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Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Spookydonut posted:

"first" galactic empire.

*cough* several sith empires. the infinite empire. need i go on?

Look, if Sheev called it the "7th Galactic Empire", it might suggest that his version will end about as well as the other six.

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Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Funky Valentine posted:

Look, if Sheev called it the "7th Galactic Empire", it might suggest that his version will end about as well as the other six.

The Fel Empire, Empire of the hand...

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Dave Syndrome posted:

The thing that bothers me so far is that none of them seem to have any weaknesses.
Yes, they're supposed to be "imperfect" clones, but it looks more like every one of them is a specialized expert at their job. I hope the introduction of Echo (and Fennec Shand?) into the team goes some way into showing the cracks in their armor. Let it be internal conflict, or physical or mental problems due to the imperfect cloning process, I don't care - but it would suck if the show's formula were just "mounting external threat vs perfect soldiers". We'll see, I guess.

At least 2 will be dead by the end of the series. I'm going to say the big one and the smart one. Honestly, I don't care for the characters themselves but the potential for a show right at the start of the Empire is really fantastic, and the trailer implies that the Bad Batch lack the Order 66 chips and therefor are going to be in an interesting position.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Funky Valentine posted:

Look, if Sheev called it the "7th Galactic Empire", it might suggest that his version will end about as well as the other six.

Maybe it's more of a royal name situation. Yeah, there's been other kings and queens before, but none called this exact name, so he's George the First or what have you. Sheev had the first empire named that, rather than the first empire of that size.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Dave Syndrome posted:

The thing that bothers me so far is that none of them seem to have any weaknesses.
Yes, they're supposed to be "imperfect" clones, but it looks more like every one of them is a specialized expert at their job. I hope the introduction of Echo (and Fennec Shand?) into the team goes some way into showing the cracks in their armor. Let it be internal conflict, or physical or mental problems due to the imperfect cloning process, I don't care - but it would suck if the show's formula were just "mounting external threat vs perfect soldiers". We'll see, I guess.

Pretty sure the implication is that they're not bad soldiers- it's likely that any clones incompetent at that would have been, ahem, weeded out before deployment- but that they're not the perfect obedient all-rounder soldiers that they're supposed to be.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Bad Batch had positive mutations which is why they got to be deployed. Bad mutations like 99 who can barely function get regulated to base work at best.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

twistedmentat posted:

At least 2 will be dead by the end of the series. I'm going to say the big one and the smart one. Honestly, I don't care for the characters themselves but the potential for a show right at the start of the Empire is really fantastic, and the trailer implies that the Bad Batch lack the Order 66 chips and therefor are going to be in an interesting position.
Not having the Order 66 chips would make them pretty "imperfect" ftom the Kaminoan perspective.

tsob posted:

Maybe it's more of a royal name situation. Yeah, there's been other kings and queens before, but none called this exact name, so he's George the First or what have you. Sheev had the first empire named that, rather than the first empire of that size.
Nah, it's because all the other Empires had a Republic to fight occupying half the known galaxy. Sheev got the whole thing under his thumb.

Dave Syndrome
Jan 11, 2007
Look, Bernard. Bernard, look. Look. Bernard. Bernard. Look. Bernard. Bernard. Bernard! Bernard. Bernard. Look, Bernard! Bernard. Bernard! Bernard! Look! Bernard! Bernard. Bernard! Bernard, look! Look! Look, Bernard! Bernard! Bernard, look! Look! Bern

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Pretty sure the implication is that they're not bad soldiers- it's likely that any clones incompetent at that would have been, ahem, weeded out before deployment- but that they're not the perfect obedient all-rounder soldiers that they're supposed to be.

Yeah, perhaps I was unclear. They need something to counterbalance their expertise and superiority in combat in order to make them interesting.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

https://twitter.com/darkhorizons/status/1370418430755532800

quote:

“That’s a straight no from me, right now. There’s no way I want to be turned blue. I turned the air blue, very recently. No no, seriously, I have precious time with my children and I think sitting in a makeup chair and being painted blue, and the amount of time it would take to do that and then take it off at the end of the day might just… it’s not the right time in my life for that.”

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I mean, that's fair. Ask any Star Trek actor about spending hours in the makeup chair.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

awww yeah

https://twitter.com/megsokay/status/1371902119645679616?s=20

that last one is the short from the Holiday Special, if I remember correctly

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Cross-Section posted:

awww yeah

https://twitter.com/megsokay/status/1371902119645679616?s=20

that last one is the short from the Holiday Special, if I remember correctly

That's hilarious. "We'll release the one part of the Holiday Special where you can't see anyone high on coke, or a Wookiee watching porn."

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yes, Teek supremacy incoming to Disney+.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

The Ewok movies will forever be Pre-ROTJ canon to me. I don't care who tries to tell me otherwise.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

They’re going to stream the Ewoks cartoon but not the Droids one? Wack.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Perhaps coincidentally they’ve revealed that Durge is canon again:

https://twitter.com/philszostak/status/1372212079063564290?s=21

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Yaaaaay. The absolute best bit from that cartoon :rolleyes:

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Can't wait for Aphra to throw him into a sun

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



She’ll smelt him and sell him for scrap, steal the scrap back, and use it to fix BT at the order of triple zero.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I'm still of the idea they should do a special TCW "Season 0" which is a 15-20 episode season featuring Durge, showing Anakin get his knighthood and being introduced to Rex, etc.. More or less a revamped canon take of the first half of the Gendy series. Something that would act as a better opener for TCW now that Chronological order is the go to for some new watchers.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

Just say that the 2D cartoon is canon and be done with it imo.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

On my The Clone Wars watch:

"Bounty Hunters" is one of the worst episodes of The Clone Wars -- a standard "Obi-Wan and Anakin teach farmers to defend themselves from pirates" plot without anything to distinguish it from countless others. "The Zillo Beast", on the other hand, is one of the best episodes so far. It's the first with Palpatine as the bad guy of the episode, as opposed to subtle involvement like telling Padme to exit hyperspace right at a location ripe for being taken as a Separatist hostage.

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 18, 2021

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



galenanorth posted:

On my The Clone Wars watch:

"Bounty Hunters" is one of the worst episodes of The Clone Wars -- a standard "Obi-Wan and Anakin teach farmers to defend themselves from pirates" plot without anything to distinguish it from countless others. "The Zillo Beast", on the other hand, is one of the best episode so far. It's the first with Palpatine as the bad guy of the episode, as opposed to subtle involvement like telling Padme to exit hyperspace right at a location ripe for being taken as a Separatist hostage.

Bounty hunters get better when you realize it's the magnificent seven

Dave Syndrome
Jan 11, 2007
Look, Bernard. Bernard, look. Look. Bernard. Bernard. Look. Bernard. Bernard. Bernard! Bernard. Bernard. Look, Bernard! Bernard. Bernard! Bernard! Look! Bernard! Bernard. Bernard! Bernard, look! Look! Look, Bernard! Bernard! Bernard, look! Look! Bern

bunnyofdoom posted:

Bounty hunters get better when you realize it's the magnificent seven

To be fair, the Magnificent Seven/Seven Samurai trope really has been done to death, most recently in epsiode 4, season 1 of The Mandalorian.

pile of brown
Dec 31, 2004
Isn't that the first time you meet Ambo? He rules

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Aladdin actor Mena Massoud is heavily hinting he's been cast as Ezra Bridger.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

The_Doctor posted:

Aladdin actor Mena Massoud is heavily hinting he's been cast as Ezra Bridger.

Might as well bring in Will Smith as Thrawn then, already used to the makeup

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

The_Doctor posted:

Aladdin actor Mena Massoud is heavily hinting he's been cast as Ezra Bridger.

In what? The Ahsoka series?

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

twistedmentat posted:

In what? The Ahsoka series?

Presumably. His casting was also rumored a while back by Kessel Run Transmissions, one of the better leak sources from the last year or so.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

I watched the five episodes centered on the Second Battle of Geonosis. It had some really good subtle moments, like Anakin being surprised that Padme would be friends with a member of the Banking Clan, and Anakin replying "No, it's not that" to Luminara when she asks if the problem is that he doesn't think Ahsoka can successfully complete her mission, because he doesn't want to admit that he's attached to his Padawan out loud, before it ramps up in full with Anakin using force choking to torture information from a Geonosian on how to defeat the brain parasites infesting Ahsoka's ship. I liked that the Jedi seemed exhausted in the first few episodes. It seems like the brain parasites could've easily already spread to other planets, given that the Geonosian queen had every moment in previous time to spread them, if she had wanted, and that episode being the first time it happened was a coincidence.

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Mar 20, 2021

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Sucks that Luminara was offed like she was, we never got to see her reaction to Barriss going insane.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Funky Valentine posted:

Sucks that Luminara was offed like she was, we never got to see her reaction to Barriss going insane.

It's interesting how they've left Barriss's fate as a mystery. Unlike say Shaak-Ti where they can't decide which deleted scene is what killed her, they've never said she joined the Sith or died during the purge or something else.

It really feels like its been left open so someone with a good idea can pick up that thread and run with it. My fanfic version of Episode 9 had her joining the Hidden Sith but regretting it, as her intentions to oppose the war were abused and manipulated to bring about an age of darkness. I really should write that up from the notes I made because honestly, its way better than Episode 9; Palpatine is just a ghost that Rey mocks, there is a civil war in the First Order, Hux is a prisoner of the heroes for most of the movie, said heroes are together for almost the entire story, we find out that the force brought them all together becuase they are the next generation of jedi. The fan wankiest part is when they go into palpatines vault, one of the Observatories rather than death star ruins, and they find the light sabers of a bunch of jedi masters and have to fight a Destroyer than is partially the remains of Grevious.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Barriss becoming in Inquisitor always made sense to me. She had already convinced herself the Jedi were evil warmongers, it wouldn't take much to convince her that hunting down the remaining ones was the right thing to do.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Tarkin would’ve seen that and thought she only lacked vision. How long was it between her trial and Order 66?

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Icon Of Sin posted:

Tarkin would’ve seen that and thought she only lacked vision. How long was it between her trial and Order 66?

Maybe a few months.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Moon Slayer posted:

Barriss becoming in Inquisitor always made sense to me. She had already convinced herself the Jedi were evil warmongers, it wouldn't take much to convince her that hunting down the remaining ones was the right thing to do.

I remain honestly surprised that t hey didn't throw that into Rebels.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Barriss being an Inquisitor would just raise the question of why Vader doesn't kill her on the spot.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




galenanorth posted:

"The Zillo Beast", on the other hand, is one of the best episodes so far. It's the first with Palpatine as the bad guy of the episode...

Palpatine really enjoys himself in that episode. Not only does he get to torture a sentient being, he gets to force an ethical, well intentioned scientist to do it for him. He's giving himself mini-vacation to indulge in evil for its own sake, like Dooku letting himself be captured by pirates so he can have a few days off to meditate.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Madurai posted:

I remain honestly surprised that t hey didn't throw that into Rebels.
Fan theory is that she became the Seventh Sister because they're the same species and that's good enough.

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Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

Arquinsiel posted:

Fan theory is that she became the Seventh Sister because they're the same species and that's good enough.

drat it you made me look her up on wookieepedia and yeah. Same species, was a member of the jedi order, and survived order 66. If it wasn't her, it certainly seems like they meant it to be.

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