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I'm starting! I (re)-read the first volume.  First chapter The first thing it had to be commented is the drawing style, which if I would follow stereotypes, I could never guess the author was a woman. It isn't what is usually found in shojo or josei magazines. It's dark, detailed, while also having a bit of 'sketchy' style, it has an appropriate dirty flair. Although it isn't perfect, I think Nikaido is drawn a bit derpy in the first chapters, and some perspectives of the characters aren't the best (when she tries to draw someone in a weird angle). It starts jumping right into the core of the story: who is Kaiman, by showing it the current method of gathering info: putting magical users heads inside his mouth, and see what says the guy inside. It's all very weird, but it's the right kind of weird. A lizard head, and inside him there is another head?? the mystery hook is good, in how you don't even know who is the guy inside. Is that his real head, or is the guy who transformed him, or another thing?? It also has a mini intro of the setting, I already had forgotten about one thing: all the weird creatures you see around are like that because they are past victims of the magic users, it isn't like they are a 'natural' part of the setting. This chapter also presents En, already, I also didn't remember it was done so soon, in the first chapter. You can see he will be important, from the first page where he is drawn. Second chapter This one is much more filler-like, with a 'enemy of the week', and an obvious twist of who is the guy who is transforming people into bugs. But they give a hint about something of importance...  Ironically, Fujita is given by En the mission of finding who transformed Kaiman, which was already Kaiman's goal all along. Third chapter A weird dream that Kaiman teases us about a mystery figure. This chapters is short, apart from that, Ebisu appears (<3) but she is rescued from Kaiman's grasp in the last moment. End of story. Fourth chapter Nou and Shin presentation! You know how these ones are much more dangerous than the magic users seen until now. They are given even more importance with the color pages, which serves great, thanks to Shin's mask  He isn't only a fan favorite, I suspect the author loves to drawing him, too. Tie + hammer + heart mask is a killer combo   One thing I thought, it isn't immediately clear that characters like Ebisu or Nou are women, and here it works well (it's like a small twist when you know it) because it's a manga, if one day they make an anime it won't work the same as you will hear their voices. Fifth chapter More magical user's world. En interrogates the guy they captured in the past chapter. Same mark in the eyes as Kaiman...  In general he got to see more of the 'bad guys', and you start to have the feeling they aren't just some enemies for the protagonists, they are the antagonists with their own point of view, or even another set of main characters, but in the other side. I also have the impression En is like an mafia boss, owning a restaurant and everything. We also learn his power. Sixth chapter + bonus chapter Visit to a nearby town. There are some deliciously gore action here. We learn not all magic users are bad, here it's one living in the Hole. Bonus: Also, the magi users are related to devils! Belzebub makes masks. This one rocks:  The bonus chapter is short, but the atmosphere of something weird, twisted and unholy is going on is superb. Volume 1 impressions: because this is really a re-read for me, I didn't commented it as much, but the thing it strikes the most here is the setting, it's so dark, weird, with touches of post-apocalyptic scifi vibe, urban fantasy, weird magick, underworld setting full of violence and psychos, and even an infernal touch. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Oct 1, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 18:04
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What we learned in this volume: 1. Shin is a huge psychopath, but not in an endearing way like everyone else.
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ANIME AKBAR posted:What we learned in this volume: What will we learn next? That is... Still inside the chaos That is... DOROHEDORO!
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Oct 1, 2018 11:41
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Thank you for opening the first week without me guys. Any other thoughts on volume 1?
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Oct 2, 2018 04:36
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There's definitely a lot of setup going on that eventually pays off. I'm not sure how much was intended from the start, or if she's just good at pulling threads together on the fly. I was expecting to get tired of Ebisu doing the lolrandom routine, but it actually plays off pretty well even in hindsight. Weirdly, what I was most struck by is the fact that this early in the series, not everyone is a brick shithouse. Everybody looks so petite compared to their later incarnations, even Fujita.
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Oct 4, 2018 23:30
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You guys are now free to start reading Wolume 2! Volume 3 will commence on Monday. (If I'm doing this wrong shoot me in the foot Wark)
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Grouchio posted:You guys are now free to start reading Wolume 2! Volume 3 will commence on Monday. Wait, you aren't going to participate by writing your own comments? I will read Vol 2 on Saturday.
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Oct 5, 2018 09:23
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A fun thing about Dorohedoro is that every character is the best character, so it's not frustrating at all when the story shifts perspective. I want to know what all of these goobuses and dipshits are up to. It doesn't even have to move the plot forward. I don't think I've experienced this with basically any other manga or long running series.
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Turin Turambar posted:Wait, you aren't going to participate by writing your own comments? 
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Volume 2 It starts with a short color chapter, it's dream-like, slightly surreal, with an interesting collage look.  Then it comes out the main dish: Nou and Shin vs Nikaido and Kaiman fight. It's short but brutal, and the winners are the cleaners.  They are huge. However here the weird poo poo starts happening. Kaiman's head is torn off, and the freaking cross eye face appear on a gushing stream of blood. Oh yeah, and being decapitated doesn't kill him. It's pretty creepy.  This is the point where, you know, maybe the real curse isn't the lizard head, but the immortality aspect. Immortality as a curse is a good theme to explore, too. But that's not enough! Here it's we start the real wild ride of Dorohedoro, and the twists start coming. Nikaido is a magic user! Did she exile herself, or was exiled? Nice setup in the past volume, btw, where they showed there are a few good magic users living in the Hole. The reader can understand how Nikaido is just another one. I think we have a clear meta-declaration here:  This comic is going to be more mystery series than an action series. Kaiman has a creepy dream of a decapitated body and the cross-eyed head, it seems a bit of foreshadowing. Nikaido is worried of how Kaiman will react if he knows she is a magic user, however I would say it won't be a problem, she is misjudging him. In the hospital, they lose Kaiman's old head. I liked this part, it has some a moody, twisted atmosphere  It all seems to indicate a body without head has stolen it. It could be a body generated magically by head itself, part of the curse. Or it could even be the decapitated body Nikaido found time ago, she explained it in the previous chapter. I have the feeling the reader is led to believe that body was Kaiman but there was a time where Nikaido lost it and 'found' it again, this time with a lizard head. That could be another body, and the thief now could be the original body lost. We get some fanservice in this chapter. Nikaido in bra, in a china dress, Noi's clone naked... A new magic user appears. He is Turkey. Words aren't enough, let me put a picture:  Yeah. He has the cool power of making clones by cooking them! The magic variety keeps increasing while still maintaing a wtf vibe. I like it. With it, they get a clone of cross-eyes, but the trail gets cold, once they find what it seems his original head. If he was the creator of Kaiman's curse, well, he is already dead. Although... does curses keep after their created die? It's this like nen after dead?  Misc stuff:   Does Kaiman likes Nikaido, or does he likes her gyozas more??? Finally, the bonus chapter continues with the trend set on volume 1, of being a small scary window in the world of devils. 
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Onto Volume 3 This time with less images.  En looks smart here It starts in the magical world, in a chapter which doesn't advance the plot but we learn a lot of the setting. -There is an entire gang of cross-eye people, they seem to deal with a drug for magic users, black powder, that enhances their power (but only losers do it :P) -Some types of magic, like resurrection magic, life magic or time magic is very rare. En wants a partner with that rare magic. -Magic users are violent (hah, I thought only the Hole was the especially violent place), and they fight each other to get rare magic like that. -Magic users work in pairs, each one has partner. In reality it isn't very clear in what they are partners. Work, life? Love? -Some cross-eyes (or CEG from here onwards) know Ebisu.  The rest of the volume is Kaiman & Nikaido traveling to the magic world! Bringing the battle onto the enemy! They meet a doctor, specialist in magic user research. I suspect he is also one of them, that's how he knows *things*. Thanks to a door he builds, they enter in the magic world. At this point Kaiman is still treating magic users as if all they were disposable meatbags, he even claims what a big bloodbath is going to do. Which in a way, it's the same attitude magic users have when they go into Hole. Nikaido has to say to him 'uhh dude, we have to move with subterfuge, and search for info'. There is a weird moment where a devil goes to the protagonists... and then turn away without saying anything. I think it's clear it recognized Nikaido, or maybe she can talk telepathically with them, and said get lost! Shin & co 'clean' a CEG nest, but they don't get their boss. Noi seems to be inmortal (Wolverine's healing factor thanks to her healing magic?) Meanwhile, En gets to resurrect the decapitated head of the CEG guy found previously thanks to his new partner. He is called Risu and... he is a nobody who knows nothing. Just another gang member from CEG low in the totem pole. He doesn't know the boss, he doesn't have magic, he doesn't know who killed him. And you know... here it's a flaw of the story. Why is En putting so much effort in all this? Mobilizing his enforcers, searching info, resurrecting heads, dealing with stuff personally? The author forgot to give him a proper motivation, imo. It all started with him helping a bit one of his low ranking underlings, Fujita, who had lost his partner and wanted vengeance. It was realistic at that point, because he just gave him some info on how to act (search Ebisu). But from there they are implicating themselves much more as if they were their nemesis, and it isn't the case, really. Fujita isn't as important as to invest all this effort. Nikaido summons the demon Asu (her personal devil?), and gets a bit tsundere (I don't love him! you baka) It all ends with Nikaido doing a one-man raid into En's residence to get Risu. She punches En, who lost control and turns almost everyone into mushrooms. Risu escapes in the middle of the mess, he knows he was killed by another CEG. Oh yeah, I guess this is important for shipping purposes... 
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Volume 2: I'd very much like to know what Hayashida patterned the monks' headgear on, because they look like upside-down Kitchenaid mixers to me. I'm not sure that's a cross-cultural referent, though. I think maybe they're roach bodies?  You're already undead.  This has to be a reference to something specific, right? I'm coming up blank on what it could be.  Oh, mistakes were made. Obligatory  Chapter 11's kinda gross! I would have rather gotten a version where Nikado's not doing a sexy pinup pose while hogtied and bleeding from some light head trauma. She did cut that guy's head off with her bare hand, though, and that was pretty neat. There's a couple abrupt art changes, like when Risu does the thing, or during the devil's song in the bonus chapter, that I really like. It's a great way to heighten the surrealism of an already wild comic, plus it's great when Hayashida drops into gently caress-it-we'll-do-it-live mode with the pen.
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Volume 4 I feel this is maybe the weakest volume for now. The volume starts with our protagonists in the Hole again as they retreated from the Magical World to heal Nikaido, and it ends with Kaiman coming back to the Magic World to continue again his search, this time alone; so it's a bit as if there wasn't a lot of progress. -We have Shin's origins in a flashback, but it's a bog-standard vengeance story. He turned into a psycho well before his quest for revenge was over. -We have a pair of episodic stories, nothing particularly good, except one of them serve to present Jonson. Say hi to him!  -We have a wacky~ baseball match, but it doesn't even end properly. It also featured a dude interested in Nikaido but he doesn't appear again. At least it gave us Ebisu disguised as a shark.  -Ebisu an turn herself in ~awesome~ raptor with her own smoke. It's kind of funny how the author drops the possibility of resurrecting Fujita's old partner:  It's implied Ebisu has consumed back powder since her childhood, affecting her magic. -Another parner from En, Chota. Well, it seems he believes he is his partner. He can revert curses.  -Finally Risu reveals he had a partner he trusted, Aikawa. He was killed by another CEG. 
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Oct 14, 2018 12:40
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Just wanted to chime in and say that I'm enjoying your recaps Turin Turambar.
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I like this manga
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Julias posted:Just wanted to chime in and say that I'm enjoying your recaps Turin Turambar. Ohh so my words aren't being wasted fruitlessly on the wind! :P Good to know, thanks. Volume 5 Or, return to the Magic World -Kaiman is struggling a bit in the MW, until he gets a work and a friend in a restaurant, his new boss, Tanba. He is pretty impressive  And a cute waiter too, Fukuyama. She can turn people into literal, culinary meatbags.  -So the main drive of this volume is the Blue Night event. It's done every four years, and it's a series of festivities/competition where people decide who is going to be their partner. There is a little backstory implying they do it for historical reasons, because the founders of the magic users? were also two devils who were partners. The interesting bit is that all current partnership expire and has to be renewed, if they want to stay the same, and also you can coerce/kidnap your future partner. Everything goes! -There is a side plot with everybody's favorite couple (I would say over Nikaido/Kaiman, lol) Shin and Noi, with a persistent and dangerous couple want to force them to be their partner. Combat ensues. They also show in a flashback how they partnered up four years ago, with Noi sacrificing her incoming devilship to save his friend. That's another interesting data point, how magic users can turn (and aspire to) into devils. Why? It isn't very clear. Devils seem powerful, but distant, they don't mix with the rest of society. Is it a pure quest for power, or is it a cultural thing to wanting to be a devil? their religion maybe, is it like aspiring to buddha level ?  Noi was a cute teenager! god she grew up a lot in the last four years. Also, great sketchy art. Love it. -Risu still searches for Aikawa, his old partner. Him and Kaiman plot lines crosses with Shin/Noi's by accident, and ingeniously Noi's smoke makes him recover his meat body. Well, it isn't very clear, the panels are a bit confusing and they don't seem to totally matchup with the sequence of events show a few pages before from Noi's perspective.  I wonder if that person with also spiked head is the same Risu. -En discover that his coveted 'fabled time magic user' exists, and it's Nikaido! This fits so nicely, because maybe she was in the Hole to just be apart, outside all this game of being hunted, desired by other magic users. Also, it opens so much the door to time-travel shenanigans, which personally I never tire of. Now I'm thinking if any shady character half-seen before was Nikaido doing a time loop. -Finally, En captures Nikaido (& friends) with a ritual where he could remote control a giant mushroom-man. I like how magic rituals are kind of unique and mysterious, it gives the feeling it isn't a 'hard rule' magical system. I love the casually unsettling is this manga. It is never explained, but there are black houses where devils reside, with an inverted christian crosses. The ridiculous mask of the devil, more laughable than scary, actually accentuates his otherness.  I like the humor touches, they contrast nicely with the otherwise gritty and violent setting. check En's sculpture in sugar  or how he has a mushroom-themed bed and a plushy mushroom. Of course.  or Ebisu boob fixation  The art has improved a bit at this point. It's mostly the same, but I would say it's more consistent, in the early volumes Hayashida would still screw up some proportions or perspectives, but now you can see an artist with more experience and polish. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Oct 16, 2018 |
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Oct 16, 2018 21:08
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Blue Night is the one fixed point in the series I can always remember. It feels like it’s around this time that the plot kicks into overdrive.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:55
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Just when I think I can give my volume-by-volume thoughts my power goes out in a windstorm and I've got mucus in my chest. 
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Oct 16, 2018 22:09
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fukuyama is actually a boy viz's translation messed that up but there is another worker at tanba's returaunt who is a cute girl
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I pretty much binged through the entire thing without a break including the last chapter and I have to say. It was a wild ride that I enjoy immensely. I never even heard of Dorohedoro until I looked at this thread by chance and I'm glad I did. The art really is amazing and the setting fits really well along with it.
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https://twitter.com/sattou0/status/664099759095844865
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Extreme0 posted:I never even heard of Dorohedoro until I looked at this thread by chance and I'm glad I did. The art really is amazing and the setting fits really well along with it. I was going to comment about that with Volume 6. Not only the art is good, it's really appropriate for this type of setting and story. Imagine for a moment Dorohedoro being drawn by Naoki Urasawa or Hiromu Arakawa, it wouldn't be the same, not even close. In fact I suspect the setting was designed around the art style, and not the other war around. The mangaka, Q Hayashida, had this art style already, so she or her editor thought the best thing would be to choose a type of story which would go well with it. It just fits too perfectly. Volume 6 Here  we see a sick cover, Hayashida art is improving more and more. I love this page, the first panel with the flying black house and the devils is scary af, but then you have the goofy waving of hands to the devils.  So, summary. Just at the end of the Blue Night, Noi and Shin renew their vot... err contract, and En gets to force Nikaido in doing the same. Meanwhile, there is a tender/sad/funny moment with Fujita and Ebisu. He gets a letter to be his partner by some mysterious person, but no one appear in the cited place. He is alone with Ebisu. ...with Ebisu, she was the one who wrote the letter, she wanted to be his partner, but he didn't notice. In any case just before the signing she gets sick and can't finalize the deal, lol. A tidbit of info is learned from Chota: when someone has applied several layers of magic, sometimes he can get magic proof. As Kaiman. Speaking of Kaiman, he gets a strange dream, remembering some details from his forgotten self. The dream sequence is really good, it could be taken from Twin Peaks. The impression of him wishing to not know who he was, as it contains a terrible secret, starts to form. The action jumps then to old Risu's partner, Aikawa. He is a good fighter, and intends to protect Risu, advising him not to deal with the CEG, but that's easy to say, when Aikawa has magic and Risu don't. It seems CEG boss have his followers fooled into thinking they are researching something to fix their general lack of magic, that makes them be in the lowest part of their social totem pole. Kaiman gets a clue from a CEG member in prison (saved at the brink of time by the devil friend with Nikaido, Asu), she is in En's house. A legend is mentioned, En's destroyed a whole city with his smog six years ago. I wonder it was only said to highlight how dangerous he is, or actually they will elaborate on what happened. Finally Nikaido is made to obey thanks to the contract, and gets a new (stupid looking) costume.  But at this point we have a flashback, of how En's was tortured and exploited as a child, and survived hell, until he finally got a powerful family. However, a killer who cuts heads (was Risu a victim?) is wreaking havoc in the magic world, and it's starting to target his family members, too. They only know he is from CEG, so they had a history already. And he is something else:  Like, wtf. He is capable of owning alone Shin and Noi, too. En 'seems' to defeat him, in that moment was when he destroyed the city six years ago. Even then, he saw a beheaded body moving... surely that killer and Kaiman and one and the same. The curse of immortality. And that was it! Oh, I thought Kaiman was going to rescue Nikaido in the last chapters, I guess that will be volume 7. Extra:  The information I wanted to know always: they have tv channels in the magic world and En is famous.  En's own movie! Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Oct 21, 2018 |
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All the little weird details about the characters lives make them so much richer, especially important when half the time their faces are covered in grisly masks. What an absolutely genius series.
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Shame there isn't really any official merch that isn't sold out I've noticed.Ccs posted:All the little weird details about the characters lives make them so much richer, especially important when half the time their faces are covered in grisly masks. What an absolutely genius series. Yep. I don't think I really hate/dislike any char in this series as they have their own charm, detail and fitting placement to this.
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Volume 7, the rescue! Highlights:  Kaiman disguise. Attention to his fake name: Pieman. Not even Piewoman, lol.  #Transphobia_in_Magic_world of course, this is part of the infiltration plant to rescue Nikaido form En's grasp. However, not before we have two wacky chapters of a magical cooking fight duel thing. Meet Asuka  I dig the ZR, I dig the dead rats? much less so. Meanwhile the professor and the other Hole guys are secretly helped by Shin, who owned him a debt as his life was saved by him many years ago. In fact the 'rescue' is pretty simple, as En and others were distracted by Asuka's magic love charms. But Nikaido is still controlled by the contract, so a fight ensues...  Sick satanic church. Kaiman trips out in the middle of the fight, his reflection (Risu) ask if he is going to kill a friend again. I wonder if Aikawa is still alive... Then someone stabs Nikaido from behind. Maybe Kaiman's other personality took control and did it.  Asu rescues her again just before she dies, En's contract seems to have been removed from the chest after the attack. this gives her a time with free will, but the contract will re-assert itself again in proximity of En. Thanks to Asu, Nikaido and Kaiman escape through a magic door, and Chota plays the role of fakeNikaido so En won't notice it. Nikaido tells to Kaiman how she lost a dear friend with her magic, so she vowed to never use it again. Somehow it will be connected to Asu, I can imagine. In general, the author is still playing the central mystery (Kaiman's past) with the cards closed to her chest. We have a new dream/flashback sequence, which is vague and ominous as hell. Example:  Is there any meaning to this panel of someone with only one eye with the cross?  Risu is in Berth, searching the headquarters of CEG. He finds a CEG house, full of shady characters. Like, literally in shadows because they don't turn on the light. The family photo:  Shin and Noi are going to a cabin in the forest, where supposedly the black smoke is manufactured. At the same time, the professor and co. went away, they have a plan to left a message for Kaiman, for that they are going to search the professor's wife, who is a magic user. I guess that's how he know so much about them. Of course the laws of drama and convenience dictate both destinations are one and the same. The house is being occupied by a group of CEG who seems to be good fighting magic users. Noi is captured (the author cheated here, we didn't see how the shell she was defeated) and Shin seems almost immortal too! He stood up after being stab in the heart.
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I'm coming late because I was busy playing VIDEOGAMES Volume 8, where many threads are spun The CEG guys from the forest are real freaks, it seems someone have messed with them in some way. They also have been trained to fight magic users, countering their magic. Shin has a hard time fighting, but in the end he beat them. The CEG guys seem to worship a boss, which with the face veiled makes me suspect it's a corpse. The black powder origin came from the surgery he devised to be able to use magic by the CEG, however since the boss disappeared, the supply of black powder dried up. Have here some ridiculous hyper violence. A headbutt strong enough to splatter his brains.  So in this volume the complexity is creeping up, and there are many threads opened. I will try to organize by each one, instead of telling what happened in a chronological order: -The professor Kusukabe has a secret, that isn't his real name. 'Haru Kusukabe' was her wife, now turned devil. He seems cool with that development, they were separated many years ago. He recognized the face of the CEG's boss, and proposes to return to the Hole. -Dokuga, the youngest looking member of the CEG cell found by Risu, knows who killed Risu. He receives a letter from Kento, one of the CEG guys from the forest, before he dies (in the fight with Shin). I suppose the letter is why Dokuga and others goes to check the cabin in the forest, where they find the other CEG cell destroyed. Risu and Dokuga fight, as Risu believes they are hiding info from him. Dokuga wins, but there is a good clue in something he says 'I won't kill you, it would be too dangerous'. He knows something about Risu: he can't/shouldn't be killed Risu thinks he has discovered the truth, but he isn't generous enough to share with the reader, lol  He reminisces about his past, how he joined CEG as they were a group of losers living a tough life, desperate people without magic in a magical world, all with the blind hope on their boss, who was trying to 'become the ultimate magic user'. I think this in an important point because if any, maybe Risu's secret and Kaiman's curse and immortality are byproducts of the boss work. We learn there is magic even more rare than time magic, it's 'curse magic', and only their users know how it works. Ok: new theory: Risu's magic is curse magic, but it doesn't work with smoke. It only triggers with his death, and that's why he believes he doesn't have any magic at all. -Asu is compromised, the big devil, Chidaruma (a natural born devil!), knows he was hidden info about her. -Kaiman and Nikaido are in Mastema, the city supposedly destroyed by En six years ago. They find a new member of CEG, a young girl called Natsuki. She accompanies them, in their quest to Berth, where they believe the Boss is, although they will have to cross Zagan city first. Natsuki gives Kaiman the last bag of black powder. -En & co share a dream (like, literally speaking, it was a magic ritual), where silly stuff happens with the comic duo (Fujita & Ebisu). However, something more serious lurk in Ebisu's past, or at least the author teases about it. Something about her family?  Ok, the author is starting to piss me off a bit, she is clearly stalling the central mystery in the last two volumes, while at the same time try to drum up excitement for it with silly teases. Like Kusukabe seeing the face of the wax statue just before it's melted (but we don't see it), or Dokuga was going to mention who killed Risu, just before he stops when he received the letter. It's always the same: the author teases you with a revelation, and then the scene changes or there are shadows and you can't see the face of someone, or someone wakes up from a dream/flashback just before reaching the important part, etc etc. Bonus chapter: The truth, revealed. Kaiman cares slightly more for gyozas than recovering his memories and face. 
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since cipherscans ghosted this i found a translation for the final chapter on reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Dorohedoro/comments/9jv9ek/chapter_167_english_translation_by_blakasmoko/
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I read already Volume 9, which a pretty important book in Dorohedoro, but I think I will wait until I read Volume 10 to write my post about them.
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Volume 9-10, where poo poo goes truly apeshit In my previous post I complained how the author was starting to draw out too much the central mystery, here it seems she rectified course with real advances of what the hell is happening. Buckle up.  Allow me to put in full size one of the best double spread of the series, and from one of the most important moments. -Kaiman POV He visits the magical school in Zagan which in a previous chapter we saw it was where Risu and Aikawa met up. He has a series of strong, traumatic flashbacks. The author has played with the concept of Kaiman being somehow Risu, as he had the cross eyes and inside his mouth there was a mini-Risu, but here she makes a swerve and all seems to indicate he is really Aikawa, his friend! It's an interesting concept because we could suspect Aikawa was somehow important in the story, but he was still suspiciously missing, and he is still related to Risu. Or as a minimum, he has his memories. When the flashback happens the cross of his eyes disappear, I wonder what explanation that will have. Hi and Nikaido had a close moment, where they promise to open a restaurant together when this is all over, but then...  Later, he meets up with En... (see bellow) -Kasukabe POV Again in the Hole, they investigate and tell the story of, thanks to a flashback, if the CEG boss could be Ai, a past friend of Kasukabe. He was a guy from Hole, obsessed with turn himself into a magic user somehow, and for that he started helping the magic research from Kasukabe. In theory he died, Kasukabe saw the corpse, but given that he died just after the professor did a dangerous operation with the fresh corpse of a magical user to turn him into one, mayyybe he somehow survived and went to the magic world. I have a convoluted theory here: Four different characters are one and the same, or at least there is something in between them. Ai <=> Aikawa, Ai was his past self in the Hole. And we just said Ai is the missing CEG boss and that Aikawa is Kaiman, so there it is, all four are one and the same. Of course it's a crazy theory because Aikawa didn't like the CEG and advised Risu to stay far away from them, but maybe it's precisely because he was the creator of the gang and he was just using them as disposable peons. Even more, in volume 10, the doctor from the Hospital comments how he examined Kaiman countless times so he is sure he is human, not a magic user. Kaiman being Aikawa holds up with this fact as we never saw Aikawa really using magic, and Ai was a human from the Hole. Finally, Kasukabe comes back to the MW with Shin & Noi, to search for Ai with her wife's help. note: not really part of Kasukabe's POV, but from CEG's POV: we learn the boss appeared from the first time in the Hole, rescuing them, and they used an already opened magic door, that would explain how he went to MW without powers! -Azu POV  We have one of the most gruesome scenes of the series, of the devils denigrating Azu from devil to human again, by mutilating his devil body with a super scary butcher-devil. As he loses the devil powers, the 'charm' on Chota's aspect disappears and En will discover Nikaido ran away. And of course, we use the occasion to have a flashback: he was a 'big brother-type of figure' to Nikaido, who at some point turned himself into a devil (like Noi almost did). Something happened with Yakumo, her best friend...  -En POV Chota's breaks by accident Nikaido's contract, taking down En for a while. When he wakes up and recovered, he goes alone for Nikaido once and for all, owning Kaiman in a fight. In the fight, Kaiman recovers his human head, and the spirit/curse/thingie inside appears an says  uhh? -Ebisu / Fujita POV Ebisu has recovered some memories of her true self after the mushroom-fueled dream (it happens more than you may think! ), and remember where she lived, she was a good girl living with her rich parents. Although that said, I think Ebisu's character still holds up some secrets, as she also knew some local gansters in a pub and had hidden black smoke. In any case the parents are gone an an evil Ebisu-clone is in her place, fabricated to replace her in her absence (I guess only in Dorohedoro this sentence has any sense lol). She turns into Raptor to defeat the clone, but just at the end she is lethally hurt, Fujita comes too late to save her. RIP Ebisu. Well, RIP here means more 'I guess you will be resurrected later'. This page opening for the chapters is amazing  At this point I'm not commenting most funny scenes, but that doesn't mean I don't find them funny. Look at his plant-doll thing! Cute! 
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I see I'm about as good at looking after my threads as a deadbeat dad.  I'm going to read up to Volume 8 and give my thoughts.
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Nov 7, 2018 15:00
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Wow, I read through this manga a year or so ago, right as it was wrapping it. The whole thing is a trip, and while the sketchy art style and questionable scanlations could make it a bit hard to follow, I adored the characters and the setting. Turin's doing an excellent job with the writeups, and really showcasing some of the high points. You're definitely right that the volumes drag on a bit, but the next couple volumes are the meat of the main plot, and drat did I enjoy it. I hope other people give this weird rear end manga a shot, it's a gem
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URGENT NEWS~~ Turin Turambar's Dorohedoro read-along proves to be so popular it makes the manga series gain an anime adaption http://moetron.net/post/179922064995/q-hayashidas-manga-series-dorohedoro-manga Interesting, so this is how being an influencer feels...
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Nov 9, 2018 09:45
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How the heck can you a) animate dorohedoro, and b) have it still look like dorohedoro I mean you probably could in theory, but it would take 400 years and kill all of your animators
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Nov 9, 2018 10:16
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Well, yeah, surely it's going to be disappointing in that regard. Like Blade of the Immortal anime was (most fans have erased it from their memories with good reason).
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Nov 9, 2018 10:37
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*breathes in* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *breathes in* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Nov 9, 2018 11:00
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Let igorrr do the whole soundtrack
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Nov 9, 2018 11:51
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The fact that Dorohedoro is getting an anime adaption to begin with is quite Shocking.
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Nov 9, 2018 14:17
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Extreme0 posted:The fact that Dorohedoro is getting an anime adaption to begin with is quite Shocking.  (now imagine it's a cockroach and not a bird)
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Holy poo poo I'm so happy. This was one of my "the anime I wish got made but will never happen" choices
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