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omg omg omg sign me up I will get more Suntory Whiskey
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opening this at 4:30am GMT is a bit rude though imo 
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Sep 29, 2018 04:54
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Podima posted:
who cares about him, what's Arnold up to
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Oct 1, 2018 02:39
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I DEMAND MORE LORE
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Oct 1, 2018 02:46
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##vote LJ Hooker, the real enemy
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Oct 1, 2018 03:40
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TMMadman posted:But you clearly are jeez, the "if KB is still alive by now he's gotta be scum" deadline has gone a bit too far imo
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Oct 1, 2018 04:37
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"Ha!" a boorish laugh rang out from behind Jaspy and Beet. Adrien sidled over and tipped her hat to the other early riser. "You probably shouldn't get too friendly with these two, ma'am. They're troublemakers. Rabble-rousers. Always starting up or getting into the worst drunken brawls imaginable! But whatever incident it is they don't feel like talking to you about, rest assured I had nothing to do with it." "...this time." she added under her breath with a smirk.
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Oct 1, 2018 09:37
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morning all looks like Australians are winning jokephase so far, noice. let's try and lock it in ##vote MT I am quite concerned by her lack of engagement in our roleplaying session
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Oct 1, 2018 20:28
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whoah that was good ok guys we have to no-lunch, and scum you gotta withhold the NK so we get as much votefinder storytime as possible
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Oct 1, 2018 20:40
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TMMadman posted:Beetholomew is a strange name for a lady omfg I was about to post that down to the exact word
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Oct 1, 2018 22:36
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Murmur Twin posted:Haha I read it while I was at work which wasn't enough time for me to write anything - I kept getting tripped up on you referring to me as "ma'am" even though my character is male and was going to riff off of that, but "on my phone and in 20 minute increments" isn't really my style. And then I got home and people were mafia'ing already. that works for now! ##unvote lol about the "ma'am" thing, sorry bout that
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Oct 1, 2018 23:00
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IcePhoenix posted:I agree with Asiina and am willing to put my vote where my post is. Plus what they did to beet was just mean. Also, gently caress the Cubs got enough reasons there, bud? I like Asiina sussing this out and might vote TMM later, but if it turns out to be wrong this is where I'd look first for scum trying to get things rolling.
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Oct 2, 2018 02:15
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BottleKnight posted:##vote bif yeah well you read bad  I think Asiina sounds like she's "sussing out" what she thinks of TMM, which implies that despite being sure she wants to vote him, she does not in fact actually know his alignment. This looks townie of her, regardless of whether it ends up right or wrong. I'm not convinced yet that it's worth a vote yet myself. While I see why TMM reads as weird to her, I also find it a bit unlikely that a scum would come out swinging that fast with such blatant gambler's fallacy nonsense to make themselves look that silly. If nothing else comes up though, it'd certainly be good enough for D1. And if that is what happens, and it turns out TMM is town, I think that vote of IP's does sound a bit overwrought, like scum trying to get a bandwagom rolling. The "chain lunch" you are assuming for me would depend on a lot of factors between now and then: the TMM lunch happening, him being town, IP not sounding any townier by then, nothing else grabbing me more by then, etc. I would certainly want to NOT pursue this further if he comes up scum. But nice try. oh and you just keep on going for a few more posts, don't you. yeah this is bad. ##vote BK
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Oct 2, 2018 03:09
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btw if anyone doesn't know what an Australianism like "sussing out" means, it's ok to admit it and ask for a translation jsyk
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Oct 2, 2018 03:12
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BottleKnight posted:It reads to me as a scum saying “I might join this case, but only later, to make it clear that if it’s a mislynch it was NOT my fault!” also lol at the idea of me giving a poo poo about clean hands
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Oct 2, 2018 03:14
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King Burgundy posted:So to be clear, you think he is scum fabricating things? Or you just think he's wrong/bad? it feels like scum bullshit, like he's already made up his mind he's going to read everything in the most unfavourable way possible to create a case, and transform a note for later into a whole narrative about chain lunches.
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Oct 2, 2018 03:18
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Asphyxious posted:I feel like I’m going to have to sit down and break down that bif post later as I kept getting headspins trying to read through it. I don't see what's hard to follow BK wants to know what I thought about TMM, now I have told him. I like Asiina's effort to case him, but don't agree with the case yet. IP's vote sounds a bit much, like he's trying to overexplain why he's joining in. But hey, for all I know IP just agrees with Asiina in a legit way, and TMM could even be scum. So I sure don't feel like voting IP yet either. But if TMM got lunched off this and flipped town, that IP post would be where I start looking back. Not "IP is definite scum now, chain lunch time", it is something I would want to remember to look back at and assess to see if he looks the scummiest out of whoever voted him. A lot of other more substantial things could come up by the end of D1 too, that might take precedence! So when I said "this is where I'd look first for scum" I meant precisely and exactly what I actually said. It is a note to self, or for others to notice on their rereads if I am gone on D2.
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Oct 2, 2018 03:28
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Hal Incandenza posted:I dunno that defense from bif seems a little TOO defensive oh god let's please don't replay Culture Mafia
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Oct 2, 2018 03:30
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ok lunch over, but Gaspy I would like you to spell out for me precisely what bits are confusing you.
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Oct 2, 2018 03:33
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Hal Incandenza posted:Was I in that? Did I accuse you of being defensive? Was I wrong? omfg
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Oct 2, 2018 03:35
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wtf Gaspy, what do you mean you wouldn't use "sussing out" there, Bifauxnen posted:got enough reasons there, bud? Asphyxious posted:This confused me as I don’t think I’d use “sussing out” to mean this at all. “Sussing out” would be more if Asiina was uncertain of anything/everything, whereas she actually seems pretty certain already. Asiina is casing TMM and poking him and voting him. She is playing Mafia, by trying to suss out his alignment. Just because you think no one should be described as "sussing out" a specific thing, that it can only describe someone completely uncertain in general, don't go projecting something I didn't mean. Or habe I totally learned this wrong as a former Yank? Is "sussing out" as a phrase never actually used in such a way, to suss out a particular fact instead of just being generally confused? I will hold you to your linguistic integrity.
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Oct 2, 2018 04:35
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ugh Gaspy's style of response was annoying to quote but it was a lot more convenient to read, so I'm gonna copy it here. BottleKnight posted:Okay, so your definition of sussing someone out is just casing them? Casing someone while not... being too sure, as to imply they might already know someone's alignment? Pretty much, I got the impression Asiina was playing the exact same type of town play I've seen her do in several games recently. She's working things out and actively pressing on things, and the fact that I described this townie casing behaviour as "sussing out" and that word choice is somehow perceived as scummy kind of irks me.
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Oct 2, 2018 04:53
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BottleKnight posted:I legitimately still don't know what you think of TMM! It sounds like you have a pretty towny read on him but would still be comfortable voting for him if it came to that?? like, you say you find him unlikely to be scum, but you find asiina towny because you find her case genuine. so then... maybe both of them could be town? but still, the TMM vote is "good enough" for D1?? I just don't get it! you just described it perfectly so why are you acting so loving confused
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Oct 2, 2018 04:54
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BottleKnight posted:Bif, if this really just is semantics and that's all you meant, that's fine, in which case the hedging is still bad! well until we started going at it, Asiina's case was literally the only thing going. It's still quite early on D1. I don't buy the case yet, so I was hoping something better would come along to bite into. But I think the case was made in good faith, so I wouldn't mind supporting Asiina in voting TMM if I could not in fact find something better. This whole thing here is certainly a lot meatier now though.
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Oct 2, 2018 05:12
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BottleKnight posted:Because your original statement does not align with your new one! this is why I think you're scum, btw. Maybe if you keep saying that enough times, people will just not bother reading all the quoteblocks, and decide this is true.
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Oct 2, 2018 05:25
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IcePhoenix posted:Bif the only way I could have justified that vote any less would be to just vote without giving any reasoning and then you'd be casing me for that instead uh huh jeez I'm not even actually casing you yet
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Oct 2, 2018 06:18
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Social Studies 3rd Period posted:with the concept of chain-lynching brought up, I assume via context that's the idea of a vote (duh) and then going off ('chaining') the results/flip against those who voted? I've looked around for the term a little but could only find it being used / not an exact definition, and it's not a term I'm exactly familiar with. sounds like you got it right. More strictly speaking, a chain-lunch is someone saying "if Person X flips a certain way, we should lunch Person Y next." You may note that my post is a very far cry from this, but BK has shifted the goalposts and stopped mentioning chain-lunching entirely. And instead of pausing to reflect on just how much he's read into my post all by himself, he's staying the course all: "well you are still hedging and that's bad"
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Oct 2, 2018 06:32
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nah thanks Beet I was about to be deeply disturbed that you were the one who understood me
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Oct 2, 2018 07:00
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anyway, the world makes sense again now except I still don't know how can you read me saying "ok you wanna know what I think of TMM, here is what I think of TMM", then him going "but wait?? It sounds like you're saying (insert exactly what I just said) but I still don't know what you think about TMM?? I'm so confused??" and not think that's faking content, I didn't even do the double question marks for hyperbole, his post is literally like that
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Oct 2, 2018 07:35
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sweet I was wondering when you'd have time to chime in, MT! uh, just to correct you though, I never did in fact vote for TMM. I did vote for MMT for a bit though
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Oct 2, 2018 09:17
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well let's see what BK's saying by the time I wake up, but the way he was replying sure didn't make me feel any more charitable. I didn't give my thoughts on TMM in my first post cause at the time I was reacting more to IP, making that mental note about him and putting it out there to needle him a little bit. But when BK was all concerned that it didn't divulge enough of my thoughts about TMM, I made that clear for him... only for him to insist I just still made no sense. Even though he was recapping it like he'd understood perfectly.
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Oct 2, 2018 13:29
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Asphyxious posted:We were having such a chill time things are still chill imo, can't be unchill while looking at that many thunk faces
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Oct 2, 2018 13:58
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TMMadman posted:And from that point, bif seems to turn it more into a conversation about semantics than about alignment calls. I "turned it into" a discussion about semantics because BK literally called it weird for me to have used the words I did. I'll be looking forward to seeing his reaction to Asiina herself calling my description of her accurate. TMMadman posted:Now come on, who is seriously going to look at that Bif post and blame BK for putting dropping a vote there? BK didn't just drop a vote. He called my post "setting up your basically-a-chain-Lynch". He is pushing a whole lot of projected meaning into me going "hmm, I gotta remember this thing here just in case"
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Oct 2, 2018 14:23
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TMMadman posted:Alright then, tell me where in those posts that Bif told BK what she thinks of me? uh here in my very first reply to BK Bifauxnen posted:I'm not convinced yet that it's worth a vote yet myself. While I see why TMM reads as weird to her, I also find it a bit unlikely that a scum would come out swinging that fast with such blatant gambler's fallacy nonsense to make themselves look that silly. If nothing else comes up though, it'd certainly be good enough for D1. you just quoted it
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Oct 2, 2018 14:30
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sometimes I think Mafia isn't really about casing, it's about letting out all your aggression into punishing people for not interpreting reality the way you do
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Oct 2, 2018 14:36
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SolusLunes posted:I mean, that works though it did in Shine IV but not so much in Shine V
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Oct 2, 2018 14:39
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TMMadman posted:Also I'll go ahead and ##vote bif I disagree that this post is TMM giving an opinion or vote on me. It is actually him scumclaiming. Can you believe how scummy that is?
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Oct 2, 2018 14:53
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TMMadman posted:I don't see this as true at all. Seriously, it sounds like you're complaining because BK has 3 reasons why he thought bif was worth a vote. for someone who wants to defend the idea of BK having so many reasons, you didn't even say "sussing" once in this post! ok ok I'm going back to sleep
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Oct 2, 2018 17:47
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Solus is like my new favourite mafia player rn  this deadline seems ok, but I wouldn't mind the extension. I was kind of pushing it yesterday spending too much time arguing when I had a lot of work to do, so I might have a hard time being around for this deadline. And it'd be nice to have more time to get more reactions to all this stuff on the record. If the BK vote doesn't get any farther, I would vote IP next. I didn't like that post either, where he came back to explain how his overly joke-justified joke was very UNjustified, actually! I'd be ok with voting TMM too, but... that kind of absolutely maddening "I see you plainly quoting something, but will straight up deny to your face you even said what you said" reaction is unfortunately all too often town, in my experience. BK's reactions to me, while equally maddening, seem a lot more like he's actually pushing an agenda while TMM just feels stubborn as hell. So before him I'd rather vote a lurker like Hum or IS. I am still concerned about MT, and wanted to prod her a bit since I know if she's scum she'll want to be out of her misery as quickly as possible. But I also know her being very busy irl right now is legit, so I'd like to give her more time to gather her thoughts for some D2 posting, at least.
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SolusLunes posted:
I'm sorry! but I cannot contain my feelings, I must tell the world
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Oct 2, 2018 21:29
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now I'm gonna be the one lynched D1