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Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Gaz-L posted:

The next step is Michael going down full-time, right? The Judge makes is a competition where Trevor and Michael try and pull the group to their side, maybe with Janet as a referee?

Oh hell ya. I'm fully on board for Adam Scott deviously ruining the group dynamics while Michael tries to keep up

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Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Jason's going to sell his soul to Shawn for tickets to a Jag's playoff game

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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The_Doctor posted:

Holt’s a lucky guy.

He's been in a ton of stuff but now whenever I see him I instantly think of Kevin. He's the epitome of a late 40's professor husband.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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double nine posted:

... I may need to see this now.

You're in for a huge treat. Ignore all the complaints about flanderization of the characters and enjoy the ride.

Seriously Ben Wyatt is one of the few characters I can think of in the entire history of television that came in midway through a show and made it better.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Gaz-L posted:

I think that's kind of what hurt Ann (Rashida Jones' character) in the long run though. She's kind of built to be kind of a cringe comedy character and the rest of the show turns into something more akin to B99 or TGP.

Rashida Jones was a straight man foil to Poehler's extreme wackiness. She extended that to Ron, April, and Chris too.

Hell I think her job was even harder once Adam Scott's character became involved in whackier concepts.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Plato being written Palto on the board made me a lot more uncomfortable than it should have.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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GreyjoyBastard posted:

this wasn't entirely my favorite episode but the judge chewout is making up for it

lol :stare:

"Good luck, frogman. Pullin' for ya."

Jeff owns I want an entire show about Jeff

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Taear posted:

It really annoyed me that they said "England is leaving Europe".
loving Americans.

You're all England. Tough. Shoulda thought about that before being invaded by the Picts.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Taear posted:

That makes even less sense than what they said on the show buddy.

Why don't you go ride a lorry about it

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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seaborgium posted:

See, I don't think the "Simone is a Good Place Agent" theory works. The judge checked in on the 4 humans, and immediately recognized everyone who wasn't a human. If Simone was a good place agent, the Judge should be able to see that immediately and she would have been grabbed by the doorman as well. I think she's just a decent human being.

Simone's a bad place agent who is warming up to each human in order to take them all down when they aren't expecting it.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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I wonder if the writers ever think huh should we flesh out this points system concept nah no way will people over analyze our light hearted take on the after life

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Robot Hobo posted:

I'm thinking that at some point the four humans will be let into the Good Place, positions fully earned, no strings attached.

And it turns out that the Good Place also sucks. So they're still not done.

I can see them getting up to the Good Place and having it be boring or full of lovely people, then they contribute a season to fixing the Good Place or the system, whatever.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Everything about this show is fantastic

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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the_american_dream posted:

Donkey Doug may be my favorite casting of any show of the history of anything I’ve ever watched.

He has retroactively make me like Jason my formerly least favorite character

To each their own but Jason's been my favorite from the get go. Tahani and Eleanor are usually my least favorite in a scene but I still love both their characters so it's like them scoring 90's out of 100. I could watch whole episodes of Jason and Michael or Chidi and Janet. Especially during season 2 when Michael and Chidi were interacting more while learning about philosophy. Donkey Doug and Pill Boi transcend Jason into a spot where all three of them should have a show about hustling in Jacksonville.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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nerdman42 posted:

I'm kind bummed Eleanor and Tahani forgave Donna/Kamilah when the latters didn't even... apologize. But I can accept the Kamilah situation enough and Eleanor seemed to forgive Donna more out of a sense of giving Patricia a normal life.

Growing up is realizing that not everyone needs to apologize. Tahani loves her sister. She doesn't need an apology to want to get her into the good place. That's self motivation and selfish. Same with Eleanor. Donna's her mom. Eleanor realizes that Donnas has faults and wants to help her life. What does an apology matter?

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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I'm watching Deadwood for the first time and it was weird seeing Kristen Bell acting all sweet and innocent then true Eleanor came out about midway through the episode she was in

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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double nine posted:

like I said, gruesome death.

Yeah that was an awful death. Her head was caved in, one eye going off to the side, still trying to fight her way out. Plus they were both young kids who didn't realize the full extent of their actions.

I just couldn't stop picturing Eleanor the second Bell's character turned mean though.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Norwegian Rudo posted:

I looked up Sepinwall's Deadwood Rewind to see if he had any pertinent thoughts about her character, but he didn't really.

In the comments Jim Beaver says that the arc was supposed to be significantly longer, but rumour was one of the kids (or more likely their agent) tried to strong-arm the production for more money so they met a swift and brutal end...

That's always my favorite bits of background information for a show. I love when characters disappear for reasons beyond the show storyline.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Squirrely Dan's steak recipe is top notch

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

peope rag on florida and arizona but really, there are a LOT of places in america where the satire elements of this show are not that far off. i say this as a proud american

I've driven through Jacksonville and it's just a big sprawling city. Half of it seems empty or like another city was tacked on to it. Main cities in Florida all seem to follow the same pattern as Beach ---> Waterfront ----> Ghettos ----> Suburbs just like other port cities.

Jacksonville becoming this white trash stereotype full of idiots is great though. It's not just the Good Place doing it either since Ash vs the Evil Dead was obsessed with glorious Jacksonville too.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Gobbeldygook posted:

So a Jainist monk would commend him for his consumption of lentils but condemn him for eating radishes.

I was thinking that he was killing those radishes by pulling them up

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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I love everyone in this cast so much

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Rarity posted:

itt a lot of goons overrationalise the fact that The Good Place just has ridiculously high standards

Yeah also overrationalizing the bad place punishments considering it's all silly tongue in cheek jokes

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Koalas March posted:

Bringing up Leslie Knope just reminded me that if they share a universe, Jerry died and is in hell lmao

That is the ultimate Jerry twist of fate. Spends his whole life being great and nice to everyone he meets then ends up in hell due to weird good place rules.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Knowing Jerry he'd get some kind of dark age version of Hell with scourges and boiling oceans of oil

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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I mean the show pretty much says the fake good place is a one off experiment from Michael and everything else is extreme torture.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

you know, the Jeremy Bearimy episode reads perfectly as a critique of goons devolving into complicated logical slapfights about minutia when there isn't anything new to talk about

It is pretty astounding how much people are trying to search this show for deep meanings when it's just a fun silly take on the afterlife

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

i don't know if i'd take it that far but the Jeremy Bearimy thing is definitely a pretty good indictment of nerd culture

I mean look at the post above yours.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Jeremy Bearimy was literally a joke written by a writer who was tired of the over-complicated nonsense Mike Schur was coming up with to explain time differences. There is no sense to it because not even the writers can make sense of what Schur is trying to say.

The answer to how time works on The Good Place is it's a comedy show, just go with the jokes.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Who let /r/athiesm leak?

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Ishamael posted:

The AV Club has a really weird take on this last episode that isn't in line with the way I read it at all:


I didn't get the impression at all that Michael was lying about his epiphany, or that we are supposed to be suspicious of the discoveries he has made. I know it's the AV Club's job to overthink and overanalyze even the most basic of TV shows, but am I alone here? Did anyone else get the impression that Michael is not being truthful about the discoveries they just made about the point system?

The AV club is terrible and has been for a while but that's a fun idea that Michael is still holding on to cards. I never trusted his sudden switch to being a good guy either.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Chidi dated Simone for like one episode he really over-reacted to the ex thing.

ashpanash posted:

Dwight Schrute.

Dwight somehow is living a perfect life and will most likely end up in the Good Place despite the system being broken

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Kristen Bell is arguably twice the starpower as McKean which sucks because McKean has been around forever and is one of the hardest working actors in the business. BCS also doesn't seem to have nearly the impact as Breaking Bad for its actors. Its not like people are knocking down the door for Bob Odenkirk like they are for Bryan Cranston.

Kristen Bell going to this show was a huge win for them. She really could have done anything after Frozen which is telling that no one wants Idina Menzel but that's probably because she's notoriously an awful person to work with.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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A Sometimes Food posted:

I haven't actually seen anything with her in it, so you could be right. I was just responding to someone mentioning rumours of her being hard to work with. Said rumours seem to often if not usually be poo poo rapists make up to cover their buddies or get back at actresses rebuffing them.

Quite the leap because the rumors are that she's a diva that treats her help like poo poo

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Arist posted:

I'm generally pretty hesitant to believe rumors that an actress is "difficult" because that's usually code for "actually gives a poo poo about her performance/the way she's being treated on set." I also haven't heard about any of this Menzel poo poo before right now. But from the variety of sources and stories here it's tough to deny that there's probably at least something to this.

There is a massive, massive difference between giving a poo poo about their performance and how they're treated on set and being a diva. Being famous isn't an excuse for treating people like poo poo and acting like an untouchable god, especially since there's so many famous actors out there that don't act like that despite facing difficulties on set.

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Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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ashpanash posted:

Are you kidding? It's one of the best things to happen to American TV recently. When you have to do 22-24 episodes, you end up stretching too far, delaying stories and payoffs too long, and treading water too often. It's hard on the writers, hard on the actors, hard on the crew. More content solely for the sake of having more content leads to watering down your show, not improving your show.

It's weird that Brooklyn 99 is so funny considering how many episodes they pump out per season.

I agree though a good amount of episodes for a season is 10-13ish.

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