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Howdy TVIV Star Wars thread, hope you're all well and happy, just doing a little cross-thread promotion of my write-ups of the Obi-wan series where I've been oscillating between optimistic and disappointed sometimes multiple times per episode.
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Jun 16, 2022 19:31
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I'm blind to music in films and TV generally, but the absence of classic star-wars-y bits in Obi-wan is pretty noticeable. It would have been better to go completely wild with it and do something totally different.
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Jun 18, 2022 07:57
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 Obi-wan Episode 6: A Trilogy of Reviews
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Jun 23, 2022 09:11
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Alchenar posted:This show was like when you play a sequel to a video game and they never quite explain why the protagonist has lost all their powers and just gets them all back with a few extra tree branches after they've had a bit of experience. Are there any real scenes where Obi-wan has lost his powers? He force-parachutes Leia in the second episode.
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Jun 23, 2022 11:31
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Alchenar posted:Theres the bit where he struggles to move the bolt on the table, and the first fight with Vader where he's basically helpless. Nodoze posted:He also struggled like hell to stop Leia from falling too He's out of practise, sure, and also unwilling to fight Vader, but it's less like he's lost his powers and more like he's lost his mojo.
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Jun 23, 2022 13:09
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Halloween Jack posted:Maybe this is too dorky, but the premise of the last episode was just too dumb for me. By which I mean: a battleship is chasing a little freighter, with all its forward guns concentrating on blowing the freighter to bits. And the people on the freighter are debating how they're going to get out of this for like 20 minutes. I had no idea Star Destroyers were so lovely. Hah, they totally scoped out that scene specifically to avoid this joke from a 15-year-old Family Guy episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDeZ-H8QOU Goddamn transport was bouncing all over the place from the POV of the star destroyer.
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Jun 23, 2022 14:49
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Alchenar posted:Well yeah, but there isn't really a moment in the show where he gets his majo back. Thats why its like a Jedi Knight 2 - he has to do the first level with just a blaster and then progress through the plot a bit to unlock his old force powers again. Oh yeah definitely with the similarity to a video game, I was just wondering if I'd forgotten a scene where Obi-wan tells someone he's had his force-phone-line disconnected, to which the answer is: maybe?
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Jun 23, 2022 15:21
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galenanorth posted:It's called a Star Destroyer, but we never see it destroy stars, while the Death Star destroys planets and is the size of a moon. It's a Destroyer in the Stars, a Star-Destroyer. Reva is pretty essential to the series even though they spent all of five minutes on making her scenes not suck. She's the Anakin to Vader's Kenobi, and he's not going to make the same mistakes that were made with him - and then he does. You can't explore the Kenobi-Vader relationship because it's over at this point - which is why the last episode is such a drag. It doesn't even have novelty to bring to the table in their clash. They just agree that they hate each other but have too much affection to murder each other, and go their separate ways.
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Jun 23, 2022 17:43
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I'm happy thinking that the death fake-out was entirely the plan of the grand inquisitor, whose entire character is being an overcomplicated dickhead.tsob posted:I do not think this is true. At all. Vader doesn't see her as an apprentice of any kind, and he never treats her as one. She's a subordinate in a hierarchy that he tolerates so long as she produces results, not a personal apprentice he has any investment in. Nor does her relationship to Vader say anything about Vader or his relationship with Obi-Wan by comparison/contrast. I think the first thing you said there belies the second thing. Anakin being aloof, detached, focused entirely on results is how he thinks Obi-wan should have been with him. It should have been enough to be the most powerful. This is most of episode 5, where Obi-wan duelling Anakin is explicitly paralleled with Vader duelling Reva.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:00
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Antifa Spacemarine posted:Don't worry Reva is a good guy now Obi-wan can hardly call her out in that regard.
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Jun 23, 2022 22:19
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Too bad about that lady's hands 
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Obi-wan notably disintegrates an entire boulder in this episode.Robot Style posted:Ironically, this is totally in line with one of Lucas' earlier drafts of Star Wars where Obi-Wan's hesitance to help Luke didn't come from age, but because Vader stole his j/o crystal and he was no longer able to charge his Force energy: See, giving Obi-wan the j/o crystal backstory would have brought this right back round into that late-60s spirituality bullshit that screams "star war".
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Jun 23, 2022 22:35
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I think it's inferred he's gonna go help kickstart the Rebellion with the little sect he has, but yeah, not the best character. I sense the hand of late alteration in that one guy's line "We could end this entire network of the rebellion now!"
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Jun 24, 2022 02:31
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They love each other too much to do it. They're brothers.
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Jun 24, 2022 18:00
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Have the grand inquisitor show up, rescue Vader, but decline to take on Obi-wan because he's a weedy piece of poo poo.
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Jun 25, 2022 10:12
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Ewan McGregor's server room nightmare is pretty funny. The screenrant article is probably dead on about the blue LEDs blowing out Obi-wan's face and forcing them to do all the lightsaber scenes dark and low-contrast to hide it, that seems pretty plausible. Weird that they wouldn't have spotted that in test shoots but maybe they were just that rushed.
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Jun 25, 2022 20:02
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That would have absolutely slapped.
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Jun 25, 2022 21:13
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There are very few memorable lines because by and large they refrained from any character ever talking to each other about anything other than the immediate scene they were in or vague platitudes about the future.
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Jun 26, 2022 20:07
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Farm Frenzy posted:stop beating around the bush with that stupid virtual set disney. get rid of the tattooine set too. film the whole thing in the woods. let star wars become the hideous canadian scifi show it was always destined to be child leia didn't outpace flea from the chillis on foot for you to forget her forest scene happened
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Jun 29, 2022 07:45
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Yeah, that had the shadow of the late edit hanging over it as well. It's not like we haven't seen Obi-wan fly a solo ship.
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Jun 29, 2022 13:20
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Vintersorg posted:#5) Battle of Scariff 
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Jun 29, 2022 16:30
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Top 5 Star Wars movie moments: 1. Han shoots first 2. Greedo shoots first 3. Han's head does a little wiggle 4. They both shoot at the same time 5. Greedo says "maclunky"
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Jun 30, 2022 19:01
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Remember when Tala says that no-one will think to check the fully automated repair pod run by the completely mute lifting robot, then seconds later stormtroopers shake the place and demand the robot tell them what it knows.
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Jul 2, 2022 08:31
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I'm still reviewing Obi-wan even though there isn't any more Obi-wan to review. I've had to go... back to the prequels! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRK-2X1R2OY
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Jul 4, 2022 19:03
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Babus Frik
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Jul 18, 2022 20:34
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It's Gallifrey, the ancestral home of the time lords.
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Jul 19, 2022 11:26
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Despite being absolutely burned by watching all of Obi-wan I was persuaded to check out Andor, which has no right to be good as it is, and I'll be writing it up like I did for Obi-wan but hopefully less bitterly and in (presumably) three-episode chunks:quote:It seems implausible that we actually see less of this future neon city than we do the party drug planet from Obi-wan given how much more vibrant and coherent it feels — in what will become a running mark of quality, there’s an extended scene of the club bouncer patting Andor down and giving him the house rules before he heads in. These small moments and subtle characters count tenfold in making the setting compelling, and Andor has them in spades: the busybody on the space transport who thinks everything’s crooked, the town bellringer who takes immense pride in his work without saying a single word, the guy who Cassian owes money to who has hired a local shark man to lightly menace him (yes, a loan-shark). These things could all easily be on the cutting room floor, and a persistent complaint I had about Obi-wan was that they invariably were, giving the impression of a world where people only ever talked when they wanted to muse about starting a rebellion. https://josh04.medium.com/ando-calrissian-andor-episodes-1-2-3-abce250ecb32
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Sep 23, 2022 12:12
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We had that though, it was Obi-wan and it was poo poo.
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Sep 25, 2022 15:29
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"I'd like to talk to you about the Jedi Knight initiative"
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Sep 26, 2022 07:45
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Jinnigan posted:did some reading and interviews on andor stuff bored at work today, here's an interesting snippet: I think you're misinterpreting it; you can still do all that stuff, but what would typically be post-production (CGI elements and sets) has to be done beforehand (so it can be displayed on the stage). So you've spent your VFX budget before shooting and you can't afford to then book a VFX studio out for a second go round drawing CG elements all over some shots that you did on a set/green screen, which would be the more traditional workflow. It is an incredible set though.
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Sep 27, 2022 22:06
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You should know by now: Andor shoots first.
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Oct 12, 2022 23:46
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Panfilo posted:I thought it funny that Imperial staff get paid in these heavy gold blocks, I'm going to have to go back to the first ep of Mandalorian to see what the Imperial creds looked like to see if it's the same currency. And rolled up in those containers I couldn't help but think they were giant rolls of poker chips. When I saw them initially it made me wonder if they were paying everyone in these dinner plate sized coins lol. There was both the visual allusion to what a gamble the whole thing was and the real-world phenomenon of making money take up more room so it's harder to transport.
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Oct 13, 2022 13:32
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Trade disputes in the senate are the backbone of good star wars, sorry.
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Oct 14, 2022 19:47
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Saved up the three new episodes of Andor and watched them all as a block, then I got to write this up for blood knife rather than my usual personal review:quote:Of all the shows to try and grasp for this ring, Andor is the one I expected the least. It’s a seeming afterthought in two directions: a prequel series to Rogue One that no one asked for, and an apparently lesser project developed in the shadow of the blockbuster, nostalgia-laden Obi-Wan and Boba Fett series. I wasn’t even originally planning on watching it, especially after finding Obi-Wan such a draining slog. But I did. And so I’m in the uncomfortable position of finding myself unable to assess it, as I did for Obi-Wan, in the context of being an inevitable footnote, a “nice try” at making Star Wars, something that certainly didn’t restart the fire and at best made an interesting pattern in the ashes—an Aladdin 2: Jafar’s Revenge to the original sextet of films’ Aladdin. https://bloodknife.com/andor-star-wars-corporate-art/
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Oct 18, 2022 17:34
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Alan Smithee posted:yeah right You know no-one ever says this and I think it all the time.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:13
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:I like how even in probably the most boring office building in the empire you can still fall off a raised walkway with no guardrails on the way to your station every day. It was the department of standards. They're the people who get to say whether or not the Death Star needs guard rails.
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Oct 19, 2022 21:18
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trilljester posted:Was that K-2SO who arrested Cassian or is that just some random Imperial security droid? Or are we going to see how Cassian reprograms one to become K-2SO? I wouldn't mind if it never came up again but - as with all the references to Rogue One in this - it was playing off how you recognise the droid wonderfully. You see the head, go "oh hey it's it's the quipbot from rogue one!", then you see the torso and think "huh, wasn't that a reprogrammed imperial droid?" then you see that it's carrying two guys.
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Oct 19, 2022 21:34
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Robot Style posted:Cleveleys, apparently: I almost certainly holidayed here as a child and have lost all memory of it.
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Oct 19, 2022 21:50
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It's not even Blackpool proper, which is a very special place:
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Oct 19, 2022 22:23
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Jerusalem posted:Put George Smiley in charge of the ISB in Season 2. Straight up just George Smiley. Have Darth Vader walk by and do a little double-take, like he feels like he SHOULD recognize that guy's face but something's not quite right. lmao Jerkface posted:George Smiley telling Lord Vader about his wife, who cant be here because she has space tennis lessons with a man named cassian lmao
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Oct 20, 2022 18:54
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I see we're at the "guy who was personally involved in every element of all of Star Wars deserves no credit for creating Star Wars" phase of the cycle
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Oct 20, 2022 22:02
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