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Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

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precision posted:

Oh man now I want Parker Posey on this show

And all shows and movies

"MOM SIMON WON'T LET ME DISINFECT THE GASH IN HIS HEAD!"

I saw her in a really lovely movie called Hair Brained in which she is the most perfectly negligent mother Hollywood has ever known.

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Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

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I liked Janet's ever increasing humanity. The way she reacted to thought of getting marblized at the end of the episode was a huge contrast from the dispassionate way in which she described the process way back when. She fears death now!

And the allegory of the cave thing is really cool. Didn't think of it myself but it fits beautifully.

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Jan 2, 2005

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tarlibone posted:

Maybe, but a much more plausible explanation is that he's so exhausted that his brain isn't working correctly. He's disoriented and can't spell simple words. That, and I know what the allegory of the cave is, and it really doesn't fit here: it's about one's perceptions of reality (and by extension, normality) being based on the limits of one's lifetime of experiences. Chidi is experiencing actual reality as he always has; he's just tired and isn't thinking straight, and it's making him act strangely. The gag continues as he acquires a socket wrench (w/ attached socket) and has no idea how he came to possess it, and he even has an auditory hallucination.

The allegory, to me, was about the frustration of imperfection versus the ideal. The apple I just ate was not a platonic ideal apple; it was misshapen, bruised, and not very flavorful. But it was close enough to be an acceptable apple to me. Contrast that with Chidi's inability to make decisions. He is obsessed with attaining the most perfect thing to the point of taking an hour to select the best possible muffin, and Trevor succeeds in making him question whether he's running the most ideal study. The sleep deprivation just amplifies his frustration of being stuck in a cave.

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Jan 2, 2005

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I like the idea of Simone as a good place agent, but it feels too ... nice, to be the case. If we've learned anything it's that the showrunners have Janet-like knowledge of any and all fan theories so as to subvert them. I feel like the only thing I probably know for sure is that for whatever reason transpires, nobody on Team Cockroach will lead very (relatively) long do-over lives. I'm just excited to see how that comes about and how long it takes.

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Jan 2, 2005

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That's insane. I always notice shoddy ADR in network television but that's above and beyond.

Just like the rest of this show, I guess.

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Jan 2, 2005

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So maybe the demons working the Bad Place are actually just humans who got into their own versions of the Good Place? :v:

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Jan 2, 2005

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So, would a nihilist let those abs go to flab because nothing matters, or would he maintain them to keep bonetown with literally everybody on the radar, because nothing matters?

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Jan 2, 2005

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E: n/m

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Jan 2, 2005

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SirSamVimes posted:

I mean the Tahani stuff came off as pretty explicit that she was bi to me.

Yeah, I'm really bad at reading between the lines for sexual preferences, but even I figured out that Eleanor was bi earlier on. I thought there was something else to it even, not just Tahani being hot, but I could easily be wrong.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Renaissance Spam posted:

I've been playing around with idea; namely that the bad place immortals are actually humans and this is all a "second level" of life where the sadistic bastards just stay there but those who question the system eventually move up the ladder towards whatever level 3 is.

This thought has occurred to me as well, so it's almost certainly incorrect. I thought it could be something like these people went to The Bad Place and were tortured for however many years, and at the end of the sentence they get to go to town on the new kids with all of their pent up aggression. We also know that The Bad Place has all kinds of dead end clerical jobs, which is its own kind of torture (the kind Michael went through).

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Jan 2, 2005

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Cyster posted:

Oh no, they (accurately) hit my brand of sun-baked trash, northern Nevada. :v:

Everything is ____ Springs or ____ Valley, casino puns are everywhere, etc. Yep. That's home.

somebody once told me that Reno is where people go when they're kicked out of Vegas confirm/deny please thanks

Also,

nerdman42 posted:

I'm kind bummed Eleanor and Tahani forgave Donna/Kamilah when the latters didn't even... apologize. But I can accept the Kamilah situation enough and Eleanor seemed to forgive Donna more out of a sense of giving Patricia a normal life.

Kamilah's deal was that she and Tahani basically did the exact same thing for the same reasons but in different ways. Tahani does feel the need to apologize still, but cunty as she's acted, I think Kamilah is simply a more dispassionate person. That alone isn't worth bad place points, and Kamilah's hug and sudden lenience constitute a more heartfelt apology than words. We all heard what Kamilah does to words (shudder).

With Patricia, Eleanor grew more from all that than she did. And it's not about a normal life; it takes Eleanor the entire episode to realize that her mom has in fact changed and is racking up good place points by acting like a decent person from her own free will.

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Jan 2, 2005

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1) thanks man

2) And somehow, Florida is still worse!

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Jan 2, 2005

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I'm as happy as anybody, but was there much of a question about getting renewed for season 4?

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Jan 2, 2005

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Critics vote on the Globes as well.

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Jan 2, 2005

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I think the slumber party slamdown with Michael after seeing the door did a lot of that heavy lifting.

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Jan 2, 2005

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I think it follows that Michael would craft his fake good place to mimic the real one to the extent possible. If you look for more plot holes you can find them though. Maybe I missed it in the podcast, but if Chelenor's home is sneakily terrible, what is wrong with the Jahani mansion? She gets literally everything and he gets a secret man cave.

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Jan 2, 2005

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I thought Eleanor was perfect Chidi torture! He's obsessed with what is morally correct, and she is (was) unapologetically morally bankrupt. Her way is to dismiss his obsessive life's work out of hand. Michael really lucked into that one.

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Jan 2, 2005

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I'm wearing pants as leggings as a shirt.

Send help.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Warm fruit pie is...bad?

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Jan 2, 2005

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That's cool but if you've ever made jam you know that licking the hot fruit goo from the whisk is pretty much the best part, like cookie dough. And what about warm fruit sauce and syrups for cold non-fruit desserts?!

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Jan 2, 2005

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Ironically enough, I think the "Hawaiian" pizza originated in California. I've been told that California-style pizza is basically the act of putting weird poo poo on pizza and calling it good, like chicken and sweet barbecue sauce.

That said I don't have any issues with pineapple on pizza, but my favorite pineapple is covered with the other kind of heat (cayenne).

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Jan 2, 2005

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I finally remembered; the best banana preparation ever is banana brulée. Halve a ripe banana lengthwise, lay the two down with the flat sides up, sprinkle your sugar of choice across the tops, and light those bitches up with a kitchen torch until just bubbly.

Super easy, super tasty, super impressive looking if you have guests over.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

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So, even people in the bad place are shielded from the embarassing ways in which they died. There's a certain strange kindness there.

I'm getting the impression from this show that as well-thought-out as it is, it encourages the viewers to do some mental gymnastics to figure things out. I don't think this is a :lost: where the script writes checks that it cannot cash, but there's definitely a sense of overanalysis going on here.

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Jan 2, 2005

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She said some kind of poo poo things equating human pain and suffering to closeness with God. She took things a few steps further than not having training or money for medicine; there's evidence that she knowingly did harm/prevented treatment to the sick.

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Jan 2, 2005

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King of Foolians posted:

The 3rd season is still airing. Netflix (in the US, at least) almost NEVER adds a season until it’s completely aired on regular tv.

To add to what others have said from overseas, you're never going to see this happen with Big Three(four) network shows in the States. You can thank Hulu for that (and, in the case of Star Trek, CBS). I think Better Call Saul was the first we got to see of weekly episodes on Netflix, and that's AMC.

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