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Bar Ran Dun posted:They show that in previous episodes. They show how the no helmet Mandos have been acquiring wealth (the Romeo / Juliet bounty) and the fleet. They show how the radicals are acquiring people. And God is of course there. I’m mean… It might help to differentiate a few things here. The Book Of Joshua isn’t a factual account of historical events - and, of course, neither is Manderlorian S3. However, both narratives can be read as science fiction. Reading a narrative as sci-fi entails simply wondering how they eat and breathe and other science facts. If Joshua has an army, then the army is necessarily being fed, armed, clothed, etc. All those supplies were produced at some point. If the walls of Jericho fall, then something has caused that happen. Likewise, Manderlorian. When you repeat to yourself, "it's just a show, I should really just relax,” then we’re in the realm of fantasy. There you can have armies without food, magic trumpets etc. No story is ‘just’ fantasy, though, since someone is inevitably fantasizing about something - even if it’s just the reader imagining bullshit. That’s where things get psychoanalytical. But the crucial point here is that ‘genre’ is not an inherent quality of a given work, since it’s entirely in the reader’s approach. You can fantasize about how a robot works, or get very technical about ghost anatomy. It’s up to you. Certain works are just more conducive to certain interpretations. So, with that in mind: In Book Of Joshua (or, at least, the initial parts concern the razing of Jericho), everything is very dry and mundane. The story is set on Earth, in a fairly specific time and place: in and around Bronze Age Palestine. The plot is also extremely simple: Joshua, leader of the Israelite tribe, has an army that’s been brutally massacring people, sacking villages, etc. And that’s it; Joshua just kills all the people, ransacks their homes, and takes their precious metals. People either join or die, and the vast majority die. The End (of Chapter 6). There are really only two parts that can be considered fantastical: Joshua has been receiving messages from God, and passing these on to his followers. Through Joshua, God makes seemingly arbitrary demands, like ‘genocide all the people but also cut off all your foreskins and parade around with a golden box.’ It’s really important that the parade is a done a certain number of times, and that the box is a certain number of centimetres wide, etc. But Joshua’s followers complete all these instructions without question, and the apparent result is that God dissolves all barriers, parts the waters, etc. The genocide proceeds without a hitch, and they become a terrifying army, showered in gold. So, the recap, the two ‘fantastical’ elements are the messages from God and the dissolution of the obstacles. Now, reading the film as sci-fi, we can easily interpret God and Joshua as aspects of a single character - named Joshua. Little or nothing in the story actually changes if Joshua is just claiming to enact the will of the divine, while making rockstar demands and whipping his armies into a frenzy. ‘Nobody is allowed to talk for a week. Raise the golden box, blast the horns, complete the parade thirteen times - and no brown M&Ms.’ As noted earlier, the story describes a circular relationship between God and the Israelites: ‘God has given us this city, and we will give this city to God’. And if you think about that for a second, they are effectively just saying that they, their armies, are God. Like, God acts through them and they enjoy as He does. It’s an ideological fantasy of violence serving a higher Purpose. With that context, the claims that they are destined to win and all resistance will vanish before them are pretty easy to understand as a similar bluster. Grandiose metaphor. Anyone who could dispute that the walls collapsed with a shout is very dead, as the Israelites slaughtered Jericho’s whole population - the women, and the children too. ‘History’ written by the victors. Of course, we could also take the alternate sci-fi approach and explore whether there is an invisible nonhuman entity masterminding the whole operation. Like, an Energy Field - an Ancient Alien. Through what mechanism does God topple a wall? (Later, in Joshua 10, God allegedly exhibits weather-control powers and then either halts Earth in its orbit or pauses time itself.) But this is simply way less supported than the other take - a weaker interpretation. What’s most notable about the story, to me at least, is that there is zero effort to convince the reader of the veracity of the claims - no detail about the size of the army, strength of the wall, or anything like that. ‘Just trust me, bro!’ As a contrast, there’s a fairly lengthy description of the dimensions of the gold box, and a lengthy dialogue where Rahab The Harlot pleads for her survival with the Israelite spies. That’s the important stuff. The focus is squarely on the message of strict adherence to the leader’s precise designs, under threat of death. So! Like Joshua, Manderlorian S3 is about a leader. But, unlike Josh’s story, Manderlorian doesn’t take place on Earth. So Bo Katan is a leader of what? I do understand and acknowledge the basic narrative where Bo K. unites the three main Manderlorian factions. You have the religious fundamentalist cult led by the blacksmith, (former) ‘Death Watch’ traditionalists led by Axe Wolf, and then the leaderless(?) urban/cosmopolitan normies from The Clone Wars - represented, I guess, by the random dudes who appear on a boat-sled at the end of the narrative. And, for the first two groups, we have relatively firm numbers: there are like maybe a couple dozen cultists, and all the Death Watch guys fit into one ship. How do they repopulate the planet? (Or is this just a kind of arbitrary territorial claim?) One sensible answer could be immigration, but the narrative doesn’t go there. Instead, we do have this unknown number of guys on boats, apparently living in these underground caverns containing an unknown amount of plant life and also kaijus & morlocs. These are the variables, and so I guess we’re to assume that there’s enough of that stuff to restore the whole planet. You could say that this is a story of realizing what was there all along; Bo K. spent several decades living a five-minute drive from this place, and has only now learned that it has a whole ecosystem, huge population of Mad Max sailors, areas of still-functioning infrastructure, etc. The other part of the story is the elimination of the imperial influence, as the Death Watch guys pointedly defeat the enemy fascists by blowing up their own Star Destroyer - in a sense, at least hypothetically, purging that aspect of themselves. This is where it becomes a narrative of 'worthiness', where the subcultures grow and learn to respect eachother’s belief systems - except, again, for the boat guys who just exist at the margins of the narrative. The boat guys are just a placeholder for ‘the rest of the population’, being the queen’s future subjects - the ones who aren’t part of the nascent church and state. So, what makes one ‘worthy’? The story uses the device of the sword, which they believe only works if it’s 'legitimately' won. But the sword is overtly just a symbolic gizmo, and what it means is simply that the queen cannot hold power without the respect of her military. Djarin’s admission of weakness, that Bo bested him in combat, is enough to earn that endorsement. So we don’t need the physical sword anymore. In the same way, the sighting of the mythical Mythosaur of myth is not really a magical event, when kaiju are mundanely real in the setting and recently awoken by the bombing of the planet. It is only subjectively meaningful to Bo because it coincided with the cult’s discovery of breathable air and her accidental baptism while investigating for herself. The emergence of monsters is the product of the apocalypse, but in the sense of renewal in this case. Planet Manderlore has been refurbished, spaded under, and has another chance to serve as a garden for a future human civilization. So Bo realizes that, and decides to be a part of that, feeling that it is her purpose. But anyways, back to the point here: I’m doing the heavy lifting of presuming the existence of millions of offscreen sailors (or immigrants?) massive subterranean forests (or ‘atmosphere processors’ as presumably exist on Coruscant?), etc. Opposite of how The Book Of Joshua is all about the process of enacting the genocide, while tossing in a couple metaphorical flourishes, The Book Of Bo Katan is all about the feelings of affinity, the magic of friendship and of believing in yourself, the inner journey of self-realization, etc. - with just couple shots of some flowers near the end to signify that it’s gonna be alright somehow. And that’s less meaty, less interesting. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 15, 2025 |
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There's a bunch of clips out now and they really did not miss a drat beat www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDls0syzGsU www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7GSWt6buug www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdHGywtZ8N0 Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Apr 15, 2025 |
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I ain't watching that. I'm saving myself for marriage.
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Four clips in total have been released www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwz558O2unU www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDls0syzGsU www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7GSWt6buug www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdHGywtZ8N0 e: beaten. I even made an effort not to spoil anything with the embedding.
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SimonChris posted:e: beaten. I even made an effort not to spoil anything with the embedding. Oops, that is a good idea.
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Arc Hammer posted:I ain't watching that. I'm saving myself for marriage. For real. Gonna be doing my best to dodge clips, images, and spoiler text for the next week. If I was smart I'd mark this thread unread. But I'm too hype and wanna keep it up.
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Public service announcement if you liked Rebels: Vanessa Marshall (Hera Syndulla), Tiya Sircar (Sabine Wren) and Taylor Gray (Ezra Bridger) have started a podcast called "Pod of Rebellion", where they talk about one episode each week. It's quite an interesting look into the world of voice acting, and you really get the idea that they had a lot of fun doing the show together. The host, Jon Lee Brody, is a complete unknown to me, but he gels well with the others, and they have J.C. Reifenberg along for the ride (who some may know as the producer of Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin's Fatman Beyond podcast, and who owns a Star Wars themed bar called Scum and Villainy) to provide trivia and Star Wars fact-checking at the end of each episode. They're about five (of an eventual 75) episodes in at the moment, so this is still a good moment to jump aboard and catch up. Fun tidbits I learned so far: - Voice actors tend to be given little information about high profile IPs before casting, with recognizable names switched out in the scripts they're given to read. Taylor Gray initially thought he was auditioning for Mowgli in a new Jungle Book project. - Vanessa Marshall is a huge Star Wars geek in real life and apparently really took to the role of "space mom" during recording sessions, taking care that her castmates were hydrated and supplied with fruit and snacks from her handbag. - Taylor Gray recorded lines as Ezra for the Disney Infinity game, got a promotional copy, and promptly got rid of it because playing as himself and constantly hearing his own voice freaked him out too much. Long story short: It's a sweet and heartwarming podcast. Go check it out.
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Arc Hammer posted:I ain't watching that. I'm saving myself for marriage. Same! I am rewatching Season 1 in preperation.
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I can just say there's already two lines in those clips that are right up there with bangers from season one. How this show continues to have single lines of dialogue that hit like gut punches is still a work of beauty. See season one with "Never more than twelve," "That's just love," and "A drop of discomfort" let alone the three big monologues.
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This case appears to bear all the hallmarks of what I like to describe as "regrettable misadventure"
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Arc Hammer posted:This case appears to bear all the hallmarks of what I like to describe as "regrettable misadventure" Rewatching that over the weekend I laughed again. The first three episodes are called slow, but there is so much there. I left out a bunch, including another favorite, "power doesn't panic".
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It's great how Syril's boss gets the situation dead on the instant he reads the report and is willing to toss it aside because it would screw with their crime figures. An overdeveloped sense of justice overrides the blind eye that authority turns to avoid exerting itself.
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Arc Hammer posted:It's great how Syril's boss gets the situation dead on the instant he reads the report and is willing to toss it aside because it would screw with their crime figures. An overdeveloped sense of justice overrides the blind eye that authority turns to avoid exerting itself. And furthermore, it's only because Syril is some die hard fascist that the investigation proceeds while the Chief is away at a meeting and he's left temporarily in charge. The rest of the officer corp does not want to go along, but has to because they are ordered to. Ironically, Syril is disobeying a direct, very clear order when he does all this. Then he finally gets support from that Sergeant character who seems gung ho to crack some skulls and rough up the locals.
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It's written vaguely enough incite a mass revolution rather than getting too far into specifics. The Rebellion needs to come from everywhere with a universal goal of defeating the Empire, so I kinda like that Nemik's manifesto approaches the topic by broadly appealing to universal concepts. It runs the risk of coming off as too generic without those specifics, but I think it works for its intended purpose.
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Arc Hammer posted:It's great how Syril's boss gets the situation dead on the instant he reads the report and is willing to toss it aside because it would screw with their crime figures. An overdeveloped sense of justice overrides the blind eye that authority turns to avoid exerting itself. The chief inspector isn't being lazy--he's good at his job. He's selected the appropriate response based on his (correct) assessment of the situation, and the overt goal of not drawing down Imperial scrutiny which will (again, correctly predicted) result in worse outcomes for everyone.
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We're all going to watch this show eventually. What's the appeal of seeing these scenes out of context? I'd rather be wrapped up in the episode while I watch it rather than having a jarring, "oh yeah, this is the context for that clip," running through my head pointlessly.
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Arc Hammer posted:It's written vaguely enough incite a mass revolution rather than getting too far into specifics. The Rebellion needs to come from everywhere with a universal goal of defeating the Empire, so I kinda like that Nemik's manifesto approaches the topic by broadly appealing to universal concepts. It runs the risk of coming off as too generic without those specifics, but I think it works for its intended purpose. Yeah it's great rhetoric because he keeps it universally applicable. It has a broad appeal to not only the Alliance to Restore the Republic and Partisans, but also Sector Partitionists, Seperatists, and even Human Cultists. Madurai posted:The chief inspector isn't being lazy--he's good at his job. He's selected the appropriate response based on his (correct) assessment of the situation, and the overt goal of not drawing down Imperial scrutiny which will (again, correctly predicted) result in worse outcomes for everyone. Yeah, the dude is factually correct and arrives at a simple solution that arguably would have left everyone in the PreMor corporate sector better off, even the regular people (citizens? subjects? consumers? servitors?). To know if he was actually lazy we'd need an A-B test with a real crime. Though it's a strength of the show that that scene is written and performed so you can feel that way in the moment, empathizing a little with Karn's ultimately destructive zealotry that arises from his frustration. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Apr 15, 2025 |
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Madurai posted:The chief inspector isn't being lazy--he's good at his job. He's selected the appropriate response based on his (correct) assessment of the situation, and the overt goal of not drawing down Imperial scrutiny which will (again, correctly predicted) result in worse outcomes for everyone. The chief is sharp as a tack and has been in the business long enough to know when to let things slide. I love that about him. He's still a spineless toad when it comes to actually answering to his fascist bosses, however, so I can't be too nice on him. He had a good idea that Syril ignored, but his whole "i wasn't here I'm not at fault!" excuse doesn't really fly. The thing is, Syril isn't exactly wrong, either. He's way too overzealous but upholding the law and justice by itself isn't a bad thing. Now it becomes evident later on that Syril's mindset has been fostered in a toxic environment with his overbearing mother and his overdeveloped sense of justice and obedience to authority, but that's just another way that the Imperial Thought Machine strips people of their freedom and independence. Syril is a textbook example of how authoritarian regimes can twist noble ideals and morality to the service of evil. Syril isn't a baby killing psychopath raised to hate and treat everyone as subhuman scum. He's an idiot whose head is filled with stupid ideas of virtue and duty and he genuinely belies in what he's doing as a service to a higher cause. It blinds him to his own biases and personal ambition. A thing I love about the first arc in Andor is that everyone believes they are doing the right thing, even if the outcomes from that aren't always positive, or are downright tragic. Syril wants to bring in Andor, Maarva "saves" him from Kenari as a child, Timm just wants to protect his relationship with Bix and drops a tip for PreMor, and Luthen takes a gamble to recruit a new asset. Everyone is acting like what they do is right, when those individual beliefs are incompatible with each other. In Syril's case, he wants to be the good guy, so nothing he does is wrong, in his head. But we're also seeing things from the other side with Cassian and the harassment he experiences at the hands of the cops. It isn't onesided like Syril has been raised to believe, but he's so stuck in his mindset he can't believe anything else.
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Eiba posted:We're all going to watch this show eventually. What's the appeal of seeing these scenes out of context? I'd rather be wrapped up in the episode while I watch it rather than having a jarring, "oh yeah, this is the context for that clip," running through my head pointlessly. Mostly not everyone consumes media the same way. Spoilers don't bother me.
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Dave Syndrome posted:- Taylor Gray recorded lines as Ezra for the Disney Infinity game, got a promotional copy, and promptly got rid of it because playing as himself and constantly hearing his own voice freaked him out too much. Reminds me of a story Travis Willingham once told about how he got a copy of the Full Metal Alchemist video game and couldn't beat Roy Mustang, so it was doubly frustrating because not only was he losing, but it was his voice coming out of the TV telling him how much he sucked when he lost.
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Arc Hammer posted:The chief is sharp as a tack and has been in the business long enough to know when to let things slide. I love that about him. He's still a spineless toad when it comes to actually answering to his fascist bosses, however, so I can't be too nice on him. He had a good idea that Syril ignored, but his whole "i wasn't here I'm not at fault!" excuse doesn't really fly. Syril's a weasel of a man who doesn't care a whit about justice. He wants to be a Big Important Guy With Power. It's all there in his first appearance, the way he's tailored and piped his uniform to make himself appear more professional, and how he can't motivate or connect with any of his coworkers except by screaming and threatening them to do what he says. The second he's called to genuinely try to inspire them, even shallowly, he freezes. Syril Karn is a worm. Edit: hell, when we meet his mother we get some insight that his licking of the boot is downright oedipal.
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Mosk is a great character as a counterpoint to him. He is a meathead who craves order, and sees a martinet who shares his basic outlook but lacks his salt-of-the-Earth charisma. He imputes characteristics onto Syril he wants him to have. He sees right through his flaccid floppy pre-raid speech same as the men, but he applauds loudly and still wants to believe the dude's a fearless leader. Many such cases in fascism.
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I love the look that Mosk gives Syril during Maarva's speech. Him sitting and drinking alone afterwards says enough for you to know where he ultimately landed.
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LionArcher posted:Rewatching that over the weekend I laughed again. The first three episodes are called slow, but there is so much there. I left out a bunch, including another favorite, "power doesn't panic". The very first scenes in the show are Andor shooting a cop in cold blood and then the comp-stat meeting. Granted there's not a lot of pew-pew or jetpacks or whatever, but saying it starts out slow is insane. It's like "every shot is so dense" again, but instead of talking about CGI dudes in the background, it's talking about the implications of how Imperial power works and things like that. And when they do finally get to a pew-pew fight it's the best one in Star Wars until the show tops itself another three times. Ironslave posted:Syril's a weasel of a man who doesn't care a whit about justice. He wants to be a Big Important Guy With Power. It's all there in his first appearance, the way he's tailored and piped his uniform to make himself appear more professional, and how he can't motivate or connect with any of his coworkers except by screaming and threatening them to do what he says. The second he's called to genuinely try to inspire them, even shallowly, he freezes. Syril Karn is a worm. There is a kernel of sympathy in him when he's in the lurch and goes, "I solved a double murder in two days," and you start thinking that well, maybe he's a good detective at least... but his contribution to the investigation is a) telling a bunch of people to investigate it and b) leading the arrest himself and getting a bunch of his own guys killed.
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Sash! posted:I relate to Syril more than any other Star Wars character and this knowledge makes me super uncomfortable. I feel the same way about Doc Oc in the new Spider-Man cartoon.
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Madurai posted:The chief inspector isn't being lazy--he's good at his job. He's selected the appropriate response based on his (correct) assessment of the situation, and the overt goal of not drawing down Imperial scrutiny which will (again, correctly predicted) result in worse outcomes for everyone. And you can see it going right in one of Syril's ears and rrrrright out the other, like he doesn't even entertain this interpretation for one minute.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Mosk is a great character as a counterpoint to him. He is a meathead who craves order, and sees a martinet who shares his basic outlook but lacks his salt-of-the-Earth charisma. He imputes characteristics onto Syril he wants him to have. He sees right through his flaccid floppy pre-raid speech same as the men, but he applauds loudly and still wants to believe the dude's a fearless leader. Many such cases in fascism. His introduction where he calls corporate security the "first line of defense" for the Empire was so good. Got me to immediately understand what his deal was. Also his sadistically gleeful smile when he says that the best use of a "blade" is to use it. PunkBoy fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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He's such a gung ho idiot, he's great. And he seemed pretty happy working at the smelter afterwards, so perhaps he just commits himself to every job he gets. Poster boy for fascist enforcer, model worker for a welding team and a fantastic loving coal miner. Just throw yourself into your work. Alex Ferns deserves more work. Ironslave posted:He's well-written in that it's easy for someone looking at the surface to mistake his drive as a virtue, without consideration of what that drive is or what he does in service to it. Exactly what I mean when I say that I think Syril does believe in a righteous authority, but he's blind to the reality of what that entails because he's only ever wanted to be a hero without contemplating the cost. And he'll never, ever look down and realize there's no ground left beneath his feet. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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Rochallor posted:There is a kernel of sympathy in him when he's in the lurch and goes, "I solved a double murder in two days," and you start thinking that well, maybe he's a good detective at least... but his contribution to the investigation is a) telling a bunch of people to investigate it and b) leading the arrest himself and getting a bunch of his own guys killed. Syril believes in justice and order, as their pretenses aggrandize him. The second he fucks up, the second he fails and has to accept consequences and responsibility, it's the fault of Cassian Andor, not himself or the actual system which ended his career and which he had to kowtow to his abusive mother to gain a minor job in. It is not authority that makes mistakes, inflicts cruelty, or is unfair, it is those rightfully persecuted who are at fault. He desperately wants to be the boot, as his mother was to him, and as the Empire is to him, even though that club will never let him fully in. He's well-written in that it's easy for someone looking at the surface to mistake his drive as a virtue, without consideration of what that drive is or what he does in service to it.
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redshirt posted:Same! I watched the "catchup" video for season 1 and it made me just want to sit down and rewatch ALL of season 1 again 
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PunkBoy posted:His introduction where he calls corporate security the "first line of defense" for the Empire was so good. Got me to immediately understand what his deal was. Also his sadistically gleeful smile when he says that the best use of a "blade" is to use it. Obvious glee for putting the boot in aside, "the only way to keep a blade sharp... is to use it!" is a terrible analogy.
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Rochallor posted:The very first scenes in the show are Andor shooting a cop in cold blood and then the comp-stat meeting. Granted there's not a lot of pew-pew or jetpacks or whatever, but saying it starts out slow is insane. It's like "every shot is so dense" again, but instead of talking about CGI dudes in the background, it's talking about the implications of how Imperial power works and things like that. And when they do finally get to a pew-pew fight it's the best one in Star Wars until the show tops itself another three times. The whole slow thing just reveals what a lot of SW fans think SW should be. It's not slow by the standards of a crime or spy thriller or a character-driven drama. It's just slow by the standards of Disney SW (and most of Lucas') movies and shows which are generally paced at breakneck action genre speeds. They never slow down or let you think too much. It's plot point after plot point. I suspect a lot of people who call Andor slow would also consider A New Hope slow. The first third of it is paced almost like a New Hollywood drama. It's all about establishing the setting and just lets the action slowly unfurl. It grounds the world and story so everything that happens afterwards feels "real" for lack of a better word. Without that meandering pace in the first act, A New Hope wouldn't have been nearly as transporting or satisfying in its second and third acts. Andor does the same thing; it grounds everything with character, detail, and worldbuilding, setting up every thing that happens later.
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Every time I get to the end of episode 3 of Andor I'm blown away all over again at how effectively they conveyed so much story, so much history, got me invested in so many characters etc all so quickly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEBNxggpLw Can't loving wait for season 2.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:They’re in a setting where travel is basically instantaneous and power generation is effectively infinite. Where the answer to the question what is the mode of production is… whatever the gently caress any given planet decides it to be. The closest they get to laying it out in dollars and cents is in Andor, where Kino Loy tells us exactly how many slaves are on each floor of the prison, and it's a plot point when he reveals how few people they have to guard them. The implication is that these brutal methods aren't profitable and the whole prison is an increasingly untenable shoestring operation until a riot and a plumbing problem bring the whole system crashing down. The "Death Star" here is the electrified floor, which consumes so much power that even building the prison on a hydroelectric dam isn't enough. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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Why yes, I would like to see Andor awkwardly flying a TIE Avenger https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1912500964935819389?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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