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freckle: Apr 6, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

congrats on joining the police force OP

# ? Sep 20, 2018 19:24

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 10:42

Siljmonster: Dec 16, 2005; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

BULBASAUR posted:

drat I had no idea there was a movement. What are the details? I just joined the IWW and gaymes are my dumb industry

https://www.gameworkersunite.org/

Where you at? I was in mobile/web games for 6 years

# ? Sep 20, 2018 20:12

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

are you loving serious?

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:28

Big Beef City: Aug 15, 2013

The cake under glass there sir that you and others have worked to make, would you mind if instead of just looking I were to take it and eat it as well

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:52

Son of Man: Jan 29, 2003; by Azathoth

Gunshow Poophole posted:

the chop, the bullet, or the garrote

# ? Sep 20, 2018 22:58

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

# ? Sep 20, 2018 23:03

ScrubLeague: Feb 11, 2007; Nap Ghost

game workers absolutely require a union, those are just the worst working conditions even if you're lucky enough to still have a job on launch day

it's the worst part of tech bro mercenary bullshit combined with hit-driven entertainment work

# ? Sep 21, 2018 01:21

reignonyourparade: Nov 15, 2012

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

How much do your tires cost? I want to know how often I need to slash them for paying dues to be more cost effective.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 02:09

BULBASAUR: Apr 6, 2009; Soiled Meat

Video games are a horrible industry

Siljmonster posted:

https://www.gameworkersunite.org/

Where you at? I was in mobile/web games for 6 years

I've worked mostly in production, publishing, and marketing. In Seattle at a pretty good company now, but I've been in the industry for about 7 years and all my other jobs have been horrific. I've always been shocked there was no movement to unionize, because of how hard you can grab people by the balls when you're far along on a project. Man this industry suuuuuuuucks 90% of the time

# ? Sep 21, 2018 02:55

xcheopis: Jul 23, 2003

My position is covered by a union but I can't afford to officially join until 2019, when I hope to be more financially secure. I don't know how involved I want to be, though. I hear different stories regarding the efficacy of our union reps, so maybe the recent court ruling will knock them out of their complacency.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 13:59

Siljmonster: Dec 16, 2005; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

No joke working in video games has ruined my mental and physical health. I'm want to die mentally and my body is following suit.

It's also left me destitute.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 16:07

bring back old gbs: Feb 28, 2007; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Son of Man posted:

and the dues already paid for themselves because the union negotiated a pay raise for us and kept them from jacking up our healthcare insurance costs. there was tasty food and this cool guy gave a speech about how Arnold and the Koch bros. can suck a dead dog's dick in hell. also I got a sweet eye insurance plan and free life insurance for my family. and I got a free shirt. it was the best meeting I've ever been to at work.

are you in a union? why not? start a union! radicalized your coworkers!

UNION - [X] YES

nice i had a similar thing happen to me due to some lucky timing, union negotiation and the annual cost of living increase i got 3 raises in the first year i had my current job

# ? Sep 21, 2018 16:15

Son of Man: Jan 29, 2003; by Azathoth

bring back old gbs posted:

nice i had a similar thing happen to me due to some lucky timing, union negotiation and the annual cost of living increase i got 3 raises in the first year i had my current job

and the real.benefits are yet to come, I'm gonna save 500 dollars on eye care this month

# ? Sep 22, 2018 06:45

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

bring back old gbs posted:

nice i had a similar thing happen to me due to some lucky timing, union negotiation and the annual cost of living increase i got 3 raises in the first year i had my current job

I miss the union I was in as a grad student, it was boss as hell and got us not only as tolerable a stipend as humanities grad students can get, but also good health and dental and a very reasonable max hours a week faculty could require us to perform work.

The adjuncts aren't unionized at the school I'm currently teaching at. :smith:

# ? Sep 22, 2018 16:23

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

them or you

# ? Sep 22, 2018 18:41

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

i pay like, under �10 a month for my dues. when my lovely manager tried to unlawfully fire me because she didn't like how i was raising safety issues my union saved my loving job, so in terms of value that's earned me, what, about 10000% a month? more?

join a loving union kids. it's like brushing your teeth - it's kind of a chore but it beats the everloving poo poo out of the alternative. and when you need it, you'll need it.

# ? Sep 22, 2018 18:49

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

Question Friend posted:

I'm not actually against unions that's just a weird thought that occurred to me, that unions are trusts but for workers instead of owners

this isn't true at all considering employers can and will fire the entire workplace to replace them with scabs, shut it down to send a message to organizers, or move it to a third world dystopia

# ? Sep 23, 2018 01:06

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

you can try worker coops

# ? Sep 23, 2018 01:09

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

ScrubLeague posted:

game workers absolutely require a union, those are just the worst working conditions even if you're lucky enough to still have a job on launch day

it's the worst part of tech bro mercenary bullshit combined with hit-driven entertainment work

The horrors stories are loving terrible

# ? Sep 23, 2018 01:19

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

lol https://anh.com/the-cost-of-unions/

quote:

Research indicates that the cost of running a unionized operation is 25% to 35% greater than for a non-unionized one, and this figure does not reflect any negotiated changes in unionized employee wages or benefits. As an illustration consider what we found at a recent Adams, Nash, Haskell & Sheridan national seminar when we reviewed the administrative budgets of a major manufacturing company. This well-known company operates 30 manufacturing plants; half are union free and half are unionized all or in part. The administrative budgets of the unionized plants were 30% higher due to:

Larger human resources staffs to deal with grievances, job descriptions, rate negotiations, time and motion measurements, and �overcompliance� with government regulations. (�Bird dogs� overseeing workplace statute compliance are less prevalent in union-free facilities.)
Increased involvement with regulatory agencies, especially those associated with hours and wages, OSHA and the EEOC.
Expensive indirect costs in the form of outside services, such as the frequent need for a specialized labor attorney to deal with contract negotiations, handle grievances and arbitrations, and review compliance with a collective bargaining agreement.
Other costs of unions may include:
Added administrative staff for calculating, deducting and documenting employee union dues.
Payment for employees who are called in to cover for other employees in steward or representative positions when they are attending to union business.
Contracting with consultants to develop an action plan for a possible work stoppage or strike.
Wages for short-term replacements if a strike occurs, which can be significantly higher than striking employees wages, especially if replacements are required for highly trained positions.
Employees also incur costs when a union wins a NLRB election.
The average annual cost of union dues is $400, or about two hours of pay per month.
There is a disinclination of unions toward the contingent worker. Unions want full-time dues payers.
The employee puts it all on the line during a labor dispute. It is the union employee who is not receiving a paycheck or benefits during a strike.

Intangible Cost.

In addition to obvious increased costs, there are those that affect morale, creativity and resiliency. Ultimately, an organization�s profit margin can decline. Productivity appears to be lower in unionized environments, possibly due to:

Employee anger or frustration when the collective bargaining process for an initial contract lasts more than a year or does not result in the changes promised by a union during the organizing campaign. (About 75% of initial contracts are still being negotiated a year after the NLRB representation election according to the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service [1996], and 50% of initial contract negotiations never achieve an executed agreement.)
Union strategies and rules that impair the employee-employer relationship by playing on employee emotion and interfering with direct employee-supervisor communication, which cast the employer in the role of �enemy� and result in employee mistrust of all management.
Diminished employee participation in workplace decision making via power sharing programs when such programs had been in place prior to an election.
Employees having to cope with the divisiveness, name-calling and, sometimes, terrorizing behavior of union coworkers when they disagree in word or deed.
Less flexibility-both internally and externally-to move quickly or creatively in response to change due to union rules and related contract language that results in rigid operating guidelines.
Increased difficulty recruiting and retaining the most creative and effective employees. Union-imposed strictures often limit rewarding an employee based on performance or productivity and union grievance procedures tend to protect low-performing and negative employees.
Decreased client or vendor satisfaction may occur if unionization affects service or product cost or quality.

# ? Sep 23, 2018 10:30

Slugnoid: Jun 23, 2006; Nap Ghost

think of all the money we can save if we just ignore our worker's grievances and safety!

:thermidor:

# ? Sep 23, 2018 10:42

jimmyjams: Jan 10, 2001; King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong

its funny how these idiots act like the interests of the capitalist class and the working class are the same. like who loving cares that your stupid company "costs" 30% more to run now that your workers dont have their backs against the wall

# ? Sep 23, 2018 10:43

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

it's almost as if the classes have mutually opposing interests

# ? Sep 23, 2018 11:01

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

it's almost as if the classes have mutually opposing interests

lol

Union strategies and rules that impair the employee-employer relationship by playing on employee emotion and interfering with direct employee-supervisor communication, which cast the employer in the role of �enemy� and result in employee mistrust of all management.

:qq:

# ? Sep 23, 2018 11:04

Suspicious: Apr 30, 2005; You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.

geez if only there weren't centuries of precedents demonstrating this mistrust is completely justified

# ? Sep 23, 2018 11:05

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Suspicious posted:

geez if only there weren't centuries of precedents demonstrating this mistrust is completely justified

Elon Cuck also said that workers should believe that upper management has their best interests at heart.

This is despite facts like having double the workplace injuries benchmark vs other auto companies.

# ? Sep 23, 2018 11:36

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

etalian posted:

Elon Cuck also said that workers should believe that upper management has their best interests at heart.

This is despite facts like having double the workplace injuries benchmark vs other auto companies.

disrupting the auto industry by brining back the pre-ww2 safety standards

# ? Sep 23, 2018 11:39

Son of Man: Jan 29, 2003; by Azathoth

Suspicious posted:

geez if only there weren't centuries of precedents demonstrating this mistrust is completely justified

yeah it's almost like we should teach kids labor history instead of talking about Eli Whitney's cotton gin for 10 years.

I don't think anyone told me that the largest impact of the gin was making slavery more profitable until I was in college :wtf:

# ? Sep 23, 2018 13:43

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

why do you hate our troops op

# ? Sep 23, 2018 14:13

Grevling: Dec 18, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKhwitXvVj8

# ? Sep 23, 2018 14:33

BENGHAZI 2: Oct 13, 2007; by Cyrano4747

Grevling posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKhwitXvVj8

Someone in cspam tried saying this song sucks and the entire thread shouting them down made me proud to be part of this dead gay forum, f to salute

# ? Sep 23, 2018 15:11

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Son of Man posted:

yeah it's almost like we should teach kids labor history instead of talking about Eli Whitney's cotton gin for 10 years.

I don't think anyone told me that the largest impact of the gin was making slavery more profitable until I was in college

Yeah he cotton gin basically lead to a rapid expansion of slavery and plantations by greatly increasing the profit margin for cotton.

# ? Sep 23, 2018 15:14

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Son of Man posted:

yeah it's almost like we should teach kids labor history instead of talking about Eli Whitney's cotton gin for 10 years.

I don't think anyone told me that the largest impact of the gin was making slavery more profitable until I was in college

they mentioned that in school but couched it as 'but well uh it helped jumpstart america's industrial capacity!'

# ? Sep 23, 2018 15:49

SmokaDustbowl: Feb 12, 2001; by vyelkin; Fun Shoe

# ? Sep 23, 2018 15:55

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

full socialism oughtta do it

# ? Sep 23, 2018 20:55

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

super sweet best pal posted:

Let's say I want to get the benefits of a union but want to be exempt from union dues. What are my options?

live somewhere where labour isn't constantly under assault by the rich

# ? Sep 23, 2018 21:16

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

aka nowhere, tough poo poo pay your union

# ? Sep 23, 2018 21:16

BONE DOG: Jun 7, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

If anyone living in the greater vancouver regional district and wants to try their hand at a skilled trade apprenticeship let me know. 14 year union member.

# ? Sep 24, 2018 02:29

Slugnoid: Jun 23, 2006; Nap Ghost

site allowance is the extra $3-4 an hour they pay you for every hour you're on a building site - owing to the wear and tear on your body, OHS risks, etc.

not mentioned here is the tool allowance you can also get to pay for the wear on your power tools and ppe etc

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# ? Sep 29, 2018 13:52

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SeXReX: Jan 9, 2009; I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet

So many people at work bitch about the week our dues get paid but they're loving nothing compared to the premium we'd be paying on comparable health insurance on the open market (part time gig)

Hell my mom has a comfortable middle management job at a major bank hq and my insurance is better than her's before you even factor in it being cheaper lmao.

E. Plus I can tell my bosses "suck a dick dumbshit" and they get all pissy and stomp off cause they know my union rep would laugh in their face and ask to get back to doing something important.

SeXReX has issued a correction as of 18:08 on Sep 29, 2018

# ? Sep 29, 2018 18:05

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