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Baron Corbin posted:i'm going to ask a serious question, don't make fun of me for this. does Fox care about these ratings? Right now Fox think they'll fix it once they're airing it because people will care about the product more when it's on Fox than USA When the quality still sucks and the ratings keep dropping even while on there, it won't be ignored for long at the price they paid for it
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Oct 3, 2018 23:27
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Baron Corbin posted:i'm going to ask a serious question, don't make fun of me for this. does Fox care about these ratings? they will once its actually on their network and still getting the same numbers
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Oct 3, 2018 23:28
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Chris James 2 posted:Right now Fox think they'll fix it once they're airing it because people will care about the product more when it's on Fox than USA so then what happens? do they cancel it like Firefly? do they move it to some lovely network fox owns where it will keep doing the same numbers?
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FOX only bought the thing for that much money because they think it'll do good ratings. Both FOX and WWE will push the hell out of it at first and it'll probably do pretty drat good numbers. WWE will do a bunch of hot matches and angles, then it'll slop down into the same mediocrity as everything else. Baron Corbin posted:so then what happens? do they cancel it like Firefly? do they move it to some lovely network fox owns where it will keep doing the same numbers? If the ratings suck, they'll probably dump it on FS1.
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Baron Corbin posted:so then what happens? do they cancel it like Firefly? do they move it to some lovely network fox owns where it will keep doing the same numbers? Dumped to FS1 after a year
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Oct 3, 2018 23:40
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I'm sorry I just got a memo in from the Highest Office in the Land and it turns out WWE is 'too big to fail'.
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Oct 3, 2018 23:48
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So what's Vince's plan in ten years? Fifteen years? When all the old-timers and legends are too broke and old to be able to come back?
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jesus WEP posted:R Truth and Carmella continue to be the best thing on either show, of course I agree
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Vandar posted:So what's Vince's plan in ten years? Fifteen years? When all the old-timers and legends are too broke and old to be able to come back? WWE's longterm plan is that people will go "Yeah, I'm fine with giving WWE $10 a month" and they will able to tell networks "Look at all your dead shows, we will give you 52 weeks of ratings way better than what you currently have" like they have since the Network came out.
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Well the thing about Vince's generation is they're going to die soon so none of them give a gently caress about fifteen years from now.
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In interesting world news a Saudi woman just lost a legal battle to marry the man of her choice. He was deemed religiously unfit because he plays a musical instrument. Such a progressive place. Can't wait for Crown Jewel!
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People would make jokes the ten year plan is Roman in the main. But we have Shawn and Undertaker and Rock coattails 20 years on. If all things do go to plan it will be 20 years of Roman. We're past 15 years of Randy.
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Oct 4, 2018 00:20
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Vandar posted:So what's Vince's plan in ten years? Fifteen years? When all the old-timers and legends are too broke and old to be able to come back? Vince's plan for fifteen years from now is to have been dead for ten years.
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I was reading the ESPN Oral History of Collision in Korea, the 1995 show where 190,000 people watched Flair vs Inoki against their will and also Scott Norton was almost murdered in a basement. It reminded me of Crown Jewel. Can't wait 15 years for the oral history of that.
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VJeff posted:Vince's plan for fifteen years from now is to have been dead for ten years. Your mistake is thinking that Vince is going to ever die.
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Vandar posted:When all the old-timers and legends are too broke and old to be able to come back? lol you think this will ever happen Like, even putting aside that a Raw just ended with Shawn, HHH, Taker, and Kane in the same ring, an upcoming SD (admittedly an anniversary episode) is being hyped with the return of the Evolution stable, including the return of Batista in the process. Batista is a return nostalgia pop. We don't even need to look at SD for some of those, the all-women PPV is going to have return nostalgia pops Lita and Trish. Every week you see return nostalgia pop (slash TV show stars pop) The Bellas You simply aren't going to see the end of legends or part-timers. You'll just see different generations of stars refuse to let go or avoid coming back long enough that they'll be the new part-timers for fans in another decade
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Oct 4, 2018 00:59
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Shawn's still gonna need money in 20 years, he'll be in the main event of WM 50
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I think that WWE provides content for FOX and as long as it does decent ratings in its expected timeslot, FOX will be happy and WWE will be able to whatever it wants with the product as a result. If ratings continue to slip, they can always put it on a Fox Affiliated channel. As a thought, when will we consider John Cena and Randy Orton legends that we'll keep bringing back to WWE like we do for HBF and Taker?
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Still blows my mind that John Cena learned mandarin for this company
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Cena's already at the part-timer stage. Orton was getting there but is doubling down on showing up now that they're giving him an angle he likes, which is "torturing people"
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Ad by Khad posted:Shawn's still gonna need money in 20 years, he'll be in the main event of WM 50 but by then, Vince's brain-in-a-jar can just commission holograms of HBK in his prime and project them onto local talent so he should probably line up a plan b, is what I'm saying
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Still blows my mind that John Cena learned mandarin for this company honestly if you're going to learn a language that will be useful in the next 20 years your best bet is Mandarin or Russian
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Still blows my mind that John Cena learned mandarin for this company I mean I think Mandarin is gonna be pretty useful to Cena in his acting career, dude's in a Transformers movie.
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You two aren't wrong and it is useful - I'm just saying he learned it just to make his company appear more global then by his own account 'got obsessed with the language'. Now he's vacationing in China. He's living his best Cena life.
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Chris James 2 posted:Cena's already at the part-timer stage. Orton was getting there but is doubling down on showing up now that they're giving him an angle he likes, which is "torturing people" Honestly given the workaholic Cena is, I don't see him being Part-Time as him being Part-Time, but the company not wanting him to be around and transitioning him to such.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:You two aren't wrong and it is useful - I'm just saying he learned it just to make his company appear more global then by his own account 'got obsessed with the language'. hilariously while he may have learned mandarin for wwe, its going to make him even more attractive to movie companies because then they can send a star to do movie promo stuff to the PRC
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I think even back in 2016 when he learned it Cena sorta knew in the back of his head he was gonna be in Pictures and Mandarin would be real useful for that. But he did probably mostly learn it for the company, which is pretty wild. And the fact that he's using it to just live in China for a while now is pretty great. Cena rules.
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The Chinese are likely suspicious of John ever since he learned their language and he cannot be seen. He is obviously working for Vince McMahon as a proxy of the White House to spy on Chinese military secrets.
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Chris James 2 posted:lol you think this will ever happen Yeah but there are no stars from this generation that they can trot out like the guys you mentioned. Cena is about it.
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Jackie D posted:Yeah but there are no stars from this generation that they can trot out like the guys you mentioned. Cena is about it. They'll just pretend they are stars and whatever fans they have left will buy it because they'll be better than whatever losers are on the roster in the future by virtue of not being on Raw getting ruined every week. Like, just not being on Raw for a while makes you a bigger star than most of the current roster because you're not on Raw and they are.
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They're already on their second Shield reunion and it will almost certainly not be their last. WWE's gonna spend a decade-plus loving that chicken for cheap nostalgia pops.
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I've got no problem with a Batista return. He still looks to be in amazing shape.
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is batista sticking around, why do people think he's staying, i thought it was a one time thing
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Baron Corbin posted:is batista sticking around, why do people think he's staying, i thought it was a one time thing He might show up and start fightin' with Triple H so he can get his Triple H match at Mania and retire the way he wants to. He's been vocal about wanting that.
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Lid posted:We're past 15 years of Randy. It's amazing his career longevity and success considering how boring he's been for most of it, combined with his awful bag making GBS threads, penis handshake, steroid taking, slut shaming behaviours. He's also one of those people who people keep having to tell you is great when the product doesn't seem to match. Justin Credible, Roman Reigns, sadly Daniel Bryan on comeback.
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I don't remember anyone saying Justin Credible was great
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Wazzu posted:slut shaming The night after WM30 the crowd of almost all hardcore fans called women sluts for being in committed relationships, and you think it'll matter to WWE what their wrestlers do?
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