I can't figure out how to time the shots in the second phase to jump across to where you have to be to actually deal damage, and it'll regen all the way back up to full if you fail that repeatedly DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Second temple boss? You want to freeze the bubbles when they're about halfway between platforms so you can jump between them easily. As for dealing with elemental overload, get in the habit of switching to neutral when your screen start's glowing brightly to cool down a bit before switching back into your damage dealing element. Also use Ice element's melee art. It does supercalifragalisticexpealidocious amounts of damage to anything you can hit with hit, which is often bosses in their break state. Edit: also what is this game with these references freakin Sephisloth hahahahaha EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Sapphire Ridge is definitely reaching the point where it's getting unpleasantly difficult. Even with a significant amount of defence, the enemies are tearing me up really fast. e: I thought I had a significant amount of defence but looking them up on the forum lists a dude at my level who expects to have 435 defence? Are you just expected to go full def or something? Stelas fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Sep 29, 2018 08:47
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Only if you’re running a DEF build, I think? I went all on ATT and my DEF was like 166 by Sapphire Ridge. I would die very fast if I hosed up but mostly I just dodged and made big numbers fly out of people. Live fast, kill fast, die fast  The samurai bugs can be a pain in the dick and the pandas are lethal but the spiders are pretty easy. Just get up in the middle of them and spam the second level shock melee art where you spin. What’s your level/gear level/stats
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Autonomous Monster posted:What’s your level/gear level/stats 51/51, ATK 250ish DEF 350ish FOC 250ish. Bugs will happily tag me a few times in a row for a quarter of my HP a time. It's getting pretty obnoxious, though at least I've been able to get a couple of updated bits of equip.
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where the gently caress are these last 3 Amperies. this is the worst quest.
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Came to complain about jumping, see that a lot of people have beaten me to it! Really though, the whole mechanic can go gently caress itself. It'd be less infuriating if it wasn't loving everywhere and was never expanded over more then one map screen. It's very much prompting me to take the old school "does this sound like a pain in the rear end? SKIP" approach to avoiding sidequests.
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I think the verticality of the levels is a neat idea but agree that the execution can get annoying sometimes. My primary complaint is more signposting of jumping start areas (infected forest, that One Shroom) and of the jumping shortcuts in the areas. They're nice, but not when you hop down from just out of viewrange from them  Edit: also holy wow Sapphire Ridge is way better about it than Gaia's Garden. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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New update moved the Continue button above the New Game button (where it should have been all along) on the title screen. A Good Update.
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are there any hidden zones in Autumn's Fall? i'm at 26/28 chests but the chest detector isn't beeping in any of the zones any more. i'm also missing the "Portrait of Ruin" for the Fall Booster.
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Syndlig posted:are there any hidden zones in Autumn's Fall? i'm at 26/28 chests but the chest detector isn't beeping in any of the zones any more. i'm also missing the "Portrait of Ruin" for the Fall Booster. There's one west of the 2nd area Syndlig posted:where the gently caress are these last 3 Amperies. this is the worst quest. Use Analysis - a marker will show on up the edge of the screen if there's any left.
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oh poo poo there's a chest detector when do I get that also where's the third quest from the gentleman in funny gear the dude in all-class armor who wants broken gear, I mean cause I found the first two but that was towns ago
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DACK FAYDEN posted:oh poo poo there's a chest detector when do I get that Chest Detector is an endgame item, you get it in the last chapter when you get access to the big central hub that the devs are gonna add the DLC stuff to. kinda hope they let Lea get a house in the player housing area, would be really cute to have a home you could decorate.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:also where's the third quest from the gentleman in funny gear the dude in all-class armor who wants broken gear, I mean cause I found the first two but that was towns ago He's in one of the desert town houses, the door is not incredibly obvious but the map should give you a good idea where
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also don't think you're going crazy when you can't find the 5th quest for it - the devs haven't finished that questline and it'll be added in a later patch, so it just ends after "A Promise is a Promise 4"
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Stelas posted:He's in one of the desert town houses, the door is not incredibly obvious but the map should give you a good idea where  Syndlig posted:also don't think you're going crazy when you can't find the 5th quest for it - the devs haven't finished that questline and it'll be added in a later patch, so it just ends after "A Promise is a Promise 4"
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I just found a goat translator. I love this game.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:oh yeah he must be in one of the two that are... probably south somewhere, I have two un-entered and also can't figure out how to get up there, that'll do it off the top of my head, start from the balcony of the quest hub, jump to the east edge of the map, then follow the edge around to the south
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Syndlig posted:also don't think you're going crazy when you can't find the 5th quest for it - the devs haven't finished that questline and it'll be added in a later patch, so it just ends after "A Promise is a Promise 4" Aw c'mon are you kidding me? I don't mind not having the bonus content like the arena or whatever, but at least finish the most intriguing sidequest plotline before release, guys.
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so i beat the game last night. pretty fun game, sad to see it end! still gotta find all the chests and finish my botanics, also gotta figure out what that last quest for Basin Keep is that's keeping me from 100%ing it... finale spoilers: did the end feel extremely rushed to anyone else? aside from the really cool battle with the Blue Avatar, the game's ending was kind of... eh. no way to save Gautham, seriously? where the hell were Jet & the crew? Lea logs off, roll credits? the after-credits scene was also just a complete tease since all you can do at that point is just rollback time to Chapter 10, there's no post-game content. also i kind of expected a completely different story based on the world setting and the initial interaction with the Blue Avatar. the interaction feels really disconnected with the following plot.
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Stelas posted:off the top of my head, start from the balcony of the quest hub, jump to the east edge of the map, then follow the edge around to the south
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