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They could have killed Kenny. Then had him show up at school again the next day. And get shot again. And no one notices that it's Kenny getting shot again. Except for some sandy hook style truthers. Then have Alex Jones go on a tirade about fake shootings. It pretty much writes itself. Oh yeah, and it's more in line with classic south park than what we've been getting. And they could have brought back "omg, they killed kenny, you bastards!"
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That's... honestly brilliant. They may not have gone the false flag route because their message was about how hosed up it is that school shootings are a normal thing. But more accurately, they didn't do that because they were writing on auto-pilot.
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I would have preferred a subplot about Butters joining the hall monitors. With PC principal taking things so far that Butters has an automatic gun.
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TheFattestPat posted:I would have preferred a subplot about Butters joining the hall monitors. With PC principal taking things so far that Butters has an automatic gun. Yeah, that seemed like a missed opportunity. Armed Butters is a great plot for an episode by itself.
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Oct 1, 2018 02:43
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We already know that an armed Butters only shoots people in the dick.
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I'd be fine if we never saw PC principal ever again. On his face, he's a claim that PC culture just wants to crush puss, and being woke is their way of doing it, which is just a take as old as PCU in my life, and the civil rights marches in my parents, but he's also right a lot of the time and the show treats him like he's not sometimes, but is others, and like all of South Park, it's just not taking a side. Is Garrison a ridiculous fraud of a trans/nonbinary person, a condition akin, according to this show, to wanting to be a dolphin, or the person who explains to the school, accurately, why you should provide a non-gendered bathroom and not police who uses it and shouldn't call cis people "normal" because trans people are normal too. Well, they're both, depending on how we feel this week. Oops. Now the trans character is Trump. Nothing will date this show more than treating human and civil rights as those people whining too loud for we two rich white millionaires. But then they'll do an episode that makes an incredibly progressive point and everybody gets to go, "well, they make fun of everybody" like that makes it okay that they equated being trans with wanting to be a black person. This show confuses the gently caress out of me and I wish they'd just do something vile enough to make me walk away forever and not walk it back later making me think they've grown only to be disappointed again later.
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LividLiquid posted:I'd be fine if we never saw PC principal ever again. On his face, he's a claim that PC culture just wants to crush puss, and being woke is their way of doing it, which is just a take as old as PCU in my life, and the civil rights marches in my parents, but he's also right a lot of the time and the show treats him like he's not sometimes, but is others, and like all of South Park, it's just not taking a side. The show's been on so long that, not only has it changed drastically over the decades (we've gone from random nonsense like "Scuzzlebutt" to "current-events-of-the-past-week") but the older stuff certainly can feel dated. It's best not to get frustrated at the entire history of the show; just enjoy the episodes you like, and don't let the rest bother you.
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Speaking of Butters...South Park Studios posted:SUNDAY MASS BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER
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LividLiquid posted:Is Garrison a ridiculous fraud of a trans/nonbinary person, a condition akin, according to this show, to wanting to be a dolphin, or the person who explains to the school, accurately, why you should provide a non-gendered bathroom and not police who uses it and shouldn't call cis people "normal" because trans people are normal too. Well, they're both, depending on how we feel this week. Garrison is not a trans/nonbinary person. He is just a creep.
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Atomizer posted:The show's been on so long that, not only has it changed drastically over the decades (we've gone from random nonsense like "Scuzzlebutt" to "current-events-of-the-past-week") but the older stuff certainly can feel dated. It's best not to get frustrated at the entire history of the show; just enjoy the episodes you like, and don't let the rest bother you. People have brought up "transracial" poo poo to discredit transgender poo poo, and South Park is why. I hear South Park talking points so loving often when trying to explain marginalized groups positions on poo poo. Even if it isn't converting people, and you will never convince me it isn't, it is absolutely giving bigots ammunition. This poo poo isn't just entertainment. A frighteningly sizable chunk of America takes their political views from South Park, but they're electorally meaningless. But an even bigger chunk uses South Park to validate how they already feel, which from the beginning, has used straw-people like Kyle's mom to say, loudly, "isn't it annoying when people care about poo poo that doesn't affect affluent white people?" And that crowd is how Trump happened. If they were really growing with society, as you're suggesting, Kyle's mom would be freaking out about trans bathrooms, because her character was always "I care deeply about poo poo that doesn't matter like swearing in movies," but that didn't happen. MonsterEnvy posted:Garrison is not a trans/nonbinary person. He is just a creep.
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I agree, it's pretty difficult to decide if the show is taking a position that sides with me or offends with me. But then I realize it's an immature cartoon literally created by two guys that like to offend people and I realize they succeed often.
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I think Sharon's experience of getting exhausted by trying to get people to care to the point where she gives up and tries to ignore it too is something common.
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Oct 1, 2018 13:56
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This reminds me of when my group of friends all saw Team America and we all loved it except one guy who hated it because he felt that the "pussies/dicks/assholes" speech was aimed perfectly at ignorant republican voters that would then use it as a justification for the war in Iraq. I mean, he wasn't wrong, but I don't know that you should really blame South Park for being able to articulate the arguments of ignorant/uneducated people.
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Oct 1, 2018 16:08
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It makes a lot more sense when dicks are actually leftists
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If you have people in your life justifying their worldview based on South Park then you need to find new friends. It's a goddamn cartoon that doesn't particularly take itself seriously.
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Let's be fair though, isn't satire supposed to make a point about society? And if the point it makes is wrong, isn't that a problem? I mean, people are still to blame for not thinking as critically as they should. But for example, if someone believes everything they read on Breitbart and RealPatriotNews.co.ru, that person is definitely to blame, but the websites are to blame too. It's not one or the other. Rather, the truth... is in the middle!!!
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Small White Dragon posted:Speaking of Butters... AWWWWWWWW JEEEEEEEEEEZ LividLiquid posted:This show confuses the gently caress out of me and I wish they'd just do something vile enough to make me walk away forever and not walk it back later making me think they've grown only to be disappointed again later. p much i imagine that if you brought this up to them they’d say “what, you can’t take a joke?” and that tells me this show isn’t really for me but in a broader sense i don’t know who it’s for other than themselves and the truckloads of money they and comedy central makes off of it
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Watched the episode over the weekend and I found myself more annoyed with it than amused by it, but maybe South Park just isn't for me anymore. Maybe I'm misremembering earlier seasons but I remember them making similarly damning statements on society, but remember the main characters trying to make the "good" point in some way? Like they would point out the ridiculousness of society while also trying to have the character fighting it be right. I could be completely misremembering previous seasons, but the general feeling I've had for the last few seasons and was so blatant in this episode was that everything and everyone is dumb as hell for caring about anything or trying. I think I'm just done with the show at this point.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I mean, I liked the episode. It works a lot better when you realize Sharon is the mouthpiece, not the kids; the kids don't care because this is the new normal for them, and the episode shows that as being pretty not-good. Does it though? She's treated as hysterical, PMSing or going through menopause by all of the adults as well, Randy is treated as a victim of abuse and she ultimately gives in. I mean there's certainly a message about how society doesn't care/this is the new normal and that even people who care eventually stop, but the episode doesn't really show much about this being a bad thing. Unless I missed something (I admittedly started only half paying attention towards the end as I wasn't enjoying the episode).
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Ouhei posted:Does it though? She's treated as hysterical, PMSing or going through menopause by all of the adults as well, Randy is treated as a victim of abuse and she ultimately gives in. I mean there's certainly a message about how society doesn't care/this is the new normal and that even people who care eventually stop, but the episode doesn't really show much about this being a bad thing. Unless I missed something (I admittedly started only half paying attention towards the end as I wasn't enjoying the episode). The last scene is her getting the news that Stan was shot and not getting emotional about it, I'm not sure what more of a punchline they should have had.
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Oct 1, 2018 22:02
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Well, her period had finally started.
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Ouhei posted:Does it though? She's treated as hysterical, PMSing or going through menopause by all of the adults as well, Randy is treated as a victim of abuse and she ultimately gives in. I mean there's certainly a message about how society doesn't care/this is the new normal and that even people who care eventually stop, but the episode doesn't really show much about this being a bad thing. Unless I missed something (I admittedly started only half paying attention towards the end as I wasn't enjoying the episode). I mean, I felt like the ridiculousness of everyone else's reactions was, on its face, trying to show that. Sharon is the only person in the episode acting remotely reasonable, and while she does learn a lesson, it's "constantly freaking out and taking it out on those close to you is really unhealthy," not "school shootings are cool and fine."
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:I agree, it's pretty difficult to decide if the show is taking a position that sides with me or offends with me. It's impossible not to get offended by something in any piece of media today. People forgot that getting offended, however, is not a terminal offense on par with murder and that you can get over it.
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I feel it makes a lot more sense that it's not a happy ending, it's Sharon getting browbeaten and pressured into giving up caring.
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No. Because Garrison was never truly a trans person. Just an angry rear end in a top hat (and Bigot) who pretty much did a sex change on impulse. Garrison wanted to revert the change back in the first episode it happened. Honestly Garrison just seemed to be a person flip flopping on what they wanted to be, not understanding that people can be Bisexual. Because Garrison started as a seemingly homophobic closet gay, then decided he was gay, had his sex change and acted homophobic again, until he decided he was a lesbian, before deciding to become a man again and becoming the full on creep that he is.
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drat you nerds are really ripping up south park considering they've been pretty loving consistent about delivering the same poo poo for their entire run. Did the fans boil down into the people who bitch about southpark or did the fans just go quiet and let the people who bitch about it constantly continue at a consistent pitch?
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Motherfucker posted:drat you nerds are really ripping up south park considering they've been pretty loving consistent about delivering the same poo poo for their entire run. There's always a handful of morons hanging out in the South Park thread making GBS threads on the show for 1 reason or another because they got offended South Park went after their particular minority group or for some other random reasons. Pretty sure most of the people that like South Park just stay out of this thread as it becomes a very toxic place.
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SHVPS4DETH posted:did i miss a change in tviv? are show threads supposed to be rah rah hugboxes now? No, it's the exact opposite. The people that dislike a show post far more in TVIV threads than the people that do like the show.
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Sir Lemming posted:Rather, the truth... is in the middle!!! Is it sad that South Park has been on so long that the truth is in the middle stuff that rang hollow before is actually kind of true now? poo poo on all sides of the spectrum is extreme as gently caress lately. Waltzing Along posted:SA is basically a hugbox now. Thanks to some of the GBS mods it's basically Tumblr 2: The Twittering. SLICK GOKU BABY posted:There's always a handful of morons hanging out in the South Park thread making GBS threads on the show for 1 reason or another because they got offended South Park went after their particular minority group or for some other random reasons. A ton of pussies have always been "Oh South Park is great, it makes fun of everyone!" then go "It made fun of me so gently caress this show!!!" No backbone.
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:No, it's the exact opposite. The people that dislike a show post far more in TVIV threads than the people that do like the show. I love South Park which is why I am so critical of it now. It was so good for so long. In my opinion, the best show on TV for like 15 years or more. And now...it's just not good. It's better than a lot of poo poo on TV, but it's in a rut and that is undeniable. When was the last classic episode? I'm going to say it was Cock Magic. Midway through season 18. Has there been a better episode since?
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This thread is harmless, should have looked at the Cyberpunk 2077 thread after CDPR posted that meme tweet.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Is it sad that South Park has been on so long that the truth is in the middle stuff that rang hollow before is actually kind of true now? poo poo on all sides of the spectrum is extreme as gently caress lately. If you think "the true is in the middle" rings true then you're a moron who huffs your own farts.
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Waltzing Along posted:I love South Park which is why I am so critical of it now. It was so good for so long. In my opinion, the best show on TV for like 15 years or more. And now...it's just not good. It's better than a lot of poo poo on TV, but it's in a rut and that is undeniable. When was the last classic episode? Sure you're not just maturing?
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SHVPS4DETH posted:AWWWWWWWW JEEEEEEEEEEZ PC principal exists as a character because they are in fact coming to terms with some of that. They aren't idiots, they know some of the things they say about society can be or are harmful. But the episodes about Stan turning into a drunk miserable cynical rear end in a top hat who thinks everything sucks now are also about them. The misery of SoDoSoPa erasing the past version of the town is also about them. They realize what is happening is often change for the better, but they still wish they could go back to the way things were. They want to just play around and imagine insane gross funny poo poo to laugh together about and not worry about the consequences like when they were kids. Recreating that dynamic on screen is why the show became a hit, people saw themselves in those cartoon kids. South Park will suck rear end if it cares too much about being PC, it just will. It's not that hilarious comedy can't be made without offensiveness, but whatever genius in these particular guys made a show like South Park...that can't work when it's caring too much about consequences and about what other people will do or think. The show is often an expression of unfiltered id and episodes are slapped together in a week. Overthinking it will obviously expose some things. FuriousxGeorge fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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Its kind of why I don't get all the hate and dislike for last weeks episode of South Park, it had a lot of the classic old school South Park in it. You have the kids just being kids with a Cartman / Token race plot (which is just another version of the true classic Cartman / Kyle is a jew plots) You have Randy trying to warn everyone that Sharon is on her period and overreacting. Of course the A plot was slightly toned back with the school shootings in the background of everything and maybe some people get upset that Sharon was the "real life commentary" in the episode. And I could see someone saying that those 2 things may have dragged the episode down a bit. But, if you look at the past many seasons, the season opener is often a weaker episode.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:PC principal exists as a character because they are in fact coming to terms with some of that. They aren't idiots, they know some of the things they say about society can be or are harmful. But the episodes about Stan turning into a drunk miserable cynical rear end in a top hat who thinks everything sucks now are also about them. The misery of SoDoSoPa erasing the past version of the town is also about them. They realize what is happening is often change for the better, but they still wish they could go back to the way things were. They want to just play around and imagine insane gross funny poo poo to laugh together about and not worry about the consequences like when they were kids. Recreating that dynamic on screen is why the show became a hit, people saw themselves in those cartoon kids. South Park will suck rear end if it cares too much about being PC, it just will. It's not that hilarious comedy can't be made without offensiveness, but whatever genius in these particular guys made a show like South Park...that can't work when it's caring too much about consequences and about what other people will do or think. The show is often an expression of unfiltered id and episodes are slapped together in a week. Overthinking it will obviously expose some things. this gave me some things to consider, thanks i also agree with the sentiment that redoing the post-election ep probably broke some things (and the events themselves). also the thinkpieces abt how trump was a direct result of ppl relating to cartman couldn't have helped any.
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