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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Well, this should be entertaining.

I will say that Komaru is cute and good, at least.

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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ultrafilter posted:

Is there a summary of the previous two games that doesn't involve going through multiple ~150 part LPs? I'm interested, but I'm not that interested.

DR1: A high school for talented kids is made, but crazy fashionista destroys the world and subjects her classmates to a murder game. Six people survive, those being an average Joe (Komaru's brother), a kid who is basically Seto Kaiba (Byakuya), a detective who might as well be the love interest of average Joe, an authoress with a serial killer persona, a dumb swimmer, and a fortune teller who is basically a gag character. Fashionista kills herself.

DR2: Survivors of the first game try their best to reform Fashionista's henchmen in the Matrix after joining an organization trying to save the dying world. Most of them seemingly die, but are told there is a very slim possibility they might live. Five of the henchmen reform to the way they were before they met crazy fashionista.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Maybe it's just me, but there's something I find a little excessive about this introduction sequence? I mean, I know this is a different type of game from the preceding two, but in those games, people only died when it was important to the plot or at the culmination of a trial. Here, we literally have mobs of faceless people being slaughtered, and it feels a little... I dunno. Maybe I'm just being overly critical, but that kind of took me out of things immediately. I think a more personal, intimate kind of setting where maybe it's a group of 16 that have to navigate an empty, already destroyed city and survive might've been more my thing.

Also, invariably someone is going to draw attention to it, so I'll just go ahead and say

TheMcD posted:

Please don't violate me! Please don't humiliate me!

Nuh-uh! Kiddie porn is a no-no!

thanks, Japan.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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How would you survive the event and not be worried about someone mentioning bears, anyway?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Blind Sally posted:

speakin of dangan rompas, if i have ignored every single thing about this game beforehand is there a good, bried summation someone can recommend so i can catch up?

Here you go.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

DR1: A high school for talented kids is made, but crazy fashionista destroys the world and subjects her classmates to a murder game. Six people survive, those being an average Joe (Komaru's brother), a kid who is basically Seto Kaiba (Byakuya), a detective who might as well be the love interest of average Joe, an authoress with a serial killer persona, a dumb swimmer, and a fortune teller who is basically a gag character. Fashionista kills herself.

DR2: Survivors of the first game try their best to reform Fashionista's henchmen in the Matrix after joining an organization trying to save the dying world. Most of them seemingly die, but are told there is a very slim possibility they might live. Five of the henchmen reform to the way they were before they met crazy fashionista.

Lord_Magmar posted:

One of the ones who reform is also a literally crafted super genius with every talent possible made by the school performing brain surgery on an even more average joe than the first main character.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Yeah, after a while, every other word out of Junko's mouth is despair/zetsubou and it just gets really .

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Nagito wanted to commit murder for muh hope, Teruteru tried to kill him for everyone else (or so he could escape and see his mom) only to wind up killing the fake Togami, Nagito preys on that desire to escape and helps him because muh hope vs despair, only to wind up ditching him at the end because he couldn't lie/bluff to literally save his life.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Worth noting that Mondo beating Chihiro to death was an accidental murder. Or, at least, the most accidental of the bunch. That case also has Byakuya's biggest rear end in a top hat moment that he never really gets comeuppance for, in hindsight.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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ultrafilter posted:

So everyone's fine with all that, but this game inspires groans? What are we in for here?

Well, there's a spoiler policy! You'll see.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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I was going to mention it later, but a warning before certain updates might not be a bad idea.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Nagito's Wild Ride was started to kill SHSL Despair.

At the end of the game, the survivors are no longer SHSL Despair.

You can't stop the HopeMan.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Oh, also, is the Alter Ego in DR2 the same one from the first game?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Mikan, being Mikan, probably did both.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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This is what those in Hope's Peak Academy call the Ultimate Handwave.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Yasuhiro was actually the murder victim of the demo case of DR1, as I recall. Then he was replaced with Sayaka in the actual game.

TheMcD posted:

Game sets up Sayaka as a childhood friend sidekick type? BAM, she's dead, and she actually never liked you and wanted to frame you for her attempted murder.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. It's just implied that she did a lot of shady things to become an idol/pop sensation and figured "What's one more bad thing to secure my spot in that position?".

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Mukuro was repeatedly stabbed with spears and then blown up, so I'm not sure her body is in much better condition.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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I don't think Monokuma has a license to operate that vehicle.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Well, Komaru seems to be involved in a game of sorts, so I think it's not quite fourth wall breaking as kinda sorta poking at the fourth wall.

Also, I always wondered why Nagito would be a servant to the kids that are using Monokumas considering he's in SHSL Despair.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Monaca is a very good mix of childish and menacing, yes.

TheMcD posted:

A game is different than reality... So that means even I can actually win!

How dare they use my likeness in this game without my permission?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Ratoslov posted:

I think Nagito wasn't required to put the collar and chain leash on, he just did it himself one day and all of the kids think someone else asked him to do it.

I'd believe either

A. Monaca told him to

B. When he came in saying he was SHSL Despair they were impressed, only for him to go on about hope or something, causing them to collar him.

LegionAreI posted:

I didn't think it was possible to dislike every character in a game but there it is. That was pretty obnoxious.

Curious to see where it's going, at least, but ugh.

I find most of the kids charming in their introductions.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Kangra posted:

So we've got a bunch of kids who seem to have it in for all adults, to the extent that they'll distrust and/or kill anyone over 18(?). They all seem to have suffered some form of abuse or neglect from adults (Daimon seems a possible exception, but we know Leon hated baseball so it could be something like that). I think it's a possible theory, especially given the way this series tends to portray the motivation for evil. That does not bode well for Utsugi's backstory at this point.

Generally teenaged and up seems to be the age range. I don't think Komaru is older than 16, but I could be wrong.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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We call that hairstyle the Bakura.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Toko in the first game is kinda ehhh. She's largely carried by her serial killer persona, I think.

I liked her more in this game, though.

TheMcD posted:

You better not get ahead of yourself! J-Just because you're ugly in a...in a cute way!

I'm not sure if this is a backhanded compliment or a backhanded insult.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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SoundwaveAU posted:

"Omaru" means "toilet" in Japanese, so there's a nice little double meaning here that doesn't really translate across.

TheMcD posted:



Well, hehe, if it isn't your little buddy!

And this is the reason why save points are toilets.

I also like how Touko grew an ahoge now that she's secondary main character.

TheMcD posted:

I'm sure an idiot like you would enjoy it, but I only acknowledge pure literature.
I mean, look at this! He's using dissociative identity disorder as a plot point, the hack! Poking fun at his subject without even considering how they feel... This is *not* professional!

Man, this is reminding me of a lot of fan-game LP discussions on this board.

Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Oct 15, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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This is the second time that Touko has called Komaru cute within probably an hour of meeting her, and I'm fairly certain that's more compliments she's paid her than everyone who isn't Byakuya in the first game combined.

So maybe this is her awkward attempt at flirting.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Toko is a closet fujoshi.

Genocider is the closet.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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TheMcD posted:

Hey, pig...repeat the promise you made with me.
Uh, uh... Oink oink oink?
In English, fool!

Alright, that got a laugh out of me.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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I wish I enjoyed anything as much as Komaru enjoys bullying children.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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If you told me that Komaru was quirky enough to get into Hope's Peak but Makoto's luck caused the letter to wind up in his hands instead, I'd believe it.

It'd require no first name or gender pronouns to be used in the letter, but I'd believe it.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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First her BFF and now her brother.

Being Aoi is suffering.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Faceless people have no bracelets, no. They're just civilians.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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TheMcD posted:

Can't you just be a little more positive instead of giving up right away all the time?

I know Komaru's been through a lot, but imagine being so gloomy that Toko says this to you.

Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 1, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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I feel like Toko is the kind of person that would make a YouTube channel like CinemaSins if she cared enough to watch movies.


Thanks for the nightmares, Kodaka.

Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Nov 3, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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TheMcD posted:

I-I won't...be...afraid... I'm not...scared...at all... I don't hafta be scared of the... The dark and the pain and the alcohol smell... Not anymore... Not anymore, not anymore! No matter how much you beat me, I won't be afraid anymore! You hear me!? Not going...be afr...aid...

Nothing like some good old-fashioned childhood trauma to spice up an attempted murder.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Qrr posted:

You won't? Why the heck not? Yeah, he's a kid, but he's also a murderer and torturer, so, uh, yeah, kill him.

I don't think further antagonizing the already homicidal children is going to make things better.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Charmander would have lasted past Chapter 1.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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TheMcD posted:

A prince! Who became! A star! What! Is essential! Is! Invisible! To! The! Eye!

But it stopped short! Never to go again! When the old man died, y'know!?

By now, it should be apparent who the best character in this game is.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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TheMcD posted:

L-Like I said earlier, we can't know that for sure... Believing a lie so strongly just makes the truth that much more painful. Pop idols aren't virgins, lottery numbers are fixed...

I have to wonder if that's a specific reference to Sayaka's backstory.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Oh hey, it's Jataro. I don't remember him being so bad compared to the othe- hahahaha NOPE

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

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Jataro in a nutshell.

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