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I'm re-reading the "American Scream" arc of Shade this month, to commemorate the spookiness of Halloween, and also the fact that the area of madness is clearly infecting America lately. Might also re-read hellblazer later in the month lik,e Skwirl, as I haven't done my annual re-read for 2018 yet.
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I'm re-reading Transmet for the first time in ages. It's kind of amazing/sad how prescient it is, and yet how far off the mark it is at the same time. The Beast could be a Trump like character but he had a modicum of care beyond himself, even though it was pitifully low, and the Smiler is closer to a Romney then Trump. I guess Heller would be close to Trump in rhetoric, but he was a footnote character. I know this is a book written in the 90s so it would be nearly impossible to have ever thought someone like Trump could one day become president riding on fascistic tendencies, but I am kind of amazed at some other things the book managed to tackle. I guess some issues are forever there, just with a new paint job to make it look different.
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Oct 7, 2018 21:06
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The Beast was Nixon and the Smiler was Reagan
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Oct 7, 2018 21:54
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Everyone sees what they want to see. To me, The Smiler was Tony Blair, no question.
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Oct 7, 2018 22:18
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Sentinel Red posted:Everyone sees what they want to see. To me, The Smiler was Tony Blair, no question. Ellis has said that he gets people comparing Smiler to virtually every major political figure that has been in the US and UK since he wrote him.
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Oct 7, 2018 22:53
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I always assumed The Smiler was based off JFK (if JFK was evil, he is the one who started the Vietnam war), and then we all saw reflections of him in everything.
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Oct 7, 2018 23:11
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I'm proud of my New York Comic Con cosplay for this year. https://twitter.com/Gavin4L/status/1048979564230266880
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Oct 8, 2018 06:39
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Fake butt 2/10.
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Oct 8, 2018 06:44
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The Smiler is Tony Blair and The Beast was Thatcher, according to Warren Ellis. The artist obviously made them look Nixon and JFK-esque. You can project a lot onto both of them, though.
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Oct 8, 2018 06:55
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Does Marvel even have 666 villains? Like to hit that number you'd have to go for some ridiculously deep cuts plus deep cuts from other universes plus a bunch of randomly evil versions of heroes. I imagine eventually writers would just be going... "ummm... how about another Dr. Doom... only he's from Earth 1000... his deal is that his cape is orange?"
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Oct 8, 2018 21:07
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TwoPair posted:Does Marvel even have 666 villains? Like to hit that number you'd have to go for some ridiculously deep cuts plus deep cuts from other universes plus a bunch of randomly evil versions of heroes. I imagine eventually writers would just be going... "ummm... how about another Dr. Doom... only he's from Earth 1000... his deal is that his cape is orange?" I would assume the first half of the storyline would be Spidey just wiping the floor with like 85% of them and then being tired and worn out and having to face the one's people actually give a poo poo about. But there's easily 666 villains.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:13
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TwoPair posted:I imagine eventually writers would just be going... "ummm... how about another Dr. Doom... only he's from Earth 1000... his deal is that his cape is orange?" Sounds like someone who'd have a good LOYAL name, like John.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:13
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Skwirl posted:I would assume the first half of the storyline would be Spidey just wiping the floor with like 85% of them and then being tired and worn out and having to face the one's people actually give a poo poo about. But there's easily 666 villains. I'd read a miniseries where every panel was Spider-man beating up a different bad guy every panel, honestly.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:15
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Mr. Maltose posted:I'd read a miniseries where every panel was Spider-man beating up a different bad guy every panel, honestly. Spidey facing 30 different Green Goblin knock-offs before fighting Norman Osborne has to be an actual comic that exists.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:18
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Skwirl posted:Spidey facing 30 different Green Goblin knock-offs before fighting Norman Osborne has to be an actual comic that exists. And if it doesn't, I now want to see "The Goblin's Gauntlet".
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Oct 8, 2018 21:25
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END ME SCOOB posted:And if it doesn't, I now want to see "The Goblin's Gauntlet". Paging Vulpes Vulpes...
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Oct 8, 2018 21:28
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Now I'm trying to think of all the Green Goblin knockoffs. Hobgoblin obviously, Jack O'Lantern, Demogoblin, that one Green Goblin that was actually a good guy (seriously who does that? I'm not going to fight crime running around calling myself "Charles Manson"), Hemoglobin. I think I'm missing at least one
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Oct 8, 2018 21:30
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Skwirl posted:Now I'm trying to think of all the Green Goblin knockoffs. Hobgoblin obviously, Jack O'Lantern, Demogoblin, that one Green Goblin that was actually a good guy (seriously who does that? I'm not going to fight crime running around calling myself "Charles Manson"), Hemoglobin. I think I'm missing at least one The Goblin Knight was one. And wasn't Harry's gf during the American Son story-arc a Goblin of some sort?
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Oct 8, 2018 21:31
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TwoPair posted:Does Marvel even have 666 villains? Like to hit that number you'd have to go for some ridiculously deep cuts plus deep cuts from other universes plus a bunch of randomly evil versions of heroes. I imagine eventually writers would just be going... "ummm... how about another Dr. Doom... only he's from Earth 1000... his deal is that his cape is orange?" A perfect time for 8-Ball and his full rack to attack!
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Oct 8, 2018 21:35
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pubic works project posted:The Goblin Knight was one. And wasn't Harry's gf during the American Son story-arc a Goblin of some sort? I'm not sure if I'm happy or annoyed you either missed or ignored my joke goblin.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:39
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Skwirl posted:I'm not sure if I'm happy or annoyed you either missed or ignored my joke goblin. I caught it the name, but I'm exhausted today so I totally took it as something serious. I mean poo poo...it wouldn't surprise me if Marvel really had a dude named Hemoglobin.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:40
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pubic works project posted:I caught it the name, but I'm exhausted today so I totally took it as something serious. I mean poo poo...it wouldn't surprise me if Marvel really had a dude named Hemoglobin. It's from an alternate universe where the Carnage suit possesses Norman Osborne.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:42
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Skwirl posted:Now I'm trying to think of all the Green Goblin knockoffs. Hobgoblin obviously, Jack O'Lantern, Demogoblin, that one Green Goblin that was actually a good guy (seriously who does that? I'm not going to fight crime running around calling myself "Charles Manson"), Hemoglobin. I think I'm missing at least one There was Menace back in the Brand New Day era of Spider-Man.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:48
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pubic works project posted:I caught it the name, but I'm exhausted today so I totally took it as something serious. I mean poo poo...it wouldn't surprise me if Marvel really had a dude named Hemoglobin. I thought they literally did? Maybe it was DC edit: It was dC http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Hemo-Goblin_(New_Earth)
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Oct 9, 2018 06:12
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My terrible pun joke character actually exists and was a vampire that gave people AIDS. Jesus wept.
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Oct 9, 2018 06:19
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Skwirl posted:My terrible pun joke character actually exists and was a vampire that gave people AIDS. Jesus wept. Also Carnage Norman Osborn just happened a few months ago.
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Oct 9, 2018 06:22
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Gavok posted:Also Carnage Norman Osborn just happened a few months ago. Wait, seriously? I'm obviously not psychic because all I'm predicting is poo poo that already happened, but if anyone is still in college and has a history quiz feel free to HMU.
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Skwirl posted:Wait, seriously? I'm obviously not psychic because all I'm predicting is poo poo that already happened, but if anyone is still in college and has a history quiz feel free to HMU. Yeah, he was called the Red Goblin and was treated as the final end boss of Dan Slott's Spider-Man run. Eddie Brock even lent the Venom symbiote to Spider-Man to make it an even playing field.
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Oct 9, 2018 06:29
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Dan Slott really is just a 12 year old.
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Oct 9, 2018 06:34
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Gavok posted:Yeah, he was called the Red Goblin and was treated as the final end boss of Dan Slott's Spider-Man run. Eddie Brock even lent the Venom symbiote to Spider-Man to make it an even playing field. A red goblin should have just been called Red Cap.
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Oct 9, 2018 06:52
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Mr. Maltose posted:I'd read a miniseries where every panel was Spider-man beating up a different bad guy every panel, honestly. Wasn't there basically a Marvel Knights Spider-Man one with that premise?
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Oct 9, 2018 18:02
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There was a little (only a little) of that in Amazing #500, where Peter gets unstuck in time when Dormammu invades New York and the only way Dr Strange can get him back as by having him relive every fight of his career.
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Oct 9, 2018 19:43
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One of JMS' better stories.
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I like most of JMS's Spider-Man up to a point. Before Sins Past, but I'm not sure exactly where I fell off.
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Sins Past is what it is but it's not like he stopped writing good issues after that.
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Oct 9, 2018 19:57
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Yeah, his little "New Avengers" arc was a lot of fun.
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Oct 9, 2018 21:27
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I run hot and cold on Spider-Man being an Avenger. I think there's a natural arc to Spider-Man as a character where he would eventually earn the respect and trust of everyone and take over from Captain America as the natural leader of the Avengers but it's one he obviously can't ever reach. I think that's an overly-idealised view that I have.
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So I just finished the Fraction/Brubaker/Duane Immortal Iron Fist stuff — are there any other good, modern-ish Iron Fist runs I should look into?
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Yvonmukluk posted:Wasn't there basically a Marvel Knights Spider-Man one with that premise? Fight Night had a ton of villains. 99 supposedly. Might have to look when I get home.
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omg chael crash posted:So I just finished the Fraction/Brubaker/Duane Immortal Iron Fist stuff � are there any other good, modern-ish Iron Fist runs I should look into? It's not solo Iron Fist, but Bendis's Defenders series was really good.
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