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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

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Thumbtacks posted:

Started watching the mandelorian, on episode 4 right now. For some reason this entire episode looks like a video game cutscene, I’m not sure why the camera is so weird this time.

This happens in an episode of season 2 IIRC also where something about the technology they use for all the "green screen" and stuff can get weird when they're also incorporating some actual exterior locations.

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Bismuth posted:

I dont think this is really a spoiler because I had this gripe during TCW too but I'll spoiler anyway since its come up again

Do the Kaminoans know you can like, freeze and preserve genetic material? Like, you dont have to have a living subject to take it from, you can just put it in storage for awhile. This show wants me to believe a universe with cloning tech to this level, where people can be healed and cyborged up from almost any injury, but they cant preserve genetic material? Why is this even a problem thats happened more than once? Also if shes such a perfect copy of Jango why is she blonde and a girl? The only explanation that makes sense is that shes trans, but I'm sure its considerably stupider than that.

If you freeze perishable food it keeps indefinitely and will be safe to eat but after about one year the consistency and flavor will suck rear end.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

twistedmentat posted:

Hah imagine if Tarkin by blowing up the archive on Scarif destroyed the empires data base of cloning tech.

I always imagined if Tarkin had lived for a few more days he would have gotten a stern talking to about destroying the empirez data repository.

It is impressive how much Tarkin was a real deal true believer in the power of the Death Star to rule over everything.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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:dukedog:

Everyone posted:

With the Sarlacc you either go big (AKA play up the full-on horrific nature of the situation) or you go home. This show decided to go home. And I'm kind of okay with that. The worst choice would have been to half-rear end. I figure they knew they couldn't do it justice so they decided not to try.

One thing I like so far is that this is the Senior Star Wars show. Morrison is 61. Ming-na and Beals are 57 (but somehow look 15-20 years younger). I think it's cool that we're hopefully getting a series with no cute widdle green babies or "Chosen One" kids. It'll be about this group of "old dogs" trying to learn new tricks.


Much like Barbara Crampton I assume Ming-na Wen is a highlander or something


https://twitter.com/MingNa/status/1429908708046213120

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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bunnyofdoom posted:

I swear to God, if Boba comes across a mind evaporator, he better not watch porn in the throne room.

I'M JUST SAYING Jefferson Starship is still touring today it's just a matter of if Filoni is bold enough to have them appear and perform in one of these Star Wars shows.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Arc Hammer posted:

Fett feels more like tribal meets medieval with some Mexican guitar in the background.

I wasn't as happy with it as I was with Mando's score but it seems appropriate for what we've seen of the character so far.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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:dukedog:

Penitent posted:

Yeah, so we don't call it Slave 1 anymore. It doesn't jive with the diversity/inclusion objectives that Disney have set out for the wider brand, mmmkay?

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-boba-fett-ship-name-not-slave1-reason/

I suspect that Boba will actually rename it the Respectful Rancor by the end of the series.

That article's bullshit because it's based on Lego toys which at least a few years ago (I think possibly even before Disney owned Star Wars) started calling all of the named character ships "Luke Skywalker's X-Wing" or whatever because it make it easier for small kids and for parents to know what ship is what.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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:dukedog:

Jose Oquendo posted:

I'm sure this is something that gets addressed. In his season 3 journey he could end up with a bigger ship but he could hang on to the starfighter for when it's needed.

Just freeze'em in carbonite and the N1 can tow them safely through space or he can jusy collect heads.






I love that they specifically bring up that the spear can block a lightsaber and then forge what we're all assuming is chainmail for Grogu. Obviously setting up Grogu ==== the sole surviving student of the Ben Solo massacre

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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:dukedog:
The sequel trilogy on the whole sucked but it could lead to adolescent Grogu + broom kid getting flown around by Lando+that ex trooper for adventures.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Bismuth posted:

It is funny to me that TCW goes out of its way to have characters take down a big slavery empire to save a handfull of slaves, and always be very firm about slavery being bad and depict the slavers as very evil people who torture their slaves and force them to die for them and such while these same good guys are being supported by an army of expendable human slaves with obedience chips in their heads. And there was that early (I think?) ep where the villain of the ep was a clone that thought clones were being exploited/used as slaves (which they were).

Outside of TCW it was clear the jedi didnt give a gently caress about slavery from the moment qui-gon had the chance to save anakin's mom and used the force to make sure he didnt

IIRC not long after that episode there's one where Baris (?) and Asohka have a conversation where they basically talk about how they only get to be "peacekeepers" when it's politically convenient and that being peacekeepers means "kill whoever the Republic points us at" rather than fighting injustice overall.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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:dukedog:

Burning_Monk posted:

We are getting Plo Koon aren't we?

I can feel it in my bones Shand is going to hire some other bounty hunter muscle leading into THE BOOK OF DENGAR

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Dragonstoned posted:

Now Grogu, do you want this smelly old shirt or this TOTALLY AWESOME LASER SWORD? Hmm? HMMMMMMM?

He totally picked neither and is going to pull a Javik and just force bounce some Pykes into the twin suns, if he chise one or the other or both Luke would say he's not ready

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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I'm glad they did it by having it be a real person in makeup/etc. instead of an all CG reproduction of it, it looks way cooler and I loved the voice. Plus look how much later this is from his appearance in Bad Batch, even if Duros live for a long time someone's complexion and voice changing over 30 years is whatever.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Max Rebo's level 3 max in Masters of Teräs Käsi



chitoryu12 posted:

A dev for 1313 just leaked gameplay footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehW4OMiEr4

I saw some footage of this at a gamestop conference (I think I even still have some 1313 swag now) a long time ago and it didn't really grab me because like folks have observed here, basically Uncharted but reskinned to be Star Wars I'm sure would be fun but it didn't get me super hyped up. And they were really emphasizing how it was going to be ***dark and gritty*** very street level Star Wars like we've never seen before and like, whatever. Don't worry you get to play as Boba Fett.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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BrianWilly posted:

Luke hates Tttttooene so much he'd rather loan his car to a toddler to go there alone instead of setting foot there,

And then Rey will consign him and his sister's ghosts to haunt it forever

Anakin's force ghost was going to appear there too but he doesn't like sand.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Doctor Spaceman posted:

A lot of not great action in an action-heavy finale, especially relating to the giant underwhelming droids.

Also felt like there was a big of a scale mismatch between the giant sprawling city seen in the aerial shots and the size of the fight, especially on Boba's side.

It reminded me of the final battle in the Netflix Dark Crystal show but it was understandable there because they were already hitting the absolute no poo poo limit of what you could do with a bunch of puppets in general during it. I really disliked how the final battle in Boba Fett had all these folks that we've all seen use different kinds of weapons and abilities but everyone just, like, stands in the open and shoots blasters at each other for so long. Like, Krrrsanton realies it's possible to get through the shield but gets knocked back and doesn't communicate this instead of like, him and Mand w/ the darksaber or the Jimmy from Quadrephenia mod with the kicking leg punching through one everyone just kind of shrugs and keeps shooting at them. How far are the two Moses from each other, Fennec got on a speeder but what did she do spend the entire final battle WALKING to the mayor/Pyke leader's office? How the hell did the Gamoreans go down so easily?.


Anyway I enjoyed the shot overall and hit some good points but I really wish the script wasn't so half-baked.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Owlbear Camus posted:

Spice ruins people's lives, Fennec! They should instead be eating my aunt karens raisin casserole, without spice.

Take the black melon.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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thrawn527 posted:

What about the scene after they knock over the train? He tells that one guy that he'll be fine if they're not carrying spice, they find spice, and Fett says, "It's not looking good for you." Maybe he was just loving with him, but the implication seemed pretty clear that Fett doesn't want spice being moved through at least Tusken territory. Coupled with the Cobb Vanth scene, and the show is telling us, "Our good guys say 'spice is bad'".

I think he pretty clearly meant "if you were just dumbass folks passing through whatever but now you owe me $$$ if you want to run spice" since that's what happens right after

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Anita Dickinme posted:

Oh yeah, actually this is it. No reason to tell it but since they did I stand by my wanting a drat sequel.

Tragic missed opportunity to call the sequel Duo

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Anita Dickinme posted:

Much like big pharma and a cancer cure.

The Sith and Jedi became mortal enemies because Darth Plagueis the Wise learned how to stop people from dying

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Vinylshadow posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53IxFe5qFgM

I'm just gonna pretend this takes place after S1 of Boba's Books so that the Gamorrean guards survived their tumble off the cliff

Because falling never kills anyone in Star Wars

Falling down a pit in Star Wars canonically grants the fallee incredible powers

Darth Maul - falls down a pit on Naboo, gets sick cyber-legs and runs a big crime syndicate

Luke - falls down the pit in Cloud City, can now telepathically speak to people

Palpatine - falls down the pit in the Death Star II, gains a massive army of Sith people and like 10,000 star destroyers that each have a death star laser

Gamorrean Guards - falls down a pit in Book of Boba Fett, will probably be running their own super powerful crime syndicate once season 2 happens



In general, the Gammorean guards, like, I get killing them off even if I'm not a fan of that, but how in the gently caress did they live for so long with how easy they went down lmao

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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LividLiquid posted:

What would be gained by showing a bunch of people listen to the radio that wasn't accomplished by telling us that happened?

It really wasn't necessary for the film. Starting In Media Res is Star Wars' whole thing.

Like, sure, I'd be interested to hear this message too, but the film didn't need it even slightly. How it affected Kylo is what's actually important to the story being told and that's the first thing we see.

I don't know why I didn't hate tRoS when everyone else did, but I maintain that the only sin that flick committed that can't be forgiven is doing Rose and Finn dirty to please the most toxic loving fanbase on the planet. And it didn't even work.

Edit: Seriously, though, you can draw a straight line from prequel fan rage through Gamergate up on through the rise of the alt right, Trump, and the rise of global fascism.

All because a movie about space wizards made for children wasn't what some dorks not very dissimilar to us wanted it to be.

The part at the beginning of Masters of the Universe where there's a bunch of different Frank Langella Skeletor holograms at every angle delivering his message of conquest was the only good part of that movie so Palpatine doing the same would have mean Rise of Skywalker having one good scene too.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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eke out posted:

when he says "your ability gave you station, but all the power in the world can't mask the stench [of the gutter] beneath" i certainly read it as "okay you're very strong but gently caress you commoner you're nothing"

Palpatine had to change Anakin's name to Vader because Sith folks would never obey a former nobody slave.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Xenomrph posted:

the more I think about the Boba Fett show the less I like it and the direction it took with the character.

I wanted Boba Fett: Badass Bounty Hunter taking down dangerous targets for the highest bidder. Like that’s how the Legends stories handled it, he gets out of the Sarlacc and gets back to work.

Instead he spends half a decade “finding himself” with the sand people and decides to essentially go straight for the benefit of a city he has had literally no prior connection to whatsoever.

The show turned him into some nobody that the other characters had barely heard of or gave a poo poo about, in the old Legends stuff people full on feared his name and his armor and what he was capable of, when you learned Boba Fett was on your rear end you knew you had a problem and when you saw his armor you knew it was Serious Business. Like, in the Empire Strikes Back, Darth loving Vader himself singles him out and tells him not to disintegrate people, and later in the movie Boba Fett makes demands to the same Darth Vader and he just takes it.

Boba Fett, a character who initially became popular before the movie even came out because his armor looked loving rad as hell, a character people thought was cool just because he looked cool, couldn’t keep his helmet on for more than 5 minutes at a time in the show. A character literally known for his helmet, couldn’t keep the helmet on. There’s a bit in one of the Legends comics where Dengar asks Boba Fett why he doesn’t show his face, and Fett just turns to him and points to the helmet and says “this IS my face”. It perfectly encapsulated how different Boba was from his father - Jango had nuance and humanity and was able to take the helmet off and be a father, Boba was single-minded about the job and his reputation 100% around the clock, no exceptions.

When the post-credits stinger for Mando season 2 announced the Boba Fett show I was pretty hyped because I figured it would be Boba Fett, suited up and kicking rear end, especially after what we saw of him in Mando season 2.

Nope.

And then when the show establishes that he wants to be a crime lord I was like “oh poo poo, crime syndicates, Black Sun, Crimson Dawn, Xizor, Qi’ra, here we go”.

Nope.

And then Krrsantan shows up and I’m like, “oh poo poo, known associate of Doctor Aphra, here we go”.

Nope.

Sidelining the title character for a full third of the season was stupid. It’s not even that the Mando stuff was bad, it just shouldn’t have derailed the Boba Fett show. That show needed all of the Boba it could get to keep my interest, removing him entirely just shows a lack of confidence in the character.

I absolutely do not care that the Boba Fett show apparently started life as Mando season 3 and then they reworked it, if they were going to make a Boba Fett show about Boba Fett then they should have committed to it and saved the Mando stuff for his show. This would be like if Captain America: The Winter Soldier had had Captain America vanish for 45 straight minutes while the plot sidetracks to some unrelated Thor adventure or something.

What a waste of a cool character. Whatever, I’ll just go re-read my old Boba Fett comics or something.

Anyway, I’ll have a #3, to go, with large fries and a Sprite.

Massive agree on all of this. For the first half of the show I was sort of hopeful because it seemed like Boba's actions (and lack of actions) were going to make sense towards the end like there was some more ruthless/whatever endgame he was setting up. And the slow realization that, no, they took this potentially rad setup and shat it out as fast as possible even by Disney standards (there's an interview where Rodriguez mentioned them having him go from shooting to having edited/finished scenes in the same day and it shows) setting in made it really disappointing. And then after all that disjointed nothing-ness of him just stumbling around we get to the very end and he's like...eh, this life isn't for us, like what? There were so many stupidly busted things about that show. It felt like maybe they had some other story in mind but then Disney was like "no wait we can't have Boba hurting people or being a bad guy!" or something so they had nothing for him to do but amble around and be incredibly stupid.



Anita Dickinme posted:

One thing that kinda confused me was how did inquisitor lady know Vader is Anakin but she didn’t know Owen was his step-brother? Maybe it’s not something that would come up but I feel like if Vader told her he was Anakin he would tell her that info when they told him they were going to Tatooine.

Unless she isn’t supposed to know Vader is Anakin then the point is moot. We’ll find out.


Arc Hammer posted:

I mean this show also wants us to believe that Obi Wan didn't know Vader was alive, despite him being the top enforcer of Imperial rule. Making the Inquisitors publicly known even in the Outer Rim makes it a stretch that Ben didn't know Vader was still around.

I think some other posters had pointed it out, I'm not familiar with Rebels at all but I'm starting to agree with them that a lot of the timeline/continuity issues with this would completely vanish if they just didn't have the Inquisitors in the show at all.

They painted themselves into a corner with this because I get not wanting to overkill Vader appearances. So you have to have these sad Vader wannabes around during this era instead of Vader himself. Which creates all of these weird problems of who knows what about who.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 30, 2022

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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ninjahedgehog posted:

Obi-Wan already knew Anakin and Vader were the same person, he just thought he'd burned to death in Mustafar. I guess Vader isn't as famous as I thought though, or Tatooine is such a backwater they don't know how the #2 guy in the entire Empire is


Yeah it's not really reconcilable. IIRC Vader doesn't have like an official rank that matters at all in the imperia navy's hierarchy, or whatever, like he is just like literally the Emperor's #2 guy like you say. To me that even more would make him infamous even just on the level of like general "oh yeah the empire was having trouble doing x/y/z but then this badass black-armored cyborg showed up and steamrolled everyone with a lightsaber and used the force to bend a spaceship in half what in the holy gently caress?" gossip level. Like even people on Tatooine must have heard some stories at least.



I did get the implication in Rogue One though, it seemed like Vader doesn't actually get out much? Like he's just in his castle in a bacta tank until Palpatine fucks up too much and he sends Vader out to clean up his mess? Like if he didn't sense that that was Luke during the Death Star run would he have just gone back to his castle to hibernate/heal up again instead of continuing that?

In older stuff Vader hunts down the Jedi but if we go by just the live action movies and shows it seems like Vader isn't actually active that much.


Sort of like Book of Boba Fett's issues it doesn't work unless Vader completely ceases to exist in people's minds when he's not on screen lol


But again like the timelines feels weird, decades later sure, Obi-Wan and few people in general would know Vader even exists because it's not like he's on the front lines or a commissioned officer. But this is just ten years after Revenge of the Sith. The Jedi are actively being hunted down and murked by Vader and these inquisitor folks - people at this time definitely know who Darth Vader is.

But again I think we're seeing a sort of retcon where outside of some really specific incidences Vader isn't actually even outside of his bacta tank much until Rogue One/the OT.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 16:08 on May 30, 2022

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Kid Leia owns except for the chase scenes.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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That DICK! posted:

It tells me there’s nothing going on in obi wans head beyond what we see and are told, he’s just reacting to stuff, which was a huge problem with boba fett

To redeem this they should also have a scene where Obi-Wan picks up a LEP droid and says "Do you know who I am? IIII am OBI-waaan." and the droid shut itself down in terror.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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th3t00t posted:

Why are they having an 8 year old play a 10 year old, who is characterized more like a 15+ year old? It's so unbelievable for such a little kid to be so savvy. Pretty odd for to cast a child actor too young for the part. It's normally a 25 year old playing a 12 year old. It was comical how slow she was running yet managed to evade everyone.

Kenobi's nihilism, self loathing and depression is entirely relatable given what happened.

Without knowing anything about the casting I immediately recognized Rupert Friend as the grand inquisitor. (I was like "is that Peter loving Quinn?")

I think it's a given that they're going to do some kind of Young Leia Adventures spinoff show if people like her in this.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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BIG HEADLINE posted:

Honestly the thing that still burns my rear end the most about the sequels is that it was much better storytelling that Rey wasn't "sired" from a canonical bloodline and was simply gifted in the Force because ~fate~.

That coupled with Force-sensitives just being littered throughout the galaxy was the best aspect of Rion's contribution. Give me a short vignette about the kid with the broom.

But probably because of all of this poo poo, NOOOO, Rey has to be a Palpatine because THAT explains everything. See, you can stop stalking Daisy Ridley now, she got her Force powers because Palpatine got busy off-screen!

The best part was of that everyone was like wow Palpatine canonically fucks but this is Disney we're talking about so later on in a comic or book or whatever later on they specified that Palpatine did cloning stuff and so that he specifically DID NOT gently caress. Which is so dumb because c'mon a hyper-powerful senator travelling the galaxy there's no way this guy wasn't blasting his sith seed constantly

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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teagone posted:

Pretty impressed by how this show literally made me feel nothing during the Obi-Wan/Vader fight. Zero fanfare. No style. How was it so anticlimatic? Boringly shot/paced. Just...I'm at a loss for words lol.

Basically came here to post this. Like even if the whole show were to be almost all bad, how do allow THAT to be a fuckup? I mean I guess they had to make it as unmemorable as possible to explain the lack of Obi-Wan mentioning this meetup during A New Hope and also Obi-Wan somehow being able to go back to Tatooine to watch over Luke for the next 20 years. Like I'm very "excited" to see why Vader suddenly decides to just, uh, NOT pursue Obi-Wan anymore.

Like for real what in the hell is going on with that scene because you almost have to be like intentionally trying to make it bad.


Rappaport posted:

Ben just trusting the random British Empire officer with Leia was bad enough, but then the 10-year-old convinces her to let Leia go on alone because she has to save Leia's not-space-daddy? What the gently caress

Yeah the writing in this show is occasionally uh lmao

The non-action moments are good though, I liked the first half of this episode of Obi-Wan and Kid Leia chatting with each other and Obi-Wan being a dumbass openly talking about this secret stuff in the back of the mole guy's truck and slipping up and stuff.

I don't get the disparity of like, when are there enough opposition that you just murk them all vs. when are there enough opposition that you surrender? It feels completely random even within this one episode.


Rahul posted:

The fight was supposed to suck - Obi-Wan is a broken man at this point who does not even remotely have his poo poo together. I agree though that his escape at the end is kind of BS unless it gets revealed that Vader purposely lets him go for uhh... reasons, I guess?
Teleporting Reva was definitely weird.

Got mixed feelings about the show as a whole. It's got issues, but Ewan's performance as PTSD Obi-Wan is pretty interesting to watch. Definitely think it's beating BoBF so far at least, not that's a very high bar mind you.

edit: So as of this episode, they've pretty much explicitly broken continuity with ANH now, right?

Hey last week everyone said they wanted LESS Reva parkour so teleporting is fine by me :D

I do agree this is better than Book of Boba Fett. Like book of Boba Fett though I'm already thinking Vader toyed with/let Obi-Wan go for a long term reason in this case, he knows that now that Obi-Wan is in play that his dumbassness will make it easy for Vader to hunt down and obliterate the rest of the Jedi via this underground railroad network or whatever but I'm ready like with Boba Fett to be disappointed as the rest of the episodes reveal that no, the show's writing is just bad.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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That DICK! posted:

haha she's probably gonna [stroking out trying to remember a single memorable thing padme said or did to reference beyond the body double thing] uuuuah thunderous applause haha

i haven'tWORKEDin a YE HEAR!

Mirotic posted:

The inconsistency of the writing quality is what is frustrating me the most. I don't mind the attempt at horror in the fight scene, but it could have been written better.

Because when it's good, it's really pretty good (sold not in the least by Kid Leia + Ewan McGregor doing some fine acting). But when it's not, hoo boy.

Yeah it's a shame. I don't really get it either like, it's Disney, they literally have Disney money, no need to rush the stuff this badly.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Anita Dickinme posted:

I figured he always had two. He just lost the first one after fighting Mace and used his second one against Yoda.

Mace was the greatest lightsaber duelist. Yoda was the most powerful force user. Lightsabers, Mace wins. Force, Yoda wins.

Yeah while obviously Sidious twists the situation as soon as he can when Anakin finally shows up Mace pretty clearly kicked Palpatine's rear end and was going to kill him by reflecting his own lightning onto him.

Regarding him having two sabers, that reminds me in the mobile games they make the Darth Sidious version of the character actually does wield two lightsabers. is that a thing Sidious does in EU stuff or was that an invention of the game?



Kaedric posted:

Look, I know us internet nerds have had a long time to get used to the idea of yoda being a lightning fast sonic blur bouncing off the goddamn walls, so now it's 'cool', but this poo poo was dumb as gently caress when it first happened.

I have a distinct memory of going to the sold out theater when the PT first came out, and specifically that dooku/yoda scene came up. Ok cool they're throwing things at each other, p neat. Then the sabers come out. A cheer going up from the audience? Gasps of surprise? No. The entire audience bursts out laughing, and it just gets uproarious when yoda starts doin his flippy poo poo. It was so goddamn dumb

I just remember that they advertised the home release of episode II with this lmao:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6d1dR2170o





No Mods No Masters posted:

I think people looked up the editors involved in this and they had done perfectly competent work before. I assume they just had no coverage at all, management meddling severely, an insane time restriction, or some combo

Speaking of coverage, how does filming with the holo-whatever work? Like are there just some limits to how much coverage you can get so you just need to really plan it out ahead of time? Are they just making so many Star Wars shows at once now that people just don't have a lot of time to film with it or something so they just get whatever footage they can?

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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ghostwritingduck posted:

Which for a few moments was awesome. The tease of an uneasy alliance between Rey and Kylo was quite exciting, and then dumped two minutes later. Kylo should have called the First Order off as a show of good faith and Rey should have stayed. They’d both be convinced the other could turn.

I was so incredibly hype for something like this as Snoke died and that fight played out but of course by the end of the scene we know nothing is actually going to change.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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babypolis posted:

earlier on we saw reva being chastised over and over again for being too brutal in her tactics. then vader shows up and hes doing all the same poo poo x10. it makes no sense that reva is eating poo poo for doing all the stuff her boss does. if anything the other inquisitors should have been punished for being too lenient.

It's different when Vader does it because he's in charge.


But it also leads back to how having inquisitors is just dumb in general and will always on some level not work. Like Reva gets criticized for being too brutal in her tactics? Look at their fuckin' outfits and gear! They showed the helicopter lightsaber in live action!

It's the dumbest thing in the galaxy that just ten years before new hope there's a whole water planet tower of these folks flying around the galaxy steamrolling regular folks to the point where even a random people on a podunk planet like Tatooine know "oh yeah those are inquisitors, former Jedi who now hunt down the Jedi for Darth Vader" or whatever.


Like when you hear about the Jedi were wiped out I figured it went down basically like it did in Revenge of the Sith. Order 66 happens so at that point in time ANY Jedi is just going to get murked on site because it's still a clone army for awhile. And after Bad Batch stuff is happening and we see them transitioning back to recruits and conscription or whatever then yeah Vader probably has a bunch of informants around low key following rumors of some weird person doing magic to see if they're the real deal or not. I would have never interpretated the process as their being like an entire faction of force using people out in the open doing this stuff.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Butterfly Valley posted:

Screen crush made the point that every episode of this series has mirrored the respective film of the same number and yeah its really obvious now I think about it.

Episode 1: Tatooine, abducted royalty
Episode 2: Running around on the seedy underworld of a neon city planet
Episode 3: Obi Wan and Anakin confronting each other
Episode 4: Heist to rescue Leia from Imperial base ending with them being tracked

Episode 5: After seeing a force ghost Obi-Wan ditches his new rebel friends after Leia is safe to finally commune with Qui-Gon to get more training but cuts it short because he has a vision of Reva tracking down the runaway Jedi so he leaves to help and but runs into Vader instead and cuts off his hand

Episode 6: Slave Obi-Wan bikini

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:

Episode V: Imperials attack a Rebel base with AT-ATs. Obi-Wan travels to Dagobah to visit Yoda who tells him he is not ready to confront Vader yet and that if he rushes off to face him he'll risk everything. Then he ends up seeing the Force ghost of his old master and they have a tense conversation about stuff he told him while he was alive.

"Correct, and now there's just you and Yoda, and Vader and Palpatine. So you see, what I told you about Anakin brining balance to the force was true, from a certain point of view." -Qui-Gon Jin this Wednesday

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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nine-gear crow posted:

There's probably unused takes of Ian calling her every possible version of what they had in mind from various days of shooting. "My granddaughter..." "Kenobi's daughter..." "Skywalker's daughter..." "Rey Solana..." "...Who are you? :confused:"

Still should have ended the movie with her saying "Rey....Palpatine" and then freeze frame on her with yellow Sith eyes like the end of Thriller.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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galenanorth posted:

I suspect that they're going to make her switch sides, and because of that they didn't want to show her doing anything too evil like Vader dragging villagers by the neck while force choking them, because if she returns as an ally in the second season they're worried in the long-run it implies an endorsement of that behavior

Jason Statham murdered Han and no one gave a poo poo later on.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Jabronie posted:

It'd be pretty funny to see Imperial recruitment ads that employ identity politics like the CIA agents with anxiety disorders. If they wanted to keep up with evil fascist allegory they'd update to line up with corporate mundane evil of today. It's Disney though so you'd be better served watching The Boys Season 3 brought to you by Amazon Prime.

Yeah like Leia's a big part of the Rebellion but the whole time Senator Bail Organa is addressing the senate like "my new bill will incrementally spread peace throughout the galaxy by improving the training pipeline for the right kind of women TIE bomber pilots" and "(receives 500,000 credits from Incom) Actually, I have a list of 500 expert geneticists on Kamino who have reported with authority that military-enforced plasmafracking is GOOD for the environment of Kashyyyk!"

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Neo Rasa
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Big Mean Jerk posted:

I’m bored at work and I keep thinking how much better this could have been as a movie, like it was originally intended.

Act 1:
- Attack on the Temple flashback, but this time make it directly obvious Reva was one of those younglings and blames Obi-Wan for a) not being there and b) because Anakin was his Padawan. Holding off on that reveal makes her seem like an idiot cartoon without proper motivation. Have Vader take advantage of her hate for Kenobi and use her as a tool for hunting him.
- Cut to sad sack Obi-Wan doing his thing on Tatooine, arguing with Owen, etc. but amp up the PTSD aspect
- Benny Safdie Jedi comes to Obi-wan for help, Obi-Wan refuses out of guilt over Anakin etc.
- ONLY Reva comes to Tatooine, feels Obi-Wan, kills Safdie to draw him out. You don’t need the other Inquisitors or Reva’s desire to be the Grand Inquisitor. She has more purpose if she’s purely motivated by revenge and not ambition as well, plus you spend more time building HER up as a threat instead of second-stringer on a clown squad.
- Reva goes to kidnap Leia herself because she knows Bail is an associate, takes her to some planet off the books because she hasn’t thought the plan through all the way. Make her more reckless and impulsive and driven by emotion, don’t do this 4-d chess behind Vader’s and the other Inquisitors’ back nonsense.
- Bail asks Kenobi for help, refusal of the call, etc. Come up with some other motivation than seeing a rando Jedi dead for him to finally help, maybe Owen guilts him over only protecting himself and his insecurities instead of both twins or whatever. Give Edgerton more than one loving scene.

Act 2:
- Introduce Indira Varma earlier to strengthen her relationship with Kenobi, maybe he sees a bit of Satine or Padme in her, whatever. Something to make that relationship have actual weight later. If you still want her to be a double agent Imp, maybe have them only communicate over comms at first. Establish The Path of Jedi refugees earlier and her involvement with it.
- Still have Kumail’s character just because I like that concept, but toss the rest of the not-rebels. Have him help squirrel Leia away during the prison break (“Now’s your chance to act like a real Jedi”).
- Vader, because he’s Vader, sees Reva going off-book and knows it’s because of her hatred for Kenobi, shows up on the planet without telling her. They hunt him down at the same time and Kenobi stalls so Leia can escape etc.
- Vader and Kenobi have their duel, but Vader is clearly toying with him just to make it last longer. Have this piss Reva off and she does some something impulsively (“What are you doing!? Kill him NOW!”), poo poo blows up in their faces and this is what allows Kenobi to escape, albeit hosed up physically and mentally now with the knowledge that Anakin lived and became Vader.

Act 3 (some bits spoilered since they’re building off supposed finale leaks):
- Parallel Vader and Kenobi both healing in bacta after the fight, do the flashback here as they’re both thinking of instances where they sparred each other to gain an upper hand.
- Reva gets impatient with Vader, puzzles out the existence of Luke and sets off for Tatooine.
- Kenobi knows Vader won’t stop, sets out to leave for Mustafar/Fortress Inquisitorious/wherever on his own, Indira decides to help him with codes/access.
- Second Kenobi/Vader duel, Indira sacrifices herself for Kenobi somehow, Kenobi has Vader defeated but before the killing blow feels something is wrong with Luke. Once again can’t bring himself to kill Vader/Anakin, leaves for Tatooine.
- Reva holds Luke and the Larses hostage waiting for Kenobi, he shows up, maybe they duel half-heartedly, Kenobi wins her over with compassion and helps her see the true enemy is Vader, Luke is how Vader will lose, etc. Puts his saber away, trusts her to do the right thing. She does and reports back to Vader, telling him Kenobi is dead. He knows she’s lying, kills her, she dies letting go of her rage knowing she did the right thing, hiding the existence of Luke and that he will defeat/redeem Vader one day.
- Kenobi goes back to the desert, maybe he and Owen have a better understanding of each other now. He watches Luke from afar again.


Obviously IANA writer or director and this is a 15 minute boredom draft, but you get the idea. I like the show but it’s frustrating because you can see all the elements of something better and they just never coalesce.

Agree 100%, honestly this fifth episode could have been part of a movie just about as is if the preceeding ones were purely setting this up instead of like episodes 2 and 3 just being pointless stupidly executed poo poo. It's like the took what the movie was going to be and it got busted by needing to be 6 episodes instead of two hours with way too many writers.

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