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John Wick of Dogs posted:This probably will not be good for her career She'll get *some* poo poo on her simply for having been there, but the bulk of it will fly in the faces of the local governor and the grunts who didn't fash hard enough. Keep in mind that the commander on the ground technically outranked Dedra (four blue to her three) but it was very clear that she had operational control with regards to Andor's capture, but *not* riot control and suppression. Seeing as Andor was never positively identified and the only person who claimed to have seen him is dead (along with her adjutant), she can simply claim that Andor must not have showed up. It's been made very clear in this show that you don't get to the ISB without knowing how to dodge and reassign blame.
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Narsham posted:She's a loose cannon. Vel is never even able to communicate to her Luthen's new directive that they wait for the Empire to capture Andor and then kill him before they can secure him in the hotel. It isn't clear if she shadows obvious Imperial spy back to the hotel to see him "arrest" an informant, but she opts to stay after the spy instead of watching Dedra and her escort, or keeping an eye on the actual funeral itself? Why? And does she screw up following the guy and get forced to kill him, or does she deliberately follow closely because she wants to kill him? Killing him doesn't help the mission at all, but from what we see on screen, she kills him and then goes back to her apartment immediately. Isn't Andor still out there so far as she knows? Has she just given it up as impractical? She knows that Luthen and Vel have a dumb overly convoluted plan and like playing spy games. New Plan: Follow the ISB guy -> Either he finds Andor and she kills them both, or she kills just the ISB guy. Its a Win Win
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BIG HEADLINE posted:She'll get *some* poo poo on her simply for having been there, but the bulk of it will fly in the faces of the local governor and the grunts who didn't fash hard enough. Nah, Blevin's not going to let this one slide. She was given his sector and immediately saw it descend into an uprising. He's got a pretty good case that she's incompetent and the sector should be returned to his oversight, at the least. M_Gargantua posted:She knows that Luthen and Vel have a dumb overly convoluted plan and like playing spy games. New Plan: Follow the ISB guy -> Either he finds Andor and she kills them both, or she kills just the ISB guy. Its a Win Win He was also using her coffee shop for surveillance, who knows what he picked up about her. Icing him ties up some loose ends. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Everything is coming up Blevin.
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Like the prefect can even say he had intended to deny the permit but ISB meddling had forced him to allow the funeral, then when he attempted to position snipers to overlook the intersection the ISB again meddled and pulled them back. The snipers might have been able to take out the kid throwing the bomb which might have meant the kettling could have continued to hold. I can't imagine he'll face many consequences either.
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I can't take Blevin seriously because he's played by Doc Brown, who I only know from Taskmaster where he punches a fish while rapping a nursery rhyme and flirts with a Swedish man while trying to learn what job his father does.
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Blevin installed the governor who hosed everything up, pulled security from the prison and allowed the only witness they had on Axis to escape with the suspect they wanted to lead them to Axis. With a good argument Deedra could skate out of this unscathed. Pretty sure the prefect/governor/whatever also had Salman Paak killed, radicalizing his kid and not monitoring him. He's a perfect scapegoat. thatbastardken fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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thatbastardken posted:Blevin installed the governor who hosed everything up, pulled security from the prison and allowed the only witness they had on Axis to escape with the suspect they wanted to lead them to Axis. With a good argument Deedra could skate out of this unscathed. this is a great point. i always thought the scene where that guy gets his little promotion and all that was cute but stuck out since this show usually is super economical about what it shows us, and that didn't seem to have any obvious connection to anything. could totally see that guy being key to how dedra gets out of this, though still setting her up as "needing a win" at the outset of season 2 and having her entire career on the line, and maybe having her duties reduced to just "find andor/axis" since that'd be the only thing she cares about
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That loving ruled. The building of tension of the funeral, the escalation, the music, everything was so great. Mon Mothma is ice loving cold and I respect her for it. Just really loved the big guy (forgot his name) holding the rock and just knowing aw poo poo she asked him to literally bash the fash with her ash(es) that's beautiful and then he did and it was awesome. I half expected as the climax to the tension was building for some extra to look over at a wall and realize a rock was missing only to have everyone in the parade pull out their rocks and heave them. I also really like how Rebellion is messy and ugly. She sparked a rebellion and it got people massacred. The brutal crackdown will affect everyone on the planet. Yet you still have Anvil Guy straight up Sparta-ing a Stormtrooper because it's better to be awake. Just great. Really loved it - may be my favorite Star Wars content ever...?! edit: did everyone stay on for the post-credits reveal? Again super satisfying. I appreciate the show doesn't hold your hand and shows not tells with details like this and also the performances like Luthen's smile.
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Vinylshadow posted:The RotS novel says Padme didn't want the doctors to tell her and she forbids Anakin from using the Force to find out (although he surmises it's a girl based on the strength of the kick) okay this does help, thank you for busting out the novel just for this "WOW PADME WHAT A STRONG KICK, WE MUST BE HAVING A GOKU" stev posted:The bigger issue is that she appears to go from newly pregnant to full term in like three weeks. right??? i guess we can use it to map out the passage of time in the movie but uuhhhhh in practice it's so silly and magical
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Hughmoris posted:Just finished the finale and I'll echo everyone in saying it was amazing. surprise, and loathing, and an extra dash of loathing because the creepy motherfucker who at best desperately wants her to hire him literally saved her from literally getting torn apart by an angry mob god, i love this show, season 2 can't come out soon enough
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M_Gargantua posted:She knows that Luthen and Vel have a dumb overly convoluted plan and like playing spy games. New Plan: Follow the ISB guy -> Either he finds Andor and she kills them both, or she kills just the ISB guy. Its a Win Win You want to follow someone to Andor, follow Dedra and her guards moving purposefully toward another building. Following undercover guy who is alone and walking away accomplishes only one thing: you can kill the guy. If anyone cares, she could claim that he could identify her, but why in the world would he do that? He's unlikely to stick around, and if he did and she's gone, why would he think "she must be a rebel" and not "she must have gotten arrested or killed during the riot"? She is clearly dedicated to the cause, but she isn't committed to taking down the Empire for any reason besides being able to kill as many Imperials as she can. Even Saw has more ideology driving him than Cinta. Her seriousness and focus on the "mission" are ultimately in service to killing as many Imperials as possible. That doesn't make her wrong, but it does mean her purposes won't always run parallel to Luthen's. Note too how she seems to have deliberately closed so she could knife that guy, and that knifing him and getting his blood on her hands was her objective. She doesn't wipe it off on his clothing, she isn't even in a hurry to wash it off when she gets home. She's dangerous. The people who seem most in control are the ones you really have to worry about losing it. As for Dedra, I predict she gets a sideways promotion. She loses her sectors, but she's put on a full-time "finding Axis" job instead. That gets her out of the ladder climb and harnesses her existing drive to a desire to redeem herself. It also means that she'll either be working at cross-purposes with the sector chiefs or she'll be constantly getting undermined by them, but that's the sort of "competitive" bureaucratic structure the ISB is all about. Depends on if S2 starts one year later or waits to take the first time-jump. If it waits, there's more opportunity to see her redeeming herself (and Syril, too, perhaps?).
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Jerusalem posted:The Emperor orders Yularen to order Partagaz to hire Syril and put him to work directly under Dedra. Not as part of any grand plan, not as punishment for her gently caress-ups on Ferrix, but simply because he thinks that would be loving hilarious. everything about your employment has proceeded exactly as i have foreseen lol, owned
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At this point, I think we can all agree Syril is the true hero of Andor. He sidestepped bureaucracy in pursuit of justice for two murdered colleagues. Starting from almost zero, he searched the entire GALAXY and found the murderer in 48 hours. Later, he again uses his meager resources to accurately predict the murderer's movements. In doing so, he bears witness to calamity and saves the life of a critically important ISB agent. The show should be called Karn.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Maarva was born 20-30 years too early. She could’ve been the Best Rebel leader. Also those Imps need to secure their munitions better lol. The wall will say: Welcome to Free Ferrix
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Quixotic1 posted:Oh God,a thought just went through my head. well, technically,
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my cat is norris posted:okay this does help, thank you for busting out the novel just for this Jedi got super midichlorian-infused sperm that can cause a brand new fetus mature to term in a couple weeks
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Hughmoris posted:At this point, I think we can all agree Syril is the true hero of Andor. If only there didn't seem to be posters online unironically calling Syril a fundamentally decent person for just wanting to bring a murderer to justice. But it gives me the opportunity to post this image, which is always a plus. Jinnigan posted:The wall will say: Welcome to Free Ferrix "HEY DEDRA! Leave those kids alone!" A Dirty Sock fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Hughmoris posted:At this point, I think we can all agree Syril is the true hero of Andor. He sidestepped bureaucracy in pursuit of justice for two murdered colleagues. Starting from almost zero, he searched the entire GALAXY and found the murderer in 48 hours. Later, he again uses his meager resources to accurately predict the murderer's movements. In doing so, he bears witness to calamity and saves the life of a critically important ISB agent. it has many times crossed my mind that in any other typical show context, the facts of the show would have us following and cheering for a police detective who is pursuing a double murder of law enforcement officers, followed by a major terrorist attack, followed by his corrupt superior getting him fired, but fortunately! he continues to pursue this vile criminal on his own time, with no resources except the few friends he retains from his noble service
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Narsham posted:You want to follow someone to Andor, follow Dedra and her guards moving purposefully toward another building. Following a uniformed ISB officer and her fully armed soldiers is a quick way to get nabbed and at a minimum interrogated. Dedra's ISB undercover guy was the only middling agent not getting backup by guys with big guns and armor and was the clear choice to follow. Also I think Cinta is smart enough to know that Cass isn't going to get caught by something as blatant as a strike team moving across a main road. Dedra is not stealthy despite her "give me a small team" order
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Love Rat posted:Jedi got super midichlorian-infused sperm that can cause a brand new fetus mature to term in a couple weeks She spends most of the movie wearing bulky clothes and cloaks so it's difficult to say when she started showing, and she had already been pregnant for a while before she told Anakin. Also I don't know how close to term she was when she gave birth but they induced labour prematurely
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:I know it'll be nigh-impossible to thread the needle, but I'm hoping we get at least one scene of someone reporting to Palpatine/Palpatine at the Senate in S2. Maybe show the dissolution of the Senate mentioned in ANH. As cool as it would be to see it, the Senate doesn't get dissolved until quite some time into the events of ANH.
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Tom Tucker posted:Mon Mothma is ice loving cold and I respect her for it. Mon Mothma is on a noble mission to out her degenerate husband, and ultimately the slimy Chandrilan sketch ball Perrin is willing to sell their daughter away to to cover their debts! I wish her luck and assume this will go exactly as planned.
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Cinta saw that all hell broke loose and the main mission was not possible for her to carry out, so she quickly went for the alternate target, instead of kill cassian in the chaos (no sighting of him anyway), kill the known ISB officer to stop any intel getting out and just to deny the enemy that resource. blap blap
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Hughmoris posted:I haven't seen Rogue One but I know how it ends. I didn't realize that Mom Mothra plays a part in it. Does she get a lot of screentime, or a side character? Would give rogue one highest recommendation, best space/land battle, fun characters, maybe tied with new hope and second only to empire strikes back in overall excellence.
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We do know Mon gets wind of the dissolution of the Senate and makes an escape before they can capture her with the remaining senate. I can see that being in the finale as she boards a rebel craft to get out of Dodge.
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drunkill posted:
This is what Trump warned us about when he warned us about antifa super soldiers
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Quixotic1 posted:We do know Mon gets wind of the dissolution of the Senate and makes an escape before they can capture her with the remaining senate. I can see that being in the finale as she boards a rebel craft to get out of Dodge. She actually makes a run for it a couple of years before the senate is dissolved after speaking out publically against a massacre of peaceful protestors. It was in Rebels.
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Dave Syndrome posted:As cool as it would be to see it, the Senate doesn't get dissolved until quite some time into the events of ANH. ANH is what, a week long?
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theflyingexecutive posted:ANH is what, a week long? Imperial Officer About to get Force Choked: Sir, as far as we can tell some dipshit idiot farmboy from Tatooine just come stumbling his way through and destroyed 30 years of intricate planning without really having a single idea what the hell he was doing. Vader: I have a son! 
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2house2fly posted:She spends most of the movie wearing bulky clothes and cloaks so it's difficult to say when she started showing, and she had already been pregnant for a while before she told Anakin. Also I don't know how close to term she was when she gave birth but they induced labour prematurely Oh I was just joking around.
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theflyingexecutive posted:ANH is what, a week long? Possibly, but that wasn't my point. It happens at least a day, probably a few days, after Andor dies in Rogue One, so the event won't be depicted in the show. At most, we may get some lines from someone near the end of season two that Palpatine is planning to dissolve the Senate - we may possibly even see events that will lead to him making that decision. Great, now I really want a McDiarmid cameo in season 2.
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Dave Syndrome posted:Possibly, but that wasn't my point. It happens at least a day, probably a few days, after Andor dies in Rogue One, so the event won't be depicted in the show. Don't count out the possibility of Stand By Me style epilogues for all the characters describing the senate being dissolved! WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Dave Syndrome posted:Possibly, but that wasn't my point. It happens at least a day, probably a few days, after Andor dies in Rogue One, so the event won't be depicted in the show. I think it's still possible Polygon posted:Gilroy says that Andor season 2 will follow a fairly similar structure to the first season.
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I know this is Andor’s story, but what are the chances we see Jyn Erso in whatever misadventure gets her locked up at the start of Rogue One?
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Feels kinda frustrating that despite all of the care, scheming, and sacrifice that Luthen, Mon, and co do to get the Rebellion off the ground, it will come down to Tatooine farm boy, rando smuggler guy, and retired space wizard intercepting the death star planes by happenstance with a little dash of space magic at the 11th hour to actually seal the deal. ... and then they get a giant celebration medal ceremony.
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All I want from season 2 is for Andor to meet the communist space otters who were re-canonised in a Rogue One tie-in novel. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tynnan/Legends https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Saltbite
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