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AA then imgay seems pretty good right now.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2018 14:40 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 19:58 |
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If you lurkershoot Rex and Rex flips scum, then that clears Hal and makes Rex's options say, 3 and 4 more suspicious. Rex flipping town doesn't help much though. If you lurkershoot Kit and Kit flips scum, then that's good but I don't think we get much new info. If you lurkershoot Kit and Kit flips town, well, should've posted more.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2018 22:25 |
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IllegallySober posted:I also don’t have a problem with this, if we decide to go that route. Given the T2->T3 evolution tonight, does a mass claim make more sense today or tomorrow?
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2018 00:40 |
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I've used both my night actions so I might be a bad target for a protect tonight.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2018 16:02 |
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So...who are we voting for this time? AA was on my list for the past 3 days, need someone new to spar against.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2018 20:07 |
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CCKeane posted:YPM was also going after CL yesterday. He might be a worthwhile person to look at. Seems reasonable. I'll also pitch the idea that KB and Keane and scumbros and KB faked his cop claim.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2018 23:55 |
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Asiina posted:Do you actually believe that or are you just throwing out things? Just throwing out things right now. Currently thinking we lynch imgay but will think more about it.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 01:01 |
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Of the folks still alive (Solus vote detail not 100%, used latest Votefinder post): Asiina (shot at Gaspy, dead town, voted for: Solus, dead town, Gaspy, dead town, merk, dead town, AA, dead sk ) CCKeane (KB claimed to cop him as town, voted for: no vote D1, Gaspy, dead town, merk, dead town, AA, dead sk) clord (voted for: Hal, alive, gaspy, dead town, AA, dead sk, AA, dead sk) CubicalSucrose (voted for Solus D1 Town, no vote D2 but was pushing AA, AA D3 SK, AA D4 SK, gave gun to imgay, copped YPM as town and flip confirmed) flerp (voted for: no vote D1, no vote D2, AA SK, no vote D4) Hal (voted for: AA SK, Gaspy dead town, merk dead town, AA dead SK) IS (shot at merk, dead town, voted for: Solus dead town, Cubical alive, AA dead SK, no vote D4) imgay (lurkerkilled Slam, dead town...shot at YPM, dead town...shot AGAIN at YPM, dead town, voted for: Solus dead town, merk dead town, merk dead town, Asiina alive) KRex (Hal can kill with a lurkergun but hasn't yet, voted for: no vote D1, no vote D2, merk dead town, no vote D4) KB (copped CCKeane as town, voted for: Solus dead town, gaspy dead town, merk dead town, AA dead SK) Kit (Hal can kill with a lurkergun but hasn't yet, voted for: no vote D1, gaspy dead town, AA dead SK, AA dead SK) Toalpaz (shot at YPM, dead town, voted for: Solus dead town, gaspy dead town, AA dead SK, no vote D4) We've got one mystery job left at the bottom so I assume someone else is a 3P. Only one scum flip, so who knows on that. Somewhat arbitrarily counting final votes for town as -1 (except counting Solus as -0.2 since D1), shots at town as -0.5, counting AA as 0, counting lurkerguns as -0.3, counting a no vote as -0.1. Asiina gets: -0.5, -0.7, -1.7, -2.7 CCKeane gets: -0.1, -1.1, -2.1 clord gets: 0, -1 Cubical gets: -0.2, -0.3 flerp gets: -0.1, -0.2, -0.3 Hal gets: -1, -2 IS gets: -0.5, -0.7, -0.8 imgay gets: -0.3, -0.8, -0.8, -1, -2, -3 KRex gets: -0.1, -0.2, -1.2, -1.3 KB gets: -0.2, -1.2, -2.2 Kit gets: -0.1, -1.1 Toal gets: -0.5, -0.7, -1.7, -1.8 Sorting those gets us: [Claimed Squire?] flerp = -0.3 (with a single night vote) [Claimed Knight, claimed used gunsmith/cop] Cubical = -0.3 (with by far the scummiest post quality) [Claimed Chemist] IS = -0.8 (with focus on a different game) [Claimed Chemist, Suspected Black Mage used Toad on Asiina] clord = -1 (with a single night vote) [Claimed Archer, claimed used watch on Asiina] Kit = -1.1 (with a lot of confusion around the game) [Claimed Chemist, claimed used doc] KRex = -1.3 (with seemingly little effort) [Claimed Squire, claimed used gunsmith] Toal = -1.8 (with a bunch of folks having wanted him dead at some point) [Claimed Archer. claimed used watch] Hal = -2.0 (with a KRex's-Most-Wanted sign on his back) [Claimed Chemist] CCKeane = -2.1 (with a mid-game blowup with KB) [Claimed Knight, claimed used cop] KB = -2.2 (with a fun power now assuming his knight claim was accurate) [Claimed Black Mage, claimed is Toaded] Asiina = -2.7 (with some fun interactions with now-dead serial killer AA) [Claimed Squire?] imgay = -3.0 (with a strange fascination for killing YPM) ##vote imgay Read through a bunch when trying to dig up claim info. Would vote against Toal. Would need some convincing against Hal and Asiina. KB looks bad vote-wise but feels better after reading. Gunmath? 28 players 3 were non-Squire 3P's 25 left 5 are claimed Chemists who are alive 20 left 8 are dead chemists 12 left 9 unreliable gun "clicks" 3 left 2 unreliable gun "suicides" 1 left 1 unreliable gun "actually shot the person aimed at" 0 guns left? (Aside from Hal's lurkergun)
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 03:32 |
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Asiina posted:I agree. It's a lot of words with almost no content. He's just listing things that have happened and assigning arbitrary point values that oh look totally coincidentally make him townie. It takes into account absolutely none of the context of the game. The one sentence summaries in brackets are the closest things to actual reads and most of them aren't anything. Yep! Context matters, but maybe it's useful to see some things like claims and votes and kill attempts. Let's not throw the baby put with the bathwater. Yesing I've said has looked suspicious, but what have I done that has been anti-town? KB pulled up the soft defense of GX. Contrast with the things I've done that have been pro-town - instaclaiming Knight, getting a solid cop read, pushing three days in a row to lynch a non-town player, and trying to sort out all the gun nonsense upfront so everyone (not just the scum team) would know exactly how guns worked (aside from the roll probabilities). Potential factions: CCKeane and KB faking an argument then making up. Asiina and clord faking a Toad (Kit could have watched a doc) Toal and a bunch of other folks ##unvote ##vote Asiina
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:27 |
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imgay posted:how do i earn more points? Get Hal to use his Lurkergun on a townie and you can have as many as you want.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:28 |
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Kitiara posted:I screwed up and posted by mistake, here's the rest of what I was going to say: KB did choose Squire though, from this post early - "Yeah, we may as well out it at this point. We just got a gun to give out tonight (and we can't give it to ourselves). So any mass vigpocalypse won't happen until D2."
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:42 |
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King Burgundy posted:I'm sure we have plenty. There were like 28 players, so probably at least like 10+ guns out there and I don't think many have claimed who they gave them to. This also...
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:44 |
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King Burgundy posted:Yeah. There was no reason to counter claim, I got the same role description. And here where he says he was also a Knight.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:47 |
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Kitiara posted:Sorry, my bad. I misread that post as in "he was agreeing with what someone else had said" and apparently completely missed the "I haven't told who I gave my gun to" post. I got distracted by his complaining that he hadn't been given a gun. No worries friend! Just trying to drop down on the scummometer.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:47 |
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Ugh, just reread Asiina and even though you've repeatedly been against me you feel townie. ##unvote ##vote imgay After I cop YPM and say town, why do you try and shoot YPM, again?
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 04:58 |
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King Burgundy posted:So I thought KR's approach was pretty novel at first, but having thought about it more, and watching other people basically use the same system, it is really bad. This is a pretty fair point. I guess I'm not far enough along to know what the vote or not meta really looks like. If you all do want to kill me, it should definitely be lynching. I'd personally rather go out in a blaze of glory, but I imagine town does better lynching me than trying to kill me later. Anywho, I'm town, so don't lynch me. I still want to kill imgay because he shot at YPM (I guess not unreasonable to do it the first time), but then after I said YPM was town he shot again, hasn't given an explanation, and has made few reads.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 12:14 |
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King Burgundy posted:So one other thought: I'm worried you're jumping to the wrong conclusion here KB. Maybe you're just being a bit paranoid (makes sense, I definitely am), but I think you're a bit concerned about nothing.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 12:19 |
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imgay posted:Cpig can you tell me who turned me into a toad? Ugh, rereading imgay and the only thing I saw was the push for YPM which started really early after YPM was doing things that looked reasonably suspicious. Sorry imgay. ##unvote Mafia is hard.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 12:58 |
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Let's look at Hal. If Hal is scum and knows either of the lurkers are town, can he basically force a scum win by shooting today?
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 13:01 |
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flerp posted:my other thoughts are: This is really the only effort from flerp this game, aside from questioning known 3p AA and some interactions with KheRex. Only voted AA which was a gimme. KB is making a good point about effort in-thread vs out of thread, and only one interesting item in just two pages of posts seems a little low? Is flerp lurkergunnable right now?
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 00:44 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:WELL????? Did you look? Someone else did the math and it was like "If there are a ton of scum which is unlikely then it's possible and he probably would've done it already." Which, unfortunately, doesn't seem to help much. I figured if it was a clearish win and you hadn't shot, then either all three of you are scum or you're town and aren't sure about the others. But given current numbers who knows.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 02:18 |
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flerp posted:hmmm yeah i guess, altho i really dont like the whole "this is my only effort, apart from these other moments where i put in effort." also, idk if youd say the AA vote was a gimme, since i voted for him on d3 where it was a toss up between merk and AA. it was only on d4 where AA claimed sk and got lunched, and i didnt even vote for him that day (because i wanted to hammer him but then i went to bed and he got hammered while i was asleep ) but yes i was v focused on AA because i felt confident that he was a baddie. prob a bit too focused in retrospect. I guess that's fair, and most of my focus was on AA as well so can't really fault you for that.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 02:19 |
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Other people have talked about mass claiming in previous days. The main person against had been YPM (RIP). Do we think mass claiming would be good for town? There are a whole bunch of new powers that I'm itching to learn about.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 02:21 |
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I'm under the gun today it seems, time to half claim. Monks (me and theoretically KB) are either PGOs or Bombs. Both are reasonable from a flavor perspective, non-violent until provoked. KB or another monk can out us if they want, but be careful with your votes today and night actions tonight. ##Fight for Blue ##vote flerp
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 12:54 |
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Flerp might be a monk I guess. ##unvote ##vote KhediveRex
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 13:26 |
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I think I'll vote for anyone but Keane, also will not hammer a knight or potential Knight.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 19:56 |
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Kitiara posted:I guess it’s not impossible for me (Krex, i believe would have to full on spam the thread), if I make it past the next couple of days but it’s still a lot. Isn’t spam normally looked down upon?
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 21:03 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:I find it interesting that we have yet to see any job flips from All the other jobs are useful for both town and scum though. But why would scum need a cop? Giving them a rolecop makes sense to me, someone who has never modded before and is in his or her first game. From the outside I can see an argument that it looks fishy though.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 21:52 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:For 3p, cult, other scum teams... 3P and cult have all been unique roles and didn't start down the town & (presumably scum) path. From the OP: "There will be 3p's with different abilities and the scum team will have additional abilities on top of their class choices."
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 22:07 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:My point was scum cop would have things to cop for Oh, I see. That first bit makes sense. That's a good point. I'll disagree with your second point mostly because I know what my role PM says, but concede it's unclear. Regardless, if I were scum why would I even mention that point? Seems like a terrible, awful play, especially given that I would (probably) have known that other roles didn't have a similar thing?
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 22:53 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:How do you feel about KB? KB has voted scummy, which is bad. KB could be faking it with Keane but after rereading the other day it seemed like a legit argument, and Keane had a similar argument with Dancer who flipped Town. KB could be a Knight/mo k and just knew Keane was town and used that knowledge as a seemingly legit cop claim which wouldn't even be contested. I'd vote but not hammer KB if it came down to it.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 23:28 |
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First one on me. I know I'm town, everyone else seems okay enough. I am going to assume you're scum and know I'm town and wanted to get the train rolling. ##unvote ##vote Asiina
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 23:38 |
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Kitiara posted:Votecount for Day 5 You should only feel good about your vote if you're not town. You feel townie to me though, so unfortunately that means you should feel bad about your vote. Town don't hammer me.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 23:40 |
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Suppose I do flip town (which I will), what extra info does town even get? Not much. I've voted against pretty much all of you at some point. KB isn't cleared. No one is cleared really, and no one else looks very suspicious since you all wound up voting for me. And we might get an extra town dead if they wind up hammering. So that's double bad.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 23:44 |
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GeneX posted:I think YPM's doing what I'd expect him to do from my hazy recollection of him as town (specifically TWEWY mafia comes to mind), insistently pressing on something he finds weird that appears kind of innocuous to me, while you're doing a kind of weird over-explanation/goodnatured and agreeable shame thing that makes me frown for reasons I wish I could articulate better (but which, given my history wrt thinking you're scum, is still leading me to tread cautiously.) Scum GX mentioned a couple players still alive, maybe consider that.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 23:52 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:Cubical, remind me if you have played mafia or similar games elsewhere before this Hal Incandenza posted:Cubical, remind me if you have played mafia or similar games elsewhere before this I have played some live action One Night Ultimate Werewolf a few times, but that's the extent of my experience. KB is a better lynch tonight because him flipping town clears Keane for sure and kinda clears me. Whereas the opposite isn't true. If KB flips scum then that's great for town although I'm probably dead next which isn't great. I still feel KB is town but have no clearer scum reads and it's now down to me trying to save myself. ##unvote ##vote King Burgundy Town don't hammer me and don't hammer KB.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2018 00:13 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 19:58 |
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I like to think we were all winners in this game. Except for town and the various third parties.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2018 02:47 |