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GreyjoyBastard posted:Sean knocked it out of the park this episode. He's called Shawn because he has absolutely the worst possible spelling of the name. I'm so glad they put it on Netflix here as soon as it's been on in the US, I wish more companies did that sort of thing.
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Aardark posted:
It's the American spelling. You'll have a hard time finding a person that's not American/Canadian (and sometimes Chinese) with that spelling as their first name. At least for me it'd be pronounced really differently whereas I can at least see Sean being pronounced the same as Shaun.
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It really annoyed me that they said "England is leaving Europe". loving Americans.
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Klungar posted:Scotland voted for Independence in this timeline. Did Wales and Northern Ireland too then?
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Robot Hobo posted:This is Jason we're talking about. I think, somehow, it still counts. He also called Chidi Jazz, the only black Transformer. Doltos posted:You're all England. Tough. Shoulda thought about that before being invaded by the Picts. That makes even less sense than what they said on the show buddy.
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Oct 7, 2018 11:13
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I keep getting spoiled because I forget it's on a different loving day in the US.
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Nov 2, 2018 10:28
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Having that lady from Popular who is only 9 years older than Kristen playing her Mum absolutely took me out of the show. So weird.
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Nov 4, 2018 12:37
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Combat Pretzel posted:Heh, I recognized Michael McKean by the back of his head. Me too, it's a rare thing but he's just so recognisable. And yea I was thinking of jains when he pulled up the radishes. Think of all the insects he might inadvertently kill!
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Nov 17, 2018 00:53
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Toast Museum posted:Who has Janet identified as going to the Good Place? It was Michael who mentioned Abraham Lincoln in the pilot, and otherwise they've mostly named people who went to the Bad Place. In the podcast intro she says the most popular podcast in the Good Place is Mozart and Jimi Hendrix talking about music, but it's a bit of a stretch to count that as part of the show. Besides, it could just mean that the Good Place has a podcast that simulates those two, not that they are themselves in the Good Place. I'm going to say it seems weird that Lincoln got into the good place. Ending slavery is likely a lot of points but it's not like he did any super good stuff in his life, especially if Doug is the model of the sort of things you do need to do. After all his motivation wasn't just "I'd like to end slavery because it's good for people" and that's what you seem to need to have!
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Nov 18, 2018 09:23
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BioEnchanted posted:I'd like if the reason Sean is so desperate for the new souls is simply because Michael was right and the usual things are losing their magic for everyone. After billions of years of torture, they've lost the fear of it. Any phobias have long since been immersion therapied out after countless exposures to them and all the orifices and body parts are accounted for, so even the new tortures are greeted not with fear but will "Really? Butthole spiders? How are they different from the butthole Squid? Or the Butthole fireants?" Certainly the screams are real, they still have the actual pain that they are inflicting, but due to losing the fear of it it's lost it's fun. Like Michael's constant lying about his good place, their successes are just posturing. It doesn't work like that because you can just delete people's memories! Also he's called Shawn because he has the worst spelling of the name.
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ZRM posted:You know, something that might be neat is if the system wasn't broken maliciously. Maybe the system was set up in the time of the cavemen and them just living normally got them enough Good Place points to go to the Good Place. Room to be sent to the bad place too, I'm sure, but there was equal opportunity for Ug and Og to go to either one depending on their choices. Time isn't linear and the system was set up when all of creation had happened. It can't work like that or it'd mean the good place and bad place are also experiencing the passage of time the same way we are and we can see that they're not.
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Nov 18, 2018 14:34
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greententacle posted:Then it would be like the Inquisitor episode of Red Dwarf, where Rimmer & the Cat judge themselves to continue to exist, while Lister & Kryten judge themselves to be erased from history Yea, the good place would have Tahani in it if it was like Inquisitor, for sure.
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Nov 30, 2018 13:04
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WhiteHowler posted:It's exactly this. They want to show episodes when more people will watch them. I can't really fault the networks for that, even though it sucks having to wait. I don't really understand that as an argument since for shows like this not many people are actually watching it live. But it's on Netflix here anyway, so "when people will watch it" feels like a nonsense, it's there to watch always. Just put the whole thing up when it's available thanks.
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The idea that it's super hard to get points now because the things that gave you points were decided on when you could only influence a few thousand people seems pretty legit and I like it. But Mindy St Clair and the way time works feels like it hurts the revelation of the 512 years. St Clair means the bad place can't be hacking it, it's definitely down to making points mega loving hard to earn. We know that the threshold of points goes up as you get older as well, which is why Doug is hosed. So if the good place is abandoned like this episode seems to infer (or at least they don't care) what was going on with St Clair? They really need to explain her again now I think. I guess she has the advantage of whatever she did was "new" so that they're assigning points values to it for the first time ever, at least. But since time doesn't exist and the guys lived for 300 years in the Bad Place how can it be that "512 years passed"? It just feels like that time bit throws it out of whack.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Do points of an action change over time or over location though? Weed could be perfectly legal now and harmless when used correctly, but 30 or so years ago it could be knowingly breaking the law which is very likely a loss of points. Honour killing would be utterly reprehensible for most of the western world but for some cultures it's considered a way to 'preserve family honour'. If the points are set when it's first done then I'd assume it's fine and our laws don't really matter. Remember, it's all about context! Toast Museum posted:We don't know that at all. Another possibility (and the way I interpreted the joke) is that there's some fixed point goal, and 500k sounded good until he realized how little time Doug has left to hit the goal. I realise Michael's good place wasn't quite real but Tahani had 900k and it seems weird that the point threshold would be so enormous. Whereas basing it on how much you've got at that point makes more sense. I wish we knew how many points St Clair had.
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Xelkelvos posted:With Mindy, I assume it's because her foundation would've been so large and so massive that it definitely would've breached the wide reaching scale that the Accountants seem to factor in. Unfortunately, she died just before she could actually put it into action. Remember that the point of contention was if her points could be added posthumously I know, but Jeremy Bearimy doesn't really line up with "it's 2018 now" I guess. I wonder if Bill Gates is destined for the Good Place.
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A Sometimes Food posted:One thing to remember with Jeremy Bearimy, Michael explicitly says that's how time eorks in the afterlife. In the real world time is linear. So521 years on earth is still 521 years So does that mean you stay at the point you died forever and no new people ever come to your paticular afterlife?
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Phenotype posted:No, I think you die in 2018 and go to the afterlife where it's on Jeremy Bearimy time. Then from your point of view, the next day you welcome to the neighborhood a new arrival who just died in 1984. The next day someone arrives from 2025. It doesn't have to match up, or go in a linear direction. So then how do they say it's been 512 years since someone went to the afterlife?
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Phenotype posted:It's been 512 years Earth-time since the last person got in. So time still progresses somehow on Earth and it's still 2018 even though 300 years have passed. Which I'm down with, I just think that them trying to explain it has sorta made it worse than if they'd just left it hanging.
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RBA Starblade posted:Space and time is distorted in Then how can they say for sure that it's been 512 years since someone went to the good place?
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Gaz-L posted:I'm actually curious. What did you think the point of the Jeremy Bearimy scene/concept was? Because you obviously got something different out of it than the majority of viewers. That arrival-style all time is happening at once, sort of, and you could die in 2095 and be in the afterlife before someone who died in 1950. But then this episode torpedoed that. Jingleheimer posted:If only they had just mentioned what year it was when the last person made it into the good place rather than how many years ago it was, this whole conversation wouldn't have had to happen. Yep that would have been absolutely fine. Taear fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Dec 13, 2018 |
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Dr Christmas posted:Is this the first time we learn that you need a large number of points to get into the Good Place? I just assumed it had to be positive, with better rewards the higher you got, and Mindy Saint Claire being the only person ever to get exactly zero. It is, and I assumed exactly the same thing.
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enki42 posted:Oh look, there's lots of new posts in the Good Place thread, let's see what it is... Oh no people discussing a programme, that's terrible! The Good Place likes to explain stuff, I don't see why it's unreasonable to want an explanation for things.
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FELD1 posted:It just seems like people are getting bogged down in details that don't matter in the slightest bit, and don't add to the humor or charm of the show. The last time someone got into the good place is a massive deal and the main plot point though.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I'm gonna be honest, if it were me I would have just left it non-specific "The last human to get into the good place was oooh....1492?" Because then you're not giving the impression there's a present day, just that the last time was then.
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mortal posted:Mindy started a foundation that improved every facet of human existence on Earth solely because she wanted to do good...and then died before she could do anything to lose points, or develop selfish motivations for the foundations work that would deny her the points it earned. That still seems to fit the theory that the criteria is absurdly high. She's nice though, just think - she let Chidi and Eleanor stay with her over and over and etc. Although maybe it's selfish because she wants some company.
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greententacle posted:Except for how the episodes come out weekly instead of the whole season being released all at once If I didn't read this thread I'd have no idea it was on NBC. Some things on netflix just come out every week instead of all at once. And while yea that means it's airing elsewhere I doubt many people make that connection.
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Sub Rosa posted:So did Lincoln go to the good place or no with the 512 year thing Forgetting the "are you asking if Lincoln lived longer than 512 years ago" because god I hope you're not asking that, he wouldn't qualify because he didn't do anything good with good intentions. You'd have to be freeing the slaves entirely through altruism. And possibly without anyone dying actually?
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Sub Rosa posted:512 years ago from our present isn't 512 years ago from the present of the show because they have been tortured for some centuries by now, even before we get into Jeremy Bearamy time and how that could effect how we interpret what is meant by no one has gotten into the good place in that long. He ended slavery because of political expedience, it's not going to count. Especially when you consider that all points are related to the first time they happened so it's happened a bunch of times and meant much less. And yea I think that time in the afterlife being Jeremy Bearimy but time in the real world progressing at normal speed makes no sense but nobody wants to talk about that I guess. I can't justify in my head the idea that time in the afterlife has no rules but we can still also say "it's 2018 and nobody who died after that is in the afterlife even though there's no time in the afterlife"
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They could have solved it super easily though by saying "the last time someone entered the good place was in 1492". Doesn't really matter if time is linear or not then, as long as that's the cutoff.
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:It’s not just about that though, they dug this hole long before that when they reset the fake good place timelines over and over again. Sometimes the story is more important. They established in season 2 that human time and afterlife time work differently and this entire season 3 has been dependent on that premise at its core They did and that's fine but THEN they said "nobody has entered the good place for 512 years" so that implies it's 2018 in the afterlife as well. That's it, that's all that's weird.
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wizzardstaff posted:Or it means 512 subjective years from the point of view of the accounting office. No one said anything about the earth year 1506 being the last year someone went to the Good Place. They actually did, apparently (as mentioned here) something specific happened at or around that time which has made the difference and that was said in the podcast by the creator. The idea previously was that the world "got bigger" then so suddenly the amount of points you needed to get into the good place became impossible. But nobody knows for sure. So like is it subjective or is it real? Because with that information it's pretty hard to say.
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Senor Tron posted:For anyone in their 20s it totally would be though. I feel like Cheers is a super American thing. But then again so is Becker. I always forget he's in Cheers and if I try and watch it the show comes across as impossibly old fashioned. Kinda like Friends.
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Davros1 posted:What?! It's Ted Danson's most famous role! Becker was barely on TV here, I'd absolutely say it's not. Hell I think Curb is what made him properly famous to me. It's also pretty funny that the country that actually broadcasts and makes the show is the one where it's hardest to watch. I guess the same goes for ST:Discovery though. Taear fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Regy Rusty posted:Whoosh If it's meant to be a joke they're just repeating the one that started this? Which isn't funny.
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ashpanash posted:I read it more as a critique of philosophical absolutism, but I think it's interesting and funny that so many vocal posters are jumping to the idea that an ad-supported TV show on one of the major media companies in the country is somehow devastating to the bourgeoisie. It reminds me of conservative websites that list "the top 100 conservative songs" and they're completely unaware of how full of poo poo they are. It is absolutely about capitalism. Don't be the "Ah I see you use things in society so how can you be against it??" guy. They really couldn't make it clearer with their Roses thing.
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bbf2 posted:Any page would have been filled with the perfect argument. It's the book of people who primarily go by the name "Doug" (and not by the full name of Douglas or Dougal) which is primarily a western name and certainly didn't rise to prominence as a nickname prior to 500 years ago. Look up Doug, it absolutely definitely would have been said more than 500 years ago. Certainly a western name though. Talking of that, the Good Place committee saying it would have taken 1400 years surely doesn't matter because time isn't the same in the afterlife? Blah.
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Rarity posted:Jeremy Bearimy Exactly though. Who cares if it's 1400 years when it's Jeremy Bearimy years? After all they've been in the afterlife for at least 300 years and it's still 2018.
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Argue posted:You're really hung up about this. I already said this earlier in the thread but you'll just have to accept that time works in whichever way has the most dramatic impact for the show. It isn't some well defined theory of time that you can unravel by obsessing over a blackboard drawing of the phrase "Jeremy Bearimy" in English cursive. Because them mentioning the actual specific length of time fucks up the rules they've created and I don't like it. It'd be so much easier to just say "The last person to enter the afterlife was in 1492!"
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