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TMM keeps voting for and casing the people who I have the strongest town reads on. Either 3P or maybe just having a bit of a rough one.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 12:22 |
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Happy to vote BK whenever but also if anyone wants to keep discussing stuff I’m good for it.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 12:36 |
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Asphyxious posted:TMM keeps voting for and casing the people who I have the strongest town reads on. Either 3P or maybe just having a bit of a rough one. Or I'm right and you guys are the actual scum conning everyone.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:28 |
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And since it's not going to be anyone else, we might as well just get this done now. ##vote BK He's at -1 now.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:30 |
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TMMadman posted:Or I'm right and you guys are the actual scum conning everyone.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:30 |
TMMadman posted:And since it's not going to be anyone else, we might as well just get this done now. How about wait? MMT brought up some interesting points, and asked you a question.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:49 |
Murmur Twin posted:TMM: in a hypothetical world where BK is dayvigged right now, flips scum, and this game day continues, who would your strongest suspect be?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:50 |
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Murmur Twin posted:TMM: in a hypothetical world where BK is dayvigged right now, flips scum, and this game day continues, who would your strongest suspect be? Why is this even a question? You quoted me saying that if BK flips scum then I'm going to be incredibly suspect of both you and Gaspy.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:51 |
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Max posted:How about wait? MMT brought up some interesting points, and asked you a question. Yeah, and she quoted me saying that if BK flips scum then I think MMT/Gaspy are scum with him. So again, I don't know why she is bothering to ask the question when she already quoted the answer.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:52 |
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##unvote Don't want to hammer just yet before I get a chance to digest what happened while I was gone yesterday and post about it. Still gonna vote Beek though before deadline.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:54 |
TMM my issue with your reasoning is that it all looks at MMT's voting patterns without actually looking at her reasoning. Do you have a problem with her IS case? And how do you feel about IS today?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:57 |
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Max posted:TMM my issue with your reasoning is that it all looks at MMT's voting patterns without actually looking at her reasoning. Do you have a problem with her IS case? And how do you feel about IS today? Max, why don't you go look at how MMT voted for BK and then dropped it with absolutely no fanfare before moving to Solus, then IS and then hammering IP. Do you really want to tell me that it doesn't look bad for her, regardless of her content, if BK flips scum?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:58 |
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And as I said, the only brief passing mention of BK, is when she somewhat gives him cover when Asiina wanted to go back to discussing BK.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 13:59 |
TMMadman posted:Just a reminder to people. Bif and MMT were the first two votes on BK and then backed off of him to vote IP and IS respectively, although MMT ended up hammering IP. Murmur Twin posted:Haha there are people - and I'm not going to name names - who sometimes, as town, get overconfident in their early cases and develop tunnel vision where they start to see everything someone does as scummy. I know you pointed this quote out earlier as a reason to find her suspicious, but do you disagree with her?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:01 |
TMMadman posted:Max, why don't you go look at how MMT voted for BK and then dropped it with absolutely no fanfare before moving to Solus, then IS and then hammering IP. Yes I'm reading your posts and MMT's posts to make this point. I don't disagree with her since I personally make super thin cases as town on day 1 all the time just to get things moving along, until a better case develops. That's what I figured BK was doing and it's definitely what I think MMT did. I think BK flipping is going to look bad for a lot of people. You, me and KB came out for him during the bif/bk fight, people moved off of him or defended Bif instead of BK, and you came out today coming up with theories soft selling the idea to not lunch him. What are your thoughts on IS?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:04 |
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Max posted:I know you pointed this quote out earlier as a reason to find her suspicious, but do you disagree with her? It doesn't matter whether I disagree or agree with her. The point is that she is providing cover for BK after Asiina (who has flipped town) wanted to bring the discussion back to looking at BK. And remember, this is MMTs reason for voting BK: Murmur Twin posted:(phoneposting until further notice) So MMT felt like BK was faking his case, but then a short time later decides that he was just being overconfident and tunneling? That is fake.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:04 |
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Also, I'd like to point out that once again, Max dodges a question that I've directly asked him. That's the 3rd time now Max.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:05 |
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TMMadman posted:Max, why don't you go look at how MMT voted for BK and then dropped it with absolutely no fanfare before moving to Solus, then IS and then hammering IP. Are you saying that getting a read wrong / being unsure of who the scum is on D1 makes me look scummier than the person who literally hasn't cased anyone?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:05 |
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I don't care about IS right now.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:06 |
Which question did I dodge?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:06 |
TMMadman posted:I don't care about IS right now. OK!
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:06 |
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Max posted:Which question did I dodge? You answered it with your next post. I thought you were dodging it.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:07 |
Mmm
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:08 |
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Murmur Twin posted:Are you saying that getting a read wrong / being unsure of who the scum is on D1 makes me look scummier than the person who literally hasn't cased anyone? IS hardly ever makes real cases as far as I can remember. Sometimes he scum, sometimes he's town. It's a null tell for me. And I am not saying you were wrong, I am saying that you gave a light bus to a scummate and then moved your vote. So yes, you would be scummier than someone who hasn't case anyone.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:08 |
So TMM, IS was one of two people that could have been lunched yesterday. I had to prod you to get you to say anything about the two main candidates 30 minutes before deadline for you to say that you thought both were probably town. Why did it take that long for you to express that, and why didn't you push a different case if those were your feelings?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:09 |
TMMadman posted:IS hardly ever makes real cases as far as I can remember. Sometimes he scum, sometimes he's town. It's a null tell for me. OK, I'm calling this out now that you've invoked IS's meta. Is this MMT's scum game yes or no?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:10 |
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Max posted:So TMM, IS was one of two people that could have been lunched yesterday. I had to prod you to get you to say anything about the two main candidates 30 minutes before deadline for you to say that you thought both were probably town. Why did it take that long for you to express that, and why didn't you push a different case if those were your feelings? Because I didn't care about IS yesterday either. I directly told you yesterday that I wasn't feeling either of the lynches yesterday.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:11 |
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Gaspy/Max/MMT/BK are the scum in this game. Book it. Look at how much coordinated pushback I'm receiving because I think one of them is scum. I'm getting it from all three of them telling me I'm wrong.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:12 |
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TMMadman posted:Because I didn't care about IS yesterday either. What does "doesn't care" mean?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:12 |
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Murmur Twin posted:What does "doesn't care" mean? I believe he was just being used as an easy lynch target because he's often a bit lurky and comes across as awkward and scummy on D1.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:14 |
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Okay so! Beek is scum, or at the very least, scummy enough that voting for anyone else would be madness. Bif I'm 95% sure is town, mostly because of her reaction to my awful rolefish. MMT comes across as townie, for several reasons: 1. She's got a consistent case on IS, and 2. Called me out early on for my odd behavior and bad-at-scumhunting. I will admit I haven't had the time to beetpost in this game quite as much as I wanted to (plus, I had thought D1 was going to last another 12-24 hours from modpost, and then it only got extended two after I went to bed). Gaspy I can never get a read on. Mostly because I'm always watching him for some stupid good gambit, the only way I'd really trust a scumread on him from myself is if there's night action results (lol, cop) or if he's caught in a lie. Does look townie for this specific post: Asphyxious posted:Check out Solus’ posts today for a bumper crop of no reads and tangents as well. He's not wrong. I have been bad at posting this game and not up to my usual standard. Max seems town basically because of his pursuit of TMM (and calling me out on occasion): TMM has been full of bad/wrong opinions this whole game, and is who I'd shoot if I was given a gun. He's never quite jumped off of the 'Bif Is Scum' train of thought, and I'm certain enough that Bif is not. He's also TMMadman posted:Do not like this post Very TMMadman posted:We have plenty of time before the deadline, so it's always worth going down the 'what if' hole. Invested TMMadman posted:The mimic/disguise thing could be a day action. In TMMadman posted:Just a reminder to people. Bif and MMT were the first two votes on BK and then backed off of him to vote IP and IS respectively, although MMT ended up hammering IP. What-Ifs. Which is the only way that could even give Beek a chance of getting out of being lynched today! TMMadman posted:So if BK does flip scum, I do think MMT looks pretty bad. So people might want to be careful about giving her the 1 shot power. No, friend, you'd be much more likely to flip scum than MMT in that case. Your damage control is a little late. You also didn't bother to vote to assist Bif! It's like you want to leave open the door of accusing Bif as scum. IS I'll re-read so as to not make a long post even longer.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:14 |
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TMMadman posted:I believe he was just being used as an easy lynch target because he's often a bit lurky and comes across as awkward and scummy on D1. OK, one last question and then I'm good: IllegallySober posted:This is the only substantive post by MMT I can find: What is your opinion of this quote from IS, and why is it that you don't care about it?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:17 |
TMMadman posted:Gaspy/Max/MMT/BK are the scum in this game. You're getting pushback from me because I disagree with your reasoning.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:19 |
AlsoMax posted:OK, I'm calling this out now that you've invoked IS's meta.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:19 |
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I still just can't believe I cooled down from a big slapfight long before you guysSolusLunes posted:Bif I'm 95% sure is town, mostly because of her reaction to my awful rolefish. wait so it really was just a rolefish? the gently caress dude
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:23 |
Is this a slapfight in your eyes?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:24 |
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SolusLunes posted:##unvote bottleshop!
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:24 |
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TMMadman posted:Gaspy/Max/MMT/BK are the scum in this game. or they're all town telling you you're wrong. like, how would you even prove the difference?
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:30 |
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Max posted:Is this a slapfight in your eyes? More of a donnybrook to me I still don’t like IS, but TMM is moving up my list Also I need to look at how MMT got that reward so fast. Weird that Max seemed to be waiting for her and then she showed up moments later
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:31 |
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I agree that MMT backing off the BK vote D1 is not necessarily scummy - it felt like a lot of people thought BK was pushing suspiciously hard on Bif, and so when the two of them came to an understanding a lot of the rationale for the vote evaporated. I lean town on her, and clearly not alone based on how quickly that search vote went. As for BK - yes, there's an umpteen number of exculpatory what-ifs, especially considering the exotic rules and powers of Shine. We'll have to wait for the flip to see if TMM is arguing in good or bad faith (though I guess its possible he's a patsy in the latter case,) but I maintain my original point: either we lynch scum, or we determine that watcher reports etc cant be trusted entirely.
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# ? Oct 5, 2018 14:31 |