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SamuraiFoochs posted:
Yeah I haven't watched but the recent Raws have all seemed decent. There are storylines being moved along. And new characters given things to do. I think the write ups just highlight dumb stuff on the show that didn't draw anyone's attention in the course of the 3 hours. It's also tiresome for people to rush in here and declare Raw bad when if you're still watching Raw at this point, you know what you're getting!
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah this is the best use of Dolph in quite some time, and Seth seems to bring out the absolute best in him without his usual idiosyncrasies getting in the way of his performances (or at least no longer overshadowing them). One of Dolph's major issues has been never slowing the gently caress down. Even when he did the punches in the corner spot, he'd do it too fast for the crowd to count along to; Seth's able to keep up at his pace without it being awkward.
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https://streamable.com/o5obu New WWE opening with the Marvel Studios music. drat it's eerie how they sync up.
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rovert posted:The Chairman of the General Sports Authority tweeted out a picture of Hulk Hogan leading to speculation that he will finally return to WWE at WWE Crown Jewel. https://twitter.com/HulkHogan/status/1044390670952214528
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I found the portion of Raw where Liv Morgan was kicked into unconsciousness very compelling.
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"Yeah I guess it was cool when Austin drove the beer truck in but otherwise that was the worst Raw ever" - this thread 20 years ago, probably
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How long until one of the full time women "drops Brie on her head by accident" to save the rest of them?
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SAVE_US.AKSANA
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Liv Morgan died for your Raw so you'd better like it.
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Chris James 2 posted:The Brie botch was interesting in the oldschool car-wreck style where you knew seconds in it started bad and would end somehow even worse but couldn't look away add the botch to the tag match to make it an even 13 minutes of "interesting" occurrences on a three hour show
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I'm mad at the people who like the show and mad at the people who dislike the show. I'm unwilling to reflect, and willing to skirmish.
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She was 24. She had a good run. Ya only livv once indeed.
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it owns that the universal champion is just constantly in 3-man tag matches now
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DLC Inc posted:it owns that the universal champion is just constantly in 3-man tag matches now I’d rather have matches with Seth and Ambrose + Reigns instead of just Reigns
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The Kimoa Kid posted:"Yeah I guess it was cool when Austin drove the beer truck in but otherwise that was the worst Raw ever" - this thread 20 years ago, probably Listening to the retro raw and nitro podcasts this is an accurate description of Russo era raw.
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DLC Inc posted:it owns that the universal champion is just constantly in 3-man tag matches now I mean, it is actually still better than what the champ used to do. Which was nothing.
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I said during Brock's run that with 30 belts it was fine to have an idiot garbage belt no one cared about, and I stand by that.
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Brock's run being bad was by design. It was booked to frustrate you, and you were told by the product that what he was doing was bad and wrong. The Shield run is supposed to be a gift to the audience. We're supposed to enjoy it, and the product is constantly telling you how great it is that The Shield, the three WORKHORSES of the WWE are back together. During the opening segment last night, The Shield made me turn off Raw. Maybe the stuff that happened later was more interesting, but the stuff that's supposed to be cool and good actually sucks. At least Brock was supposed to suck. Therefore, The Shield is worse and gently caress Raw.
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A lot of people are trying to blame Liv for leaning in and getting kneed, but either they don't realize or are ignoring that Brie hosed up the kick just before that and hit her in the face. Brie also botched a forearm a bit later. Ruby no-sells it and does not look happy: https://streamable.com/q4zh5 Both have been edited out of the Youtube version apparently.
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Vaguido posted:Brock's run being bad was by design. It was booked to frustrate you, and you were told by the product that what he was doing was bad and wrong. gently caress what you've said here!
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DLC Inc posted:it owns that the universal champion is just constantly in 3-man tag matches now That's what happens when you send every main eventer to the mid card. Other than Braun, what challengers are left? Dolph and Drew are busy with the tags and we'll get another 3-5 Braun matches that won't go anywhere. Corbin has lost, Balor has lost. Brock is off to UFC, Cena is in China. Maybe Owens or Lashley get a shot but I don't see them winning. Is this going to be another year plus reign and we're just waiting on a NXT Callup or part timer to take it? Maybe they'll send AJ to Raw at the next shakeup?
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why even have the bellas wrestle, just show up and plug their stupid drama shows on E
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DLC Inc posted:it owns that the universal champion is just constantly in 3-man tag matches now To be fair most of the year this is what the IWGP champ does too.
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Sep 25, 2018 14:25
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So she's back less than 2 months and has already had one match where she botched 2 separate dives, and one match where she legit stiffed two people, one to the point of unconsciousness
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Sep 25, 2018 14:25
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Chris James 2 posted:So she's back less than 2 months and has already had one match where she botched 2 separate dives, and one match where she legit stiffed two people, one to the point of unconsciousness Also whatever that disaster pin was in the tag match with Maryse.
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Aphrodite posted:A lot of people are trying to blame Liv for leaning in and getting kneed, but either they don't realize or are ignoring that Brie hosed up the kick just before that and hit her in the face. There's no "apparently." The highlights are three minutes and the back half are the final 90 seconds of the match. No mention of the knee or the forearm botches, no mention of Liv going to the back, BUT it does have Liv taking the triple suplex spot with a minimum of the ref telling her "no, stay in your corner." The Bellas botch, yet Nattie is the one taking the pin.
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Sep 25, 2018 14:29
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Chris James 2 posted:So she's back less than 2 months and has already had one match where she botched 2 separate dives, and one match where she legit stiffed two people, one to the point of unconsciousness Jinder Mahal lives on
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The Kimoa Kid posted:"Yeah I guess it was cool when Austin drove the beer truck in but otherwise that was the worst Raw ever" - this thread 20 years ago, probably So how much of that Raw do you remember aside from the beer truck bit? Because (& I've not seen it in 19 years) I feel confident in saying that yeah, that would have been a bad Raw. The go-home show before Wrestlemania XV, a show whose second most memorable moment after the main event between Rock & Austin was Butterbean flattening Bart Gunn. The opening skit has the beer truck, after that you have a sub 3 minute Tag Championship match with Jarrett & Owen going to a screwy finish against The Brood after a Public Enemy run-in. For some reason The New Age Outlaws fight each other in a IC title vs Hardcore title match, which isn't a hardcore match & ends after 3 minutes because of a run in from Goldust, Al Snow & Val Venis. Non-title match with Sable beating Ivory almost cleanly in 3 minutes, though there was a trip by Jackie before the Sable Bomb, but by the standards of Russo this was about as good as it gets. Winner of the next match to guest referee the main event, Mankind beats The Rock after 6:30 with a ref bump, & then The Big Show running in to chokeslam Mankind only for the ref to see it & DQ him. Kane vs. Goldust is meant to happen but "Goldust" throws a fireball at Kane & then pulls off his week to reveal himself as HHH so that doesn't even happen. X-Pac is meant to have a street fight with Shane McMahon but that doesn't happen after run-ins from The Mean Street Posse before it starts. Shamrock, Test & Bossman vs The Undertaker & The Acolytes starts with a nightstick shot to the Undertaker & descends into a brawl in the crowd that goes about 2 minutes & doesn't actually start as a match. Main event, Austin beats The Big Show after almost 10 minutes, after several chair shots which guest referee Mankind let go. You're talking about a whole host of run-ins, a fireball, no clean finishes, this is not a well booked card. Yeah, the Austin stuff was great because Austin, The Rock & McMahon were tremendous in their roles but one memorable segment is a bit poor in a 2 hour show. Worst Raw ever, no, obviously not, this was a pretty much par show in the Vince Russo era. Still an awful lot more bad than good and if you think otherwise it's simply because over the years it's easier to remember the good & forget the constant run-ins or Public Enemy even having a WWF run.
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That's kind of my point? It's a three hour show that's been on every week for decades, and suggesting it's insanely bad now ignores that fact that 1. there's pretty much something entertaining in each episode, and 2. virtually every episode in the history of Raw has had some dumb poo poo in it, because how do you avoid that when you're making so many shows? I can't recall ever once in my life watching a WWE weekly program from start to finish and thinking "every single second of that owned and was awesome."Vaguido posted:Brock's run being bad was by design. It was booked to frustrate you, and you were told by the product that what he was doing was bad and wrong. I genuinely don't understand what could've possibly happened in the opening minutes of the show that was so bad it made you change the channel. wicka fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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Aphrodite posted:A lot of people are trying to blame Liv for leaning in and getting kneed, but either they don't realize or are ignoring that Brie hosed up the kick just before that and hit her in the face. drat, I missed that one. Brie was supposed to take the forearm, not give it. Ruby owns for no selling what was a legit shot to the face. Wonder how tempted she was to give Brie a receipt for that and the Liv botch.
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1998 diehard WWE quality fan: "how dare the goddamn GDT not shower more praise on the Val Venis match, can't believe how much good they willfully ignore"
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The Kimoa Kid posted:That's kind of my point? It's a three hour show that's been on every week for decades, and suggesting it's insanely bad now ignores that fact that 1. there's pretty much something entertaining in each episode, and 2. virtually every episode in the history of Raw has had some dumb poo poo in it, because how do you avoid that when you're making so many shows? 93% of yesterday's RAW was dumb poo poo
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Raskolnikov38 posted:93% of yesterday's RAW was dumb poo poo I'd like to see this breakdown
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The Kimoa Kid posted:I'd like to see this breakdown the 13 interesting minutes divided by 190 minutes
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Codependent Poster posted:drat, I missed that one. Brie was supposed to take the forearm, not give it. Ruby owns for no selling what was a legit shot to the face. Wasn't ske like five feet away when Act Yasukawa was nearly murdered in-ring by an egomaniac who wanted to work stiff? So probably extremely tempted.
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Chris James 2 posted:So she's back less than 2 months and has already had one match where she botched 2 separate dives, and one match where she legit stiffed two people, one to the point of unconsciousness She was never a good wrestler to begin with but surely there have been other wrestlers who's botched as much...in almost the same amount of time...
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Aphrodite posted:Also whatever that disaster pin was in the tag match with Maryse. I think that Maryse was going to pull her tights but they just didn't get there in time? Maybe? gently caress I don't know.
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Draxion posted:Wasn't ske like five feet away when Act Yasukawa was nearly murdered in-ring by an egomaniac who wanted to work stiff? *reads wiki page* christ how was she not arrested by the japanese police
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Raskolnikov38 posted:*reads wiki page* quote:As a child, Yasukawa dreamed of becoming a samurai. Her parents supported her passion by guiding her into Kendo. However, when Yasukawa reached middle school she was informed there were no samurai in modern Japan. God drat. Rough life.
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