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 Buy it Here if you're a PC overlord. After a decade of ports of VC1, crappy PSP games, and whatever the hell the mobile game was, there's finally a proper sequel to Valkyria Chronicles 1. And it's good! In the sense that it's mostly more Valkyria Chronicles 1! But Valkyria Chronicles 1 was very good, so VC4 is very good. It's out today for PC, Switch, PS4, and, miraculously, Xbox One. Is this like those crappy PSP games? Let's pretend those never happened. Well, 3 was okay, but it was still super hamstrung by being portable. Do I need to have played 1? It takes place at the same time as Valkyria Chronicles 1, but on a different front of the war. There's a couple of references to the events of VC1, and one character from VC1 makes an appearance or two, but it's almost entirely its own thing. What is a Valkyria Chronicles? quote:Valkyria Chronicles is a tactical role-playing game in which the player uses a unique turn-based battle system called BLiTZ (Battle of Live Tactical Zones).[8] During their turn the player views an overhead map in Command Mode, but zooms in to control each individual unit on the battlefield in Action Mode.[9] Movement and other actions are handled in real time during Action Mode, though limited in movement by an action point (AP) gauge that varies for each type of character.[9] During Target Mode, the player is in direct control of characters' aim while the action freezes, allowing for head shots and other maneuvers. Taking command of individual units during the player's phase costs Command Points, which can be used dynamically to grant movement to many different units or the same unit consecutively with diminishing AP reserve, depending on what the player wants to accomplish.[9] By using their troops the player must fulfill various conditions depending on the mission in order to achieve victory, most often the capture of a major enemy encampment. Upon completing missions, the player is awarded money and experience with which to upgrade their materiel and character classes, respectively, and the game's story is advanced. Missions can be failed if the player's forces are wholly incapacitated or killed, the squad's main battle tank is destroyed, or the player's main base camp is captured by the enemy. Could you quote Wikipedia some more? quote:Each character in the game fulfills a specific role — for instance, Alicia is a mid-range rifle-toting scout, while Welkin is a tank commander. Other roles include Shocktroopers (assault infantry), "Lancers" specializing in anti-tank warfare, snipers, and engineers.[9] These various units form a rock-paper-scissors dynamic of strength and weakness. The foot soldiers (Scout, Shocktrooper, and Sniper) are effective against slower anti-tank units, anti-tank units can quickly destroy tanks with a well-aimed shot,[9] and tanks are generally devastating against infantry, whose anti-personnel weapons are unable to inflict any significant frontal damage. While each character within a class is basically similar in terms of weaponry and statistics, each individual has a distinguishing set of Potentials: special abilities or stat modifiers triggered by various psychological or environmental factors in battle. Is this game anime?  What has actually changed from VC1? The introduction of a new class, Grenadiers, who use mortars to support your army from the rear, similar to an AOE sniper. They're useful for clearing out bases, rooftops, and watchtowers. Certain things, such as some of the mechanics surrounding tanks, have also been tweaked. Can I still scoutrush? Kind of? The map turn limits are a bit more generous in terms of getting A ranks, and map objectives are more varied and dynamic, sometimes in ways that will punish you for just blindly sending scouts forward. Stuff like ambushes, sudden twists in the battlefield, certain areas getting cut off from the rest of the battlefield by a bridge being blown up or something, stuff like that. However, scouts are still the best class, they just aren't quite as gamebreaking as they used to be. Does this use the EXP system from VC2? Nope! It doesn't take place in a school, either. VC4 is something of a soft reset, mostly ignoring mechanics and ideas introduced in 2 and 3. There's none of the weird side classes like Trumpeteer, maps are large and sprawling instead of a series of small skirmishes, EXP is on a per-class basis, you don't need to grind medals, etc. Basically, if you liked VC1 and disliked VC2, you'll like this game. How's the plot? It has the same tone problems that VC1 had, in the sense that anime grabass shenanigans exists alongside gritty war drama, but overall I liked a lot of the characters and thought some of the war drama landed. It's similar to VC1 in terms of the strengths and weaknesses of its plot, so if you played VC1 use that as a barometer, though I liked VC4's cast more. Except Raz. gently caress Raz. How's the performance on Switch? I didn't play it on Switch but I've looked at videos and stuff and everyone says it runs smooth even undocked. If anyone's got any impressions to the contrary, post 'em, but until then it seems like it was ported excellently. Can't speak to the performance on PC, either, though I haven't heard any complaints. What's the best anime? Shion no Ou. Endorph fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Raz bad, dog good
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Sep 26, 2018 11:38
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kirbysuperstar posted:Raz bad, dog good knight helmet girl also good
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Sep 26, 2018 11:51
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Endorph posted:knight helmet girl also good Hell yeah
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Sep 26, 2018 11:55
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this is a really good game and the digital switch version runs great. havent played undocked yet so ill have to report back
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Sep 26, 2018 11:56
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Endorph posted:Is this game anime? But it's postgame (it happens during the main story, but you only unlock the chapter after the ending) and the scenes leading up to it were a nice way to humanize the enemy soldiers
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Sep 26, 2018 11:57
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rags is the best but we dont get to give him orders to bite imperials, what a shame
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Sep 26, 2018 11:58
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Endorph posted:Is this game anime? You need to answer the more direct form of the question: Could this be a Vita title? There's no Jann but I'll overlook that. It doesn't have 2's endless high school text adventure and it doesn't look like 2's grind is here either. I really hope there's a way to let the dialog play, Persona style, because the streams I've seen have been clicking through each line and ten minutes of that is annoying. VC1 was a good game and this will be a good game. I like that they didn't feel the need to go all cringey... Tamba posted:There's a hot springs chapter. Dammit, Sega.
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Sep 26, 2018 12:13
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Blazing Zero posted:this is a really good game and the digital switch version runs great. havent played undocked yet so ill have to report back
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Sep 26, 2018 12:46
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Is there a veggies scene? Because I need to scream about my love for vegetables.
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Sep 26, 2018 13:19
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Not a fan of how they’re drip feeding the dlc out until December instead of all at once. I’m playing the game now and it’s unlikely that I’ll finish it and then pick it up months later to pay $6 for one mission. If it was all available now I’d buy it.
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Sep 26, 2018 13:42
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Got it on Switch, runs great even in handheld mode. Grenadiers are awesome, but seem a little OP, especially in the beginning.
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Sep 26, 2018 13:47
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game owns they also straight up added a tank battle mission which, while not terribly exciting given the format, still owns
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Sep 26, 2018 13:53
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Holy gently caress what in the hell were they even thinking when they created Raz You're in a war, stop being a next level creep
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Sep 26, 2018 13:54
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MechaX posted:Holy gently caress what in the hell were they even thinking when they created Raz War can't stop the power of boners
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Sep 26, 2018 13:56
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MechaX posted:Holy gently caress what in the hell were they even thinking when they created Raz I mean who is he gonna get some lovin from, the Imps?
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Sep 26, 2018 14:19
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Also you can take scout rush from my cold dead hands
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Sep 26, 2018 14:19
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Oh hey, a good new Valkyria Chronicles! Neat. Can't decide if I want PC or Switch. What's the Switch tax like? e: £50 either way, Jesus everloving gently caress  Endorph posted:What's the best anime?  I'm amazed anyone else remembers that, actually.
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Sep 26, 2018 14:23
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Autonomous Monster posted:Oh hey, a good new Valkyria Chronicles! Neat. Seems Fanatical is still floating a deal.
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Sep 26, 2018 14:26
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Overbite posted:Not a fan of how they’re drip feeding the dlc out until December instead of all at once. I’m playing the game now and it’s unlikely that I’ll finish it and then pick it up months later to pay $6 for one mission. If it was all available now I’d buy it. Probably trying to encourage people to (pre-)order the expensive version.
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Sep 26, 2018 14:28
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OddObserver posted:Probably trying to encourage people to (pre-)order the expensive version. Oh dang, I didn’t realize that DLC wasn’t available to anyone who didn’t get that version. I bought it because I love VC. The box is gigantic and the little Tank they include was surprisingly well done considering how bad that stuff can go (infinity stones for example). Apparently there’s supposed to be another piece of free DLC to people who pre-ordered game but I didn’t get anything.
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Sep 26, 2018 15:10
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Thanks for this, nabbed a PC copy for 39 euros.
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Sep 26, 2018 15:22
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The Black Stones posted:Oh dang, I didn’t realize that DLC wasn’t available to anyone who didn’t get that version. If I understood correctly, it is available, but with a delay.
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Sep 26, 2018 16:02
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Outside of missions that might specifically prohibit it, is there any reason you'd ever run without all your commanders out for more CP?
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Sep 26, 2018 16:08
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chumbler posted:Outside of missions that might specifically prohibit it, is there any reason you'd ever run without all your commanders out for more CP?
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Sep 26, 2018 16:29
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This game is fun but it is anime as hell and thus the dialog is seemingly written by a 12 year old.
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Sep 26, 2018 16:46
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Come on guys, Raz is great at being terrible . I was so happy with the Squad Stories unlocked--I hadn't known they were what they are, and it's exactly what I had wanted out of the VC1 dlc (we only got it for Edy of all people. Sure, Jan and Marina were there, but Edy? Really?). Destiny anyone know if there's a scenario for everyone? I want Viola to realize that her issues are holding her back from maximum murder efficiency.
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Sep 26, 2018 16:53
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Man, did the first Siegval Line battle. Place is stuffed with pillboxes and tanks, and they expect you to finish this in 5 turns (maybe even less, I did it in 7 and got a D rank)?
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Sep 26, 2018 16:55
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The Lord of Hats posted:Come on guys, Raz is great at being terrible . Was viola the sniper?
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Sep 26, 2018 16:59
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Leal posted:Man, did the first Siegval Line battle. Place is stuffed with pillboxes and tanks, and they expect you to finish this in 5 turns (maybe even less, I did it in 7 and got a D rank)? That was my exact experience as well. There's just so many overlapping cones of "gently caress you". I feel like the Cactus is probably critical to getting an A rank on there. waah posted:Was viola the sniper? Shocktrooper. She's Jane from VC1 if Jane's potentials weren't all carefully selected for maximum carnage. She gets Authority Issues and Darcsen Hater instead (her line is literally "I'm not racist, but...).
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The Lord of Hats posted:That was my exact experience as well. There's just so many overlapping cones of "gently caress you". I feel like the Cactus is probably critical to getting an A rank on there. Same, also 7 turns/D, loved the mission though.I do wonder about the cactus in there --- it was tough enough for me to keep the Hafen alive...
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Sep 26, 2018 17:40
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The Lord of Hats posted:That was my exact experience as well. There's just so many overlapping cones of "gently caress you". I feel like the Cactus is probably critical to getting an A rank on there. Its bonkers cause I did the mission after that in 5 turns for an A, and not only is it a significantly smaller map, it isn't quite so crazy with the overlapping pillboxes. If 7 turns got a D, that would mean an A would be at most 4 turn, less turns then the significantly easier map 
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Sep 26, 2018 17:42
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Only thing I know about Raz is that sexual harassment article that keeps popping out
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Sep 26, 2018 17:45
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Heads up, for Sievgal Line 3 do NOT put any troops in the 2 southern slots in the northern deploy zone. What the gently caress game, that is a serious dick move.
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Sep 26, 2018 18:06
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siegval 1 teaches you very nicely that you need to snipe the gently caress out of mortars before you try to take a camp.
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Sep 26, 2018 18:27
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Siegval 3 can choke on a bag of dicks. Ahahaha they want this mission beaten in 4 turns or less go choke on a dick Sega.
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Sep 26, 2018 20:31
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I honestly liked everything but the plot/setting from 2 better than 1 so I dunno if I'll pick this up. Maybe!
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Sep 26, 2018 21:21
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does anyone go HahahaHAHAHAHA every time they have a canned line?
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Sep 26, 2018 21:28
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there is a very important question is there still an anti-armor trooper who can win a slugging match with a tank powered solely by how much he enjoys having sex with men
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:there is a very important question Speaking of Lancers, I have read in a review that Grenadiers make them somewhat redundant since you can aim for their weakspot without having the circle around. Personally, I kind of think that it is bullshit because 1. The review in question was Ars Technica, and I can't say I trust them for reviews 2. I played the demo and while Grenadiers are awesome I wouldn't count on them to make a pinpoint shot. Still, I am curious if that has been anyone else's experience.
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