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Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




I like having crew to nurture though. It's one of the ways X games make you feel like you're progressing, and it gives you 'human beings' to care about in a game that's otherwise rather low on friendly relationships. That's not to say it couldn't be done much better, I just don't want it ripped right out.

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Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Is there a way to stop the computer continually telling me the names of things?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




I played all previous X games and I would like spoken target names! If only my ship didn't insist on targeting every single civilian ship around. I am trying to scan this station, I've chosen to target the drat station, and my computer proudly announces it is targeting an insignificant civilian ship instead, every two bloody seconds.

What with not being able to land and not finding anything I want on the map and continually being told about Tour Bus A, I keep bouncing off this game hard

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Oh dear me posted:

Is there a way to stop the computer continually telling me the names of things?

Aha. The answer to this is really "Stop playing with your gamepad, steering with it cancels your target lock".

Being able to use my gamepad was the one good thing about X:Rebirth

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




OwlFancier posted:

I would have thought there should be a toggle somewhere for that, kinda weird behaviour given half the point of target lock is to help you locate things when they go outside your field of view..?

Turning gamepad mode off does the trick. A bit counterintuitive to me, but I didn't know what it was supposed to do anyway.

Game suddenly much more bearable, maybe I can play it long enough to afford a docking computer after all.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Are seminars still useless?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Darkhold posted:

Only person I've seen gain rank beyond two stars in piloting is my relief pilot in my main ship that seems to get some when I order him around and fight.

My pilot in my fighter ship went up to five stars pretty quickly, and I wasn't asking her to do much beyond explore and open lockboxes for me. Maybe successful hits are important?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




I have bounced off X4 many times just because I struggled so much with the controls, but I have finally bought a HOTAS and oh! the difference. I am really enjoying this now I can actually shoot things.

So: are the map sectors actually joined up, or do the cells only have a few defined exit points? I mean, if I am in Trinity Sanctum for example and just fly south east, will I ever reach Hewa's Twin?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Sillybones posted:

How do I get 3 star pilots? I have been playing for 10's of hours and no one has levelled up beyond 2.

I think asking pilots to open lockboxes helps level them up, but they probably need a ship that can withstand the occasional explosion.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




What are all the little squares?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




My biggest dissatisfaction is not being able to get a warning of approaching enemies if I'm not flying myself. I can't see the radar, so I only get visual warning by looking at the map. The pilot will only ask me what to do after they've been attacked, and if I'm looking at the map I have to get out of it quickly to answer them in time, but I need to use the map to see what the enemy is. I wish pilots could just say 'Enemy spotted!' or some such.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




What is the general advice about illegal crafting items? I have just got various faction licences and don't want to have to get them again, so I've been ditching illegal items asap. But should I hang on to any, and if so is there a way to do so safely?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




timn posted:

So much of the game is designed for m+kb that even dogfighting is easier because the fastest and easiest way to target stuff is by clicking on it with the mouse.

I'm sure that's true for many people, and it was for me in X3, but in X4 I really struggled before I got my HOTAS. After the switch to using a mouse button for context menus, I never found a control scheme that was easy to use. But I use a trackball and am not dextrous, so I may be in a tiny minority.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Annath posted:

I've never played any of those other games

E: also, will I be gimped playing with a controller?

I have, but I like X4 much more. If flying around 1st person in a spaceship appeals, this is a good game to do it in.

As for the controller - I found it fine for normal flying around, but had problems aiming and changing speed in combat. Aiming was much easier if I used the mouse instead but because of the speed controls it was still very hard for me to keep on an enemy's tail, for example, until I got a HOTAS. But my controller was cheap and I suck at all game tasks requiring dexterity, so YMMV.

Whatever controller you have you will also need to use mouse and keyboard, there's just too much for a controller to handle.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




How does Explore differ from Fly [to place] and wait? My pilots don't seem to move at all once there.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Antigravitas posted:

Re: explore, you can set a radius for them to uncover. The default may be a little small.

Oh! Thanks for that, I have made progress!

E: ^^^ right-click your ship, select Information, click the Behaviours button and then expand Explore, you'll see the Radius option.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




I can't do lockboxes at all, and it does indeed suck.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Rime posted:

Nah, X has never played nice with a HOTAS setup, mouse and keyboard is the way to go.

Fine for most things, but dogfighting is so much easier with a HOTAS.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




I hate cockpits obscuring my vision. I swear I've got rid of them before now but maybe I'm thinking of Rebirth. (I know about hiding the HUD, but I mind that less anyway.)

Which ships would people recommend for cockpit-haters?

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




OwlFancier posted:

Press CTRL and H. Shift H hides the hud.

Wtf, I tried that a dozen times yesterday. But today it works, so thank you very much x

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




zedprime posted:

travel drive is superior in every way to SETA or jump drives

No way, jump drives were much faster. I'd really like a 'Wake me up when we arrive' command for my pilot, to fast forward over long trips.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




shalcar posted:

Now that you can teleport there really isn't any reason to go on long trips in person, just send a ship ahead while you play the game and then zip over there when it arrives.

But the early game exists.

I'm not convinced miraculous teleportation is in any way a better solution than jump drives, but I think a 'Wake me up when we get there' pilot command would make the game more accessible for new, less dedicated players, as well.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Ice Fist posted:

Am I on the right track here? Should I just say gently caress it right now and add in the mods to make training easier? Or should I save up, buy the katana I want, do the story and wait for the game to open up a bit more.

I know everyone says get the mods, but I think you're still at the stage where it's satisfying to get the training in vanilla. You can buy low level pilot training manuals from traders and then there are often missions for higher ones. It doesn't actually take that long to get advanced automining pilots.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




chglcu posted:

I also consider the walking portions of X4 to be completely unnecessary for what makes an X game fun for me and a total waste of time.

Strongly agreed, and I think it has got worse than Rebirth, in that at least there were reasons to do it in Rebirth, such as needing to play the (terrible) talk minigame with people, or find some station vent to crawl though in search of stuff. I'm not at all sorry those things have gone, please note, but if a game is going to make me walk through identical doors countless thousands of times, I feel there should be something different behind them occasionally.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




madfury posted:

I need to vent tho - Feet combat is still broken which is supposed to be the endgame fight part.

drat, I've been using my hands this whole time

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Ice Fist posted:

if he wanted to go next door in the asteroid belt and have some fun I have like 60 miners in there at any given time.

Oh wow, to think I worried that I might be exhausting its reserves

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Galaga Galaxian posted:

Well then someone tell me how to get started cause I'm struggling to scrape up some starting cash. Is crystal mining pretty much it? I can't find many missions and the ones I do are poo poo like prospecting missions

Never do prospecting missions. At the start I do a few Help me get off this station missions, which you get from the sparkling anomalies on stations (not the red blob type). Of regular missions, destroying mines is easy money, and repair satellites missions aren't too bad - there is the whole spacesuit palaver, which I agree is ridiculous and annoying, but there is at least a good bug that often makes repairing one satellite repair them all.

I see other people recommend grabbing the free destroyer, but I got blasted to smithereens when I tried that in my starting ship. And it does feel like cheating. Once I had passive income from miners, so it was just the same as waiting a few hours, I felt better about it.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




Is there a way I'm missing to order an NPC pilot of the ship I'm in to follow the yellow brick guidance line?

I realize I can usually right-click near the final destination, but a) not always and b) if 'near' isn't good enough I still have to go through the whole 'click to use seat, wait for the pilot to get out of my way, click to use seat again' palaver, to avoid which is the whole reason I might want to issue an order rather than using autopilot.

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Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012




buglord posted:

I guess all in all, I want to know what I can do to speed up/bypass crystal mining because this is becoming unfun.

To get money early game I mostly do escort missions available from the transmissions on stations. Get up close to the sparkle so you can hear, and if they're asking for help it's an escort mission - the others aren't worth bothering with. Check your mission offers too as occasionally a lucrative satellite repair/mine clearance mission comes up. Pour all funds into miners until you're happy with your base income.

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