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Jul 17, 2012

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esperterra posted:

100% more invested in Chidi and Simone than I was Eleanor and Chidi after one episode lol, they just go so well together. I hope it doesn't go love triangle-y and they go another route if/when Eleanor and Chidi hook up again.

But now she's free to bed Tahani clearly !!!

Yes and YES.

I'm actually kind of surprised the narrative beat there wasn't Tahani accepting Eleanor's invitation because living with her would be the less materialistic option and she's trying to get back on track. But that might have just been wishful, gay thinking on my part.

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Jul 17, 2012

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cant cook creole bream posted:

There really can't be selfless acts of good. Humans are developed as highly social herd animals. There's some biological instinct to help each other in our brains, since it has always been advantageous to keep the herd strong.
Besides, if you want to be, you can be really cynical about it: If someone states that they are doing good, just because it feels right to help, they're acting irrational just to make their brains produce a highly addicting cocktail of serotonin and adrenaline. So in essence being good is just a natural way of consuming mind altering drugs.

Which is like saying the jokes on this show aren't funny because they're just vibrations carried through the air, so if you think about it you're only into this show because it stimulates your tympanic membrane.

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Jul 17, 2012

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cant cook creole bream posted:

Honestly, I was arguing in bad faith there. The idea that a good deed is just equivalent to jabbing a needle into your arm is just to depressing not to share.
It's certainly not my personal opinion.

It's not really depressing, just kinda dumb.

Like I'm not sure how much of this is covered by "I was arguing in bad faith", but you described it as "getting more cynical", and that's not really cynical so much as reductive. Also, calling a normal function of a healthy brain "highly addictive"--I dunno who's opinion you're representing if not your own, but you should go back and tell them I said "what are you, Immortan Joe?"

It's a human insult, it's devastating.

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Jul 17, 2012

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SirSamVimes posted:

My favourite thing about the "It's devastating. You're devastated right now." is that it strongly implies that Michael was devastated when Eleanor used it on him.

Right? Even a demon respects and dreads Eleanor Shellstrop's garbage slinging.

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Jul 17, 2012

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Soothing Vapors posted:

yeah uh I gotta go lie down

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Today I found out I’m gayer than I thought bc of shirtless chidi

I'm sapphic as gently caress, I'm almost never attracted to guys, but: drat. It's not even just the body, it's the fact that someone with that brain has that body.

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Jul 17, 2012

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Kaedric posted:

Weren't folks giving someone poo poo because it was 'creepy' to like Janet in that waitress outfit?


Just... sayin

Let me help you out here. Saying someone is physically attractive is not inherently weird! It's possible to appropriately express attraction to someone because they took off their shirt. On the other hand, there is no appropriate way to express attraction to someone specifically because they had to put their hair in pigtails and wear daisy dukes, because that is infantilizing.

Hope that helps! To get back on topic a bit, Chidi would call the fact that you brought that up in relation to this a 'false equivalence'. It's a logic term.

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Jul 17, 2012

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Caros posted:

If anyone is pulling this, it is Eleanor. She comes in with the idea.

But if Eleanor knows it, then that means she's still hosed even if everyone else is alright.

Unless she's thought of that, because then she'd think she was doomed and yet choose to do good anyway.

But if that's occurred to her, then she would be doomed again.

Unless...

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Jul 17, 2012

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It could be. The writers either know exactly what they're doing with that and it's something, or they're doing nothing and they're winning.

Rarity posted:

Well now I'm screwed, gently caress you :mad:

It's okay, if you keep doing good even though you believe you're screwed, you're fine.

Unless someone tells you that, of course, but who would do such a thing.

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Jul 17, 2012

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LinkesAuge posted:

I mean this is overall a show with a very positive tone so it won't be an "everyone is doomed" ending. My take on this is that ANYONE can "go" to the good place and it's actually up to them based on how they judge themselves (honestly) internally. So if you think/feel (in your heart of hearts) you were a "bad" person in your life you will go to the bad place but it's totally up to you and not some arbitrary system (and everything we see, the bad place, the demons and so on are just a tool for people in the afterlife to reflect on themselves). I really can't see anything else than "anyone chooses his own afterlife" because everything else does have kinda bad implications and wouldn't feel right for this show.

But Tahani 100% believed she was getting into the Good Place, and if you have to choose in any sense then Chidi would have been in Limbo the whole time, and do you really think people are inspired to reflect on themselves by lava monsters and butthole spiders, and you have to assume there's no such thing as points which mean Michael and Janet were wrong about everything, and if people aren't actually being judged then why is there a judge, and why would someone deeply believe in their heart that they deserve just kind of an okay-ish afterlife, and...

Basically I don't think any theory that throws out the whole show is worth considering.

The Bad Place reveal worked because the show had built up its internal logic, and then just changed the starting premises. The characters weren't in the afterlife they thought they were, but they were dead and had been judged. Whatever happens next, however unpredictable, is still going to fit in the show's basic framework. Otherwise the show so far might as well have not happened, you know?

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So what this means is that no one in the last 500 years has exceeded the moral standard set by Mindy St. Claire.

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-2000 if it's about wine or cheese, because that makes you more French.

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enki42 posted:

Podcast spoilers:

Apparently Mike Schur confirmed they're in the actual for real Good Place during the table read.

Good. It would take a lot out of the first season's punch if they did that again.

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Jul 17, 2012

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Mordiceius posted:

I feel like all the writers of this show played The Nonary Games and we are moments away from going full loving bonkers.

THIS is the moon base!

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Jul 17, 2012

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howe_sam posted:

https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1131551628308430848
Get all the answers to your burning questions about season 3.

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Yeah. Our internal logic is that his constant anxiety burns a lot of calories, and also that at some point someone was like, “You know, exercise is a good way to alleviate stress,” and he started doing push-ups and never stopped.

I laughed, and then I realized that's exactly why I've been spending so much time at the gym lately.

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