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Hyrax Attack! posted:I liked Rebels, Bad Batch was alright but the characters seemed too simple and predictable. This guy wears glasses, hacks stuff, speaks like a professor and his name is Tech. This big guy is dumb and can't stop yelling about destroying things, he's Wrecker. The guy with a crosshair scar on his eye is the sniper, and he's... Crosshair and is clearly evil from minute one, somehow him turning on the team is treated as a dramatic reveal. What was up with him having a "loyalty meter" that could be increased? Why would that not always be maxed out? I agree. I was actually waiting for a twist at the end where Crosshair would turn on the stormtroopers and escape with the team. It felt they were setting him up as the villain a bit too heavy handedly in the early episode and I thought they were going for something along the lines of "I absolutely hate this but because of you Tarkin is going to have us all killed so I have no choice but to escape with you guys, also you are still my clone bros". .
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Vinylshadow posted:
... which of these came first: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0110.html
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I think we can all agree it will be really dumb and lazy if Omega's deal is that she's a force-sensitive clone.
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May 9, 2021 09:12
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Larryb posted:Out of curiosity, how did the show manage to get revived after that? We might never know for sure, but there's clearly a point where Disney shut down anything that might take attention away from the sequel trilogy and new films, and then another point where they reverse ferreted on realising that the sequels were not going to have any lasting cultural impact at all.
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May 9, 2021 18:07
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If you can't accept that good star wars involves a character who sees the world through the eyes of the children that the show is at least in part made for then you will find yourself complaining about it for a long time.
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May 9, 2021 20:43
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’d be down for a Q’ira/Maul/whatever show. I’m not sure I’d say I liked Solo, but I didn’t think it was anywhere near as bad as the reviews made it out to be and the cast was fun. Eh, the problem with doing anything with Maul is that Rebels brought his arc to a pretty satisfying end. (Yes I know and agree with 'gently caress continuity', but Rebels did it well and didn't leave much left to do with the character). I remember watching Solo with a friend and our reactions were both 'that wasn't bad, but if it wasn't a Star Wars film I'm not sure I would have bothered to see it'.
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May 10, 2021 10:41
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Thrawn dies because he never considers that the race of hyper suspicious commando-spy-assassins will ever stop to ask what he's putting into their soil.
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May 17, 2021 22:48
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Isn’t the Empire’s speciesism only a Legends thing now? I don’t think it survived until the new canon, but I also haven’t read all the new Thrawn novels. Depends what medium you are looking at and how much Disney are trying to sell you a videogame, but it is very much right there in the original trilogy. The rebellion is diverse in skin colour, gender, and where costume budgets allow, species. The Empire is exclusively white men with English accents.
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May 18, 2021 08:45
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It's not like Cara Dune had more than 30 seconds of backstory that can't be replicated in an entirely new character who is a jaded veteran from the war with no life to return to.
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May 21, 2021 16:19
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Cage Kicker posted:I would imagine One of the big points eventually will be Omega saving the team and finding her niche as a full member -speculation but spoiled in case true I think it's more likely to be a Last of Us style deal. Omega is important for some reason but the dilemma is whether she has to grow into being whatever the Kaminoans wanted her to be or whether she gets to have a normal life. If its the latter then the finale is going to be the Bad Batch sacrificing themselves in some heroic suicide mission manner to let her break free from the plot. This probably also arcs back to killing off the Kaminoans and blowing up their cloning facilities.
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May 23, 2021 16:06
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16 episodes in this season. I'm expecting Crosshair to show up in this next episode or the one after, and then another after a short gap, and then at some point in the final four episodes they'll start a tight arc for the finale where he'll feature loads. I dont think it would have worked at all for him to be 90's cartoon style chasing the heros every week and just failing to catch them.
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Jun 6, 2021 20:05
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Standing quite firm on my prediction from last week that 'crosshair shows up next episode or episode after'.
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Jun 15, 2021 12:59
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Larryb posted:Ah, so we’re about halfway through now. I think they almost certainly can wrap this up. 8 episodes is enough to rescue omega, find out what the secret behind her is, and set her on her way; with a finale where the batch is reunited with crosshair, and either they all die having secured omega's safety or go off into quiet retirement. I've noted that the show has been very careful to point out that the batch are motivated by looking after Omega rather than fighting the Empire or trying to restore the Republic - their arc does not take them into a greater story of being part of the rebellion.
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Jun 20, 2021 11:51
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I'm interpreting contingency plan as 'our insurance so that Palpatine doesn't have us murdered like he has everyone else in this galaxy wide conspiracy to have a war'. That doesn't necessarily imply that things end really badly for them, but it seems like the most likely outcome.
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Jun 21, 2021 12:44
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Bismuth posted:I dont think this is really a spoiler because I had this gripe during TCW too but I'll spoiler anyway since its come up again The show also wants you to believe in a magical energy field called the force. Is it so difficult to accept that cloning just works this way in the Star Wars universe?
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Jun 25, 2021 09:30
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Cage Kicker posted:My take on Omega. They made a big deal of her being a pure "generation 1" clone which makes me think you can only clone from a donor that's alive and present. Jango is dead, Boba is gone, so they would need Omega to restart the clones' genetic lineage from pure line. Arguably the reason the Bad Batch exists is because there are abnormalities caused by cloning a clone over and over. Also, IIRC, the earlier generations were more robust and capable? Please fact check me on any of this. The Kaminos literally explain this in the episode.
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Jun 25, 2021 21:50
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It's right there in the opening on Raiders that Indy struggles with... 'issues' relating to his younger students.
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Jul 14, 2021 14:45
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It's been a while since it was a story point but one of the arcs this show has hinted it'll wrap up is 'the Empire abandoning using clone troopers and why we never see the Kaminonans again'.
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Jul 18, 2021 19:02
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Larryb posted:I’m honestly surprised the man hasn’t been signed on to direct and/or write a full movie yet He's only done one live action thing as director and that's an episode of the Mandalorian (and not a great one). He's clearly very useful as a central touchtone everyone can reach for to understand 'what is Star Wars' but for the same reason Lucas shouldn't be given unfettered creative control of script, production and direction, Filoni probably is best within his lane.
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Aug 5, 2021 21:49
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's worse with Clone Troopers, since they're all CT-####, so there's an upper limit of 11,000 when they're ordered in batches of millions. And there's multiple scenes of somebody just putting in a Clone's 4 digit number into a database and getting all that clone's information with no need for extra address information. Star Wars has more than 10 digits, we just never see the extra ones. For reasons.
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Aug 12, 2021 09:19
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I thought the allusions to a plan at the start of the season implied something deeper and more significant to the Kaminoans than 'we can make more Jango clones'.
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Aug 13, 2021 16:01
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Tech and especially Echo felt really underutilized this season. They each had a couple moments, but I kept waiting for them to get a “highlight” episode like Hunter or Wrecker and it just never happened. Tech I kinda get, he’s just the pilot and quip-delivery guy, but Echo seemed like he had a lot of potential that just went untapped. He’s a guy with a lot of trauma and experience and you’ve put him in a squad full of former soldiers with trauma of their own, trying to find their place in the galaxy and... he’s just there. He functions as their droid for most of the season and that’s pretty much it. Ironically I think this feels a bit like the result of the removal of crosshair from the group dynamic. Without him every conversation in the squad just fast tracks to 'obviously we do whatever hunter decides'. With crosshair advocating an alternative move to what hunter wants then you can develop more conversations where the other members of the squad move between them based on their personal biases.
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Aug 13, 2021 19:47
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Classic star wars story where the droid saves everyone multiple times and everyone immediately forgets.
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He didn't sue Disney and they'll obviously never say it but they have to know the sequel trilogy was a disaster so there probably aren't hard feelings about him saying so (long after it isn't commercially impactful).
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Aug 18, 2021 22:29
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Vinylshadow posted:The slowly-mounting tension/dread in Shattered leading up to Order 66 was some of the best in Star Wars history Oh yeah it was a fantastic execution of 'everyone knows what is about to happen and that the main characters will survive and that this is the end of the show, so we are going to theme this like it's a funeral'.
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Sep 29, 2021 15:23
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I think part of the problem is that back when the original films were made the pace of cinema let you have those moments of 'all wings form up and report in' where you would build tension as the immediate prelude to a battle sequence. Then Michael Bay happened and Hollywood decided that pacing is for suckers and if it's an action sequence then it has to be full speed all of the time.
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I thought it was... fine, and agree with the criticisms already posted. I'm not sure that 'cheap' is the right word to describe it. It is a show that only exists because The Mandalorian was so incredibly popular, so every element about it felt like a slightly hollow echo of the much better show we were all hoping it would equal. I think that echoing of The Mandalorian is why it feels cheap. I also feel like we are about to see an entire season that does the 'stories across two different timelines where the conclusion of the earlier timeline reveals how the hero gets out of their predicament at the climax of the later timeline' thing and that poo poo is almost always lazy and bad.
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I think we can all agree they're going to have to pull off a really impressive agenda-reveal after that pilot and the later in the season it gets the more impressive it is going to have to be.
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Dec 29, 2021 22:16
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I object to watching the slowest car chase ever filmed. Also I too have no idea what they are doing with this. This Boba Fett character who emerged from the sarlaac pit bears no resemblance to the Boba Fett we saw in the prequel trilogy and the OT. The flashbacks take place on the other end of Boba's appearance in The Mandalorian where his motivation was 'I want my armour back'. He doesn't appear to be on any kind of character journey, and to the extend he is on a mission it appears to be 'be a nice crime boss' which doesn't track with anything we know about this character. Fennec is equally a non-character. I don't know whether they keep coming back to water as a useful measure of poverty/wealth or whether the show telling us that Tatooine used to be covered in oceans is the show slowly gearing up to pull some STAR WARS story magic on us.
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Jan 12, 2022 22:33
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:That episode... just wasn't very good. I wish the conflict with the Hutts was allowed another episode or two to breathe before the reveal that they were set up. As it is, it just felt like the show immediately threw out the interesting setup from the previous episode, while also weirdly repeating the same beat (walk to see the Mayor, find out who's really behind things, etc etc). Add to that the slow paced, boring chase scene, and the few good elements (Wookie fight, Rancor) aren't enough to elevate it above "kinda crap". Yeah the problem isn't that this is a story for children, the problem is that this feels like a DnD adventure where the DM did about 30 minutes prep for the setting and is panicing and making things up from session to session.
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Jan 13, 2022 10:27
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I'll definitely be up for it if the joke of the series is that every episode peels a layer off an infinite onion of 'the real villain is...'
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I think this review get is: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/th...u44gaIrIINuyaFo The arc of the story is a bit obvious, but the starting point and the 'why are you telling this story' are not. The single location of Mos Espa can't really sustain a Star Wars story, which is why the rotating cast of villains cycling in feels off. The way the story has been broken across the first three episodes is unnecessarily off-beat.
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You can't be up to episode 4 of 7 and still saying 'you just need to let the show find it's stride'. We're halfway through. Even if the second half of the show turns out to be gold, the first half will still have been an odd mess.
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Jerkface posted:Spartacus Season 1 and Gods of the Arena Spartacus season 2 and 3 are great, and the show finale is absolutely incredible. The first two episodes of Season 1 are literally unwatchable though and even episode 3 is only hinting at the tone change that's about to hit you like whiplash. That is definitely a show that dives off a cliff and then somehow manages to climb back up by the skin of its teeth. You can't recommend Spartacus to someone without warning them that the opening is rough.
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Butterfly Valley posted:I didn't read any malice in the Rancor Keeper's words at all but then I know goons are routinely excellent at totally misinterpreting things in TV I thought it could go either way until the moment where Boba leaves and Trejo says "don't worry he'll be back". Thats a fourth wall line to the audience 'don't worry this guy is straight up'.
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The bacta treatments would make sense if the sarlaac injuries were shown to be causing Boba any distress or weakness in the past sequences. Anyway I kinda enjoyed this episode that was primarily focused on demonstrating that Slave One's cockpit is really badly designed. Boba needs to be talky. He wasn't talky in the 15 seconds of screen time he had in the OT, but if he's a silent guy in Mandalorian armour then he's just The Mandalorian and also actually Jango was a talky guy and if we are expanding Boba as a character then he should be a bit like Jango. They should have put Temuera in a wig and do some flashback scenes where he's Jango talking to Boba and teasing out the roots of the character that way.
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It's really weird story plotting how they showed us Boba escaping the Sarlacc pit with his armour on and getting it stripped, then him going back to the pit to get it. We know it isn't there, we also know how and when it gets it back, the sequence didn't really move the story forwards.
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Din should probably take a trip to a library and read a book or two rather than learn everything second or third hand from some fanatic. An interesting point I think someone upthread mentioned: Boba doesn't appear in this episode, but what this episode does do is establish by comparison that of the various Mandalorian survivors out there that he is the most grounded and practical. That does actually move his story forwards a little, and might be important if they are bringing everyone back together for Mando S3.
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Jan 26, 2022 23:35
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Show kinda skirting around 'hey remember when I told you the Jedi were the enemies of our people? Actually the cultural artifact that defines our leadership was made by a Mandalorian Jedi who ruled Mandalore for a bit and they were great' issue.
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Penitent posted:I feel like the same people that decided to add the Vader hallway smash to the end of Rogue One are the ones that wanted this scene. They did all of this build up with the killbots only to have our main characters sit in a room and watch grainy parking lot CCTV footage of Luke's stunt double hacking them apart and it felt like it went on for ten minutes. The scene is entirely fan service but... Star Wars begins with an attempt to pay homage to schockly old cinema serials while reinventing the Story of King Arthur etc etc for the modern age. It's this wonderful blend of layers of reference and fan service and originality and terribly written dialogue that creates something magical. Getting that blend right is hard. The problem with TFA is there's nothing original in it. The problem with TLJ is that the original idea it tries to put on the table (let the past die) doesn't work in a franchise that exists at core to evoke old things. The Mandalorian isn't perfect but by and large it knows how to get the mix right.
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